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Old 08-22-2009, 07:56 PM   #301 (permalink)
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We have a manual machine (http://www.kitchenu.com/shop/product...opping&sku=761). You freeze the cylinder and then use it to make a small amount of whatever. Although usually when I make sorbet I just toss a little alcohol in so it doesn't freeze solid.
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Oh, that's neat that it doesn't require electricity! Looks like there's minimal churning, too, which is a plus. Mine is electric (and therefore noisy, but I can just dump the ice cream in and leave it be till its done). It does have the same pre-freeze canister type deal, though.

http://www.cuisinart.com/products/ice_cream/ice-20.html
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Feeling extremly low on physical energy today, so I'm not gonna do that 5-hour hike I planned. Yesterday was about the same, though I did do lots of walking (trying hiking boots, groceries, DIY center, concert in town). Fell asleep at the larp in the evening, but nothing was happening anyway so that was ok

Was supposed to be in a deficit yesterday, but I ate extra foods (some fries, 4 chupa chups and an extra pint of quark cheese when I got back home at 1:30).

Today I'm supposed to be in a deficit too, but I think it'll amount to maintenance - I'm not willing to lower calories, and I'm cancelling my activities. I'm sure its not the end of the world though
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Old 08-23-2009, 03:06 AM   #304 (permalink)
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Bought wood yesterday to build myself a chinup / supine row frame in the the hall, but I might be moving house in 4 months... Not sure what to do now
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If you're feeling low on energy, it's probably a good idea to go back to maintenance for a bit. I'm finding I now seem to need to bump calories up once a week to keep losing--or so it seems. It looks like it doesn't take me long to stall out anymore.

Can your frame be semipermanent? Four months is a long time--seems like it still might be worth it to set up your chin up/supine row thingummy.
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I find it very interesting that you are capable of eating that much of one food product.

Do you do it because you genuinely crave it and enjoy it? Or do you look at food more as a fuel source?

I know you have said that you really enjoy it and I know you must . . .
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I find it very interesting that you are capable of eating that much of one food product.
yeah, I wanna know two
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Old 08-24-2009, 03:29 AM   #309 (permalink)
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Hullo Cheryl!


Actually, I'm getting a bit bored with the quark. I'm thinking up ways of spicing it up though. So far I've added:

- muesli
- sugar
- honey
- nesquick
- forest fruit jam with a bit of cinnamon
- speculoos (dutch type of cookie)

Still to try:

- vanilla
- peaches and almonds
- oreo crumble

Feeling a lot better today, was ok yesterday afternoon. Think I just got a bit ill or something. Anyway, weekend turned out to be a bit of a refeed, Saturday food was slightly over maintenance, and Sunday slightly under. Not very happy with the scale though, but I'm sure its temporary.
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Old 08-24-2009, 04:12 AM   #310 (permalink)
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MrEspi's all time favourites
- treacle cookies (stroopkoeken, NOT to be mistaken with treacle waffles = stroopwafels)
- strawberry jam

But then again, MrEspi is obviously a male and has a far higher caloric need than a female, butttt you could always put in less of the jam/cookie .
Little fact: while he eats the jam WITH the quark, for the cookie he will eat the quark first and then the cookie so as it will not get soggy.

Oh, and when are you finally going to change the name of your log? You've had a ton of suggestions now ...
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Old 08-24-2009, 06:07 AM   #311 (permalink)
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I'm too lazy to get it changed :P
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Old 08-24-2009, 02:03 PM   #312 (permalink)
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Good workout today!

A. Underhand lat pulldown (5x5): 24.5 kg
Missed the last rep on the last set, I was spent.
B1. DB incline bench press (3x8): 10 kg
was afraid to drop the db's on my face again, but I badly wanted to use the 10 kg dumbells, so I ignored my fear

B2. DB peg-leg step-up (3x8): 9 kg
C1. ball jackknives (2x12): check
C2. back extension (2x12): check

Valiantly tried half an hour on the stepmachine when I was done, but I had no more energy and called it quits after 5 minutes.

Bad diet day though:

Foods: 1,514 kcal (222 kcal from a Space cookie... bad Pipser!)
Activities: 1,968 kcal
Deficit: 454 kcal

Was wondering about our lat pulldown... there's a sticker on the weightstack saying "weight for each handle" or something like that. Does that mean I'm actually pulling 49 kg? Would be closer to bodyweight, and closer to doing a chinup... and 24.5 kg doesn't really seem very much..

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I really like my progress with the lat pulldown and the bench press. It sucks that I don't progress any faster. People tell me its cuz of the deficit, which sounds plausible, but also a bit like an excuse.

I'm loath to give up the deficit cuz I'd really like to get to 60 kg before I start gaining strength, but I just realised I'm also very much afraid that it won't help shit with my strength: what if I start eating a bit over maintenance, and I won't make any strength gains?

