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Old 09-22-2004, 09:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I exercise a good bit weight train,run,bike and my son has started to show an interest in exercising. I think it is because he played coach pitch baseball this summer which fueled his competive fire. Problem was that he was just 4 when the season started and we had several kids that were right on the 7 year old age limit so physically he couldn't do what they could(hit in the outfield, run fast). His mother and I nor the coaches expected him to but he sees the difference and doesn,t like it. I believe that he sees exercise as a way to catch up. I'm willing to do anything for him but at such a young age I don't want to hurt him. He is starting soccer now and really wants to play football but that is a few years away in our state. So anyway what can I do with him to help and not harm him?
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I am far, far from an expert but i can talk from experience. I am 23 now but when i was in second grade, 7 yo I think, I faced some of the same issues that your son has regarding sports. As a result of this almost every day my Dad or grandfather would practice w/me (baseball or basketball, parents never let me play organized football). My grandfather showed me how to do push ups, sit ups, and squats (with no weight), and would take me to the baseball field to practice running the bases. Doing these things helped my speed, strength, balance, and overall athletic ability. Within a couple of years I was making every all star game and traveling all star team that was possible. I went on to be all area basketball in hs and play d3 in college. Good luck with your son and I hope this helps at all. BTW at 5 dips and chin ups are impossible but it may be beneficial for a real young person to do negatives for those two exercises.
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Old 09-22-2004, 09:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Thanks! We do squats,situps,pushups and some stretching before school every morning (one set of 5 for each) and we do practice a good bit. I guess my real problem is just that I have no idea what a childs limits are. He wants to do more and more but I don't want him to cause long term problems to his body. I am sure that some of it comes from knowing that I work out hard but I wont let him. Thanks again
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Old 09-22-2004, 09:48 PM   #4 (permalink)
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"My grandfather showed me how to do push ups, sit ups, and squats (with no weight), and would take me to the baseball field to practice running the bases."

Man, thats awesome [img]smile.gif[/img] .
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Old 09-25-2004, 12:58 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Show him how to do ski squats, lunges, and different push-up variations. Also, put a broom handle or something like that across his back for squats.
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Hi guys,

Regardless of the young athletes age, I would avoid trunk flexion exercises such as situps. Please see this post for more information and references.
http://forums.jpfitness.com/cgi-bin/...;f=14;t=000081

Essentially, any time the lower back "rounds", it can be damaging to the spine. Not something you want to get a 5-year old started with.

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Thanks guys. Thanks for the link Craig
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So far the responses have all been in regards to teaching your son basic strength training exercises. Although I think that is much better than providing 'contemporary fitness-based' stimulus (you know like fitness machines or 'aerobic'classes) my question is why are we centering on things like push-ups, squats and lunges?

While I have no contention with kids performing strength exercises, their ability to do so safely is grounded in motor skill aptitude - basically, if they can move well and demonstrate appropriate technique, limited forms of this kind of training is typically fine (I say typically because volume, intensity and even minor technical deviations could become very problematic for a 5 year old).

I think a more practical way of approaching this would be to develop/create some fun movement-based games (such as an obstacle course) through which your son can gain motor skill enhancement. You can also add elements of these strength exercises into the circuit or course - not necessarily in the form of '3 sets of 5 reps', but more like movement ranges within the course itself. Remember, the key in working with kids pre-puberty is MOTOR SKILL DEVELOPMENT!

Also be very careful with basic recommendations -

"BTW at 5 dips and chin ups are impossible but it may be beneficial for a real young person to do negatives for those two exercises"... no offense intended at all 'brian b', but there is likely a much better method for this progression. Instead of dips and chins (or the eccentric versions of them) with young kids, we need to regress the exercise down to an easier level. I ALWAYS advocate that children first learning strength exercises starting with VERTICIAL forms of pushing exercises and HORIZONTAL forms of pulling exercises.

Wall push-ups are an example of vertical pushes. They become especially important if, during a regular push-up, a youngster incurs an increased lordodic curve. Remember, strength is SYSTEMIC (it involves the whole body) - if the torso isn't strong enough to maintain a healthy and safe spinal range, then move to vertical pushes instead (and ALL of the progressions that go along with them). Same with chin-ups... move to horizontal variations with younger kids. Set a squat bar or Smith Machine at a low angle and have the youngster perform a rep or two of a horizontal pull (by lying on his back underneath the bar). This exercise also has MANY variations to make it easier or harder.

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Old 09-26-2004, 05:11 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Thank you very much Brian that is exactly what I was looking for. I will defenantly use some of your ideas. Thanks again.
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To add...... oh wait he did say fun emphasize a point in Brian's insightful post MAKE IT FUN if it is not fun children will lose interest (i know you said he was showing interest but just have fun play tag games, well instead of relisting everything read the articles on top about coordination from Brian Grasso and Craig's article about youth training, both are very good and give some good examples.
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