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Old 06-11-2009, 03:16 AM   #91 (permalink)
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I can do that. I just make a slight modification. I do them on my back.

Cookie distributor? You mean the fat, flour and sugar kind? Do you deliver?
You crack me up! And cookie distribution was last week, now I'm all out of cookies and need a new title
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Old 06-11-2009, 08:41 AM   #92 (permalink)
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Still coughing, still studing for exams.

BF found my measuring tape lying on the bed and asked why it was there.

I'm a closet dieter so it was a bit awkward. I always feel guilty saying I'm on a diet, because there's plenty of people who have good reasons to be on a diet, whereas I'm just vain. Vanity doesn't fit at all in my self-image. It's okay to have it in my secret world of Internet Forums and blogs that people in real life don't know I have. But I would be mortified if people knew everything I eat goes into a database. Who wants to date someone who weighs their spaghetti before eating it? I sure don't.

So I explained it was to measure my hips.
"Why would you do that?" he said.
"So i know when I fit in my pants again", said.
"Why not just try on your pants?", he said.

How to explain to a guy the ultimate dejection of having your favorite pair of pants stranded, stuck, somewhere halfway up your thighs?

I didn't manage. Some Mars and Venus stuff ensued. Eventually we made up. Showed him this log, and my blog. He said "Ah, so there's your secret life". He wants to help now. Said I should do lots of cardio and eat less fat. Sent him some research. Now he wants to make me eggwhite omelettes. Not sure how to feel about that. I don't like being out.
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LOLz.. your boy friend is wonderful but poorly informed: fats is good for you and too much cardio makes you waste away the musklez (no matter if they are from Brussels or not).
He should get a forum name of his own so he can not just stalk you but also write in here and.. better yet, start his own log .. at least if he's interested in working out?
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I guess you couldn't make some flip comment about seeing if he measures up...it was on the bed and all, and probably would have shut him up...or not.

I think the average person would find what we all do here to be a bit odd or obsessive. I disagree, of course, and know without the detailed logging of my food, reading these forums for a long time, finally getting the nerve to post in them, posting a public blog (admitting my weight to myself was tougher, admitting it to the whole internet, strangely liberating). My spouse continues to be somewhat threatened by the whole thing - esp. these forums where I bare all - even worse on the RTP one where I post a daily pic of myself in a sports bra (and since it's a closed forum, maybe scarier to him because it's like the great unknown).

So, good luck with the boyfriend and his knowledge of all this - probably a good thing, an opportunity for you to educate him, another shared interest, and hopefully, he will get how beneficial it is to him that you do all this. A hot girlfriend is never a bad thing........
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He should get a forum name of his own so he can not just stalk you but also write in here and.. better yet, start his own log .. at least if he's interested in working out?
Enough to grudgingly do it two times a week, but his metabolism is so fast I'm guessing he'd have to eat double what he eats now to gain. But to me it's more important that he works out for health. He's already very hot as is, but being a smoker and all he can use a health boost.
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I guess you couldn't make some flip comment about seeing if he measures up...it was on the bed and all, and probably would have shut him up...or not.
Damm, why don't I think of clever stuff like that!

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I think the average person would find what we all do here to be a bit odd or obsessive. I disagree, of course, and know without the detailed logging of my food, reading these forums for a long time, finally getting the nerve to post in them, posting a public blog
I think it's odd, obsessive *and* beneficial. I know pips and many others feel a bit superior or at least empowered. I just feel a bit shameful. Then again, maybe I'd feel more superior if I fit in my pants by now
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It's difficult when others don't quite get it.

I have a friend who and I told her I was following this strength programme and that I go to the gym Wed, Fri and Sun and I was saying all the things I could do now (push ups etc..) and she said I was very good for doing all that but when I told her I drink protein drinks she looked at me like I'd just admitted to injecting anabolic steroids!

If I tell anyone that I regularly go to the gym, I just say I lift weights and sometimes comment on how it's me and the men in the weights area (which gets wide-eyed looks too).
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Kinda laughing about being "outed." Having no SO at the moment I don't have to worry about that, but when I first started sporting my GWF, I did get many differing reactions. From one of my Stickpeople friends, "Well, I hope it works for you!" (I think she assumed I'd be going into a deficit even though I hadn't yet stated that) to "Why do you need to track your calorie burn?" (that from an older, more portly lady.

Since at the time I was working on getting up to maintenance calories I explained that I'd been undereating and was working to make sure I ate enough for my activity. In her eyes, that was the Right Answer, even though I know perfectly well I have plenty of fat to lose.

Not too many people know I'm weighing my food either, I guess. Just immediate family, really, and honestly once I get to maintenance and do maintain for a while I hope to phase out the GWF and the weighing.

But Jules, if your BF didn't know about the forums and all that before, what did you do when he came into the room when you were online? Distract him with your feminine wiles?
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It's difficult when others don't quite get it.

I have a friend who and I told her I was following this strength programme and that I go to the gym Wed, Fri and Sun and I was saying all the things I could do now (push ups etc..) and she said I was very good for doing all that but when I told her I drink protein drinks she looked at me like I'd just admitted to injecting anabolic steroids!

If I tell anyone that I regularly go to the gym, I just say I lift weights and sometimes comment on how it's me and the men in the weights area (which gets wide-eyed looks too).
Eating artificial processed animal product derivative to reach a quotum for one nutrient, a quotum arbitrarily based on tons of dissenting research that I haven't read in detail, whose recommendations vary to the extreme.. that sounds like insanity to me sometimes.

Eating as much animal products as we do at all, probably more than any other group except for eskimo's, and gleefully accepting all the consequences that brings for our environment and ethical standards - all for the sake of vanity... is insanity to me..

Going to a gym to lift weights instead of going out and buliding houses, running farms, helping and doing chores for each other... also seems insanity to me sometimes.

The fact that I prefer the gym over a 'fun' sport outdoors is because the gym is so efficient that I can spend the rest of my time behind the laptop to continue my already disfunctional lifestyle... is a bit insane.

Checking a forum on fitness and fatloss 30 times in one day while one should be being productive or at least reading about real interests such as books, literature, games, politics, world affairs... a bit insane.

Perhaps I'm just one of those people who 'doesn't get it'?
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But Jules, if your BF didn't know about the forums and all that before, what did you do when he came into the room when you were online? Distract him with your feminine wiles?
Of course not, that would take time away from sitting behind my laptop! I would simply alt-tab to something boring until he went away
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Try explaining going to the Summit - it's quite the experience lol.
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Try explaining going to the Summit - it's quite the experience lol.
Teehee, I can imagine!
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Eating artificial processed animal product derivative to reach a quotum for one nutrient, a quotum arbitrarily based on tons of dissenting research that I haven't read in detail, whose recommendations vary to the extreme.. that sounds like insanity to me sometimes.

Eating as much animal products as we do at all, probably more than any other group except for eskimo's, and gleefully accepting all the consequences that brings for our environment and ethical standards - all for the sake of vanity... is insanity to me..

Going to a gym to lift weights instead of going out and buliding houses, running farms, helping and doing chores for each other... also seems insanity to me sometimes.

The fact that I prefer the gym over a 'fun' sport outdoors is because the gym is so efficient that I can spend the rest of my time behind the laptop to continue my already disfunctional lifestyle... is a bit insane.

Checking a forum on fitness and fatloss 30 times in one day while one should be being productive or at least reading about real interests such as books, literature, games, politics, world affairs... a bit insane.

Perhaps I'm just one of those people who 'doesn't get it'?
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You're quite right, we're all strange but it's the path we've chosen....
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You're quite right, we're all strange but it's the path we've chosen....
True, and it's a pretty cool path to explore. It's just some times I feel conflicted about it, and that's part of why I keep it seperate from my normal life. Sorry for spilling
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No Doubt! That is one extremely awkward conversation. I'm going to Arkansas to spend the weekend with a bunch of guys I met on the Internet. You keep expecting John Stossel to be waiting for in your hotel.
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I think the average person would find what we all do here to be a bit odd or obsessive.
Too true, which is why I admit I don't reveal the food-logging and counting to most of my friends and family. I'm sure they'd find it to be OCD-ish, and I already have other weird habits that they comment on.

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But I would be mortified if people knew everything I eat goes into a database. Who wants to date someone who weighs their spaghetti before eating it? I sure don't.
LOL! I don't weigh and enter my food intake into a database regularly now - I just record what I've eaten, and mostly leave it at that - but the only other person who knows that I did that (in the non-forum world, anyway) is my hubby. I'm actually really glad that he's gone through his own fitness & nutrition phases, because he didn't say anything when I was tracking and logging my food and exercise; he had "been there, done that" already.

I had a funny conversation with his younger sister recently where I spilled some beans about his past. He's usually very open about what he's been up to, but his sister and I were discussing supplements, and I mentioned how even dh went through his creatine and going-crazy-with-the-workouts phase while trying to test into the Army Special Forces (which he eventually didn't do anyway, but continued on w/the fitness regimen because of his ego). His sister was absolutely shocked, and for a few reasons:

1. He usually spends his free time playing Dungeons & Dragons, or researching it. So his sister assumed he didn't exercise outside of Army PT, LOL. That revelation actually floored her!

2. He dieted and did supplements. This coming from a guy who considers Dr. Pepper and Doritos to be vital food groups.

So I'm not the only one in the household with fitness skeletons in the closet. And I was actually really glad to have that confirmed!
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My weight graph for the last two months. Not much progress, but at least going in the right general direction. My body is pretty stubborn, it picks a weight and will usually not budge from the spot, gravitating back from every swing with springy vengeance.