If I DON'T stop being in a defict, I won't make any strength gains, but at least I'll have my deficit to blame instead of myself.
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It sounds to me that, yes, you're actually pulling a total of 49 kg, if it says "per handle" on the machine.

I don't think it's just an excuse to say the deficit is preventing progression. Remember what Leigh says about deficits: they're unnatural. They actually deprive the body of nutrients it wants and needs so as to force it to essentially eat itself. If your body is eating itself, it's not going to place any sort of priority on getting stronger. That would just be more work for an already limited system.

Of course it's much easier to say, but I think you just need to relax. If getting down to 60kg is your priority, then keep at it, knowing strength gains will occur when at maintenance/over maintenance. Your body will then have the nutrients it needs to build muscle.
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Old 08-25-2009, 01:44 AM   #315 (permalink)
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I've concluded the weight stack on the Lat Pulldown machine should defenitely be multiplied by 2: I need to use my bodyweight to get it down far enough to start pulling.

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..knowing strength gains will occur when at maintenance/over maintenance.
I can't convince myself that that'll happen.. I'm convinced I'll just stop losing weight and will be stuck with the same slow progress that I have now.

I think part of this is having no clue what kind of strength gains to expect - I know my progress will be nowhere near what I had the first few weeks of lifting. Secretly I'm hoping for that though, and I just know I'll be very disappointed when that doesn't happen. It *should* be a bit faster than it is now, but how much?

Basically, I'd like to know what a realistic expectation is for strength gains on a slight surplus with moderate (3x 30 mins / week) exercise.
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Yes, 24.5kg is really a very light weight (to me), so you must have really been pulling 49kg , which is much more in line with the effort you put into the exercise.
Besides, the indication already says so:

"weight for each handle"

My other gym doesn't even indicate weights on the stacks !
I only use the LPD for unilateral exercises and can just eke out 6 reps or so for 4 stacks. If not mistaken, the weight for each stack is 5kg, so that'd be 20kg total. Which isn't all that shabby for unilateral LPD.. generally you can easily do double that weight for bilateral exercises, maybe sometimes even 2.5 times as much.

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Old 08-25-2009, 07:59 AM   #318 (permalink)
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Ha! You did it! May the dairy discussions commence!
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Old 08-25-2009, 08:01 AM   #319 (permalink)
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YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

From the amount of Quark my SO eats, you'd think you & him are brother & sister
Except that he is most definitely a carnivore too...
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It always surprises me when a log name changes... and to such an interesting one as well. The cookie looked very yummy. Kind of reminds me of a Pim's - which are biscuit, raspberry or orange, then chocolate.
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Don't get me started on Pims, I'm a huge fan of those!
I can eat the whole package in 5 minutes...

I'm trying to convert all British Folk I talk with to substituting their inferior Jaffa Cakes with Pims.
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Now Jaffa cakes, I could eat a package of them in 5 minutes. I think they work because they are orange and dark chocolate, not milk. The spongy bit can be a bit dry though but a change from crunchy biscuit.
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Pims... hmm so good.
Now I'm banishing them from my mind.
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Noes poppypixy! Jaffa Cakes are horrible, compared to Pims! Seriously, once you've had Pims, you never want Jaffa Cakes any more!
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Yay for the log name change!

I've never had Pims nor Jaffa cakes. Wonder if they're even in the US...
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Not sure, it's a real British thing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaffa_CakesLOL'd when reading about the tax dispute.. never knew cakes/biscuits in the UK were exempt from taxes, but not chocolated covered cookies!
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In the UK, I think the only reason people know the difference between cakes and biscuits is because of Jaffa cakes. Sold in the biscuit aisle but officially a cake. It's all to do with what happens to them when they go stale - cakes (like Jaffa cakes) go hard, biscuits go soft.

Oh, but in the US biscuits are savoury bread rolls that get served with meals? In UK, biscuits = cookies.
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Just looked at the website - Pims look like posh Jaffa cakes. Yum! And in raspberry too!
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They taste just sooo much better! Jaffa Cakes are always stale
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Oh, but in the US biscuits are savoury bread rolls that get served with meals? In UK, biscuits = cookies.
I remembered that from my time doing study abroad in Oxford. Don't worry; I wasn't confused.

US biscuits can be sweet (though not so sweet as cake or cookies) or savory. With breakfast they're often sweet or "neutral" but served with jam/jelly, though some people do sausage/egg biscuits. With dinner they're more frequently savory, or again, neutral, but with just butter, say, rather than jam.

I'd say on the whole they're similar to scones, though often moister.

I make some gluten free pumpkin biscuits, once. They were pretty good.

Sigh. I wanna biscuit! (US kind; actually would like that more than a cookie)

ETA: Oh noes! What happened to the dairy discussion?

Um um US biscuits can be served with milk! If people like milk. I'm sure they would also taste very good with quark.

Phew!
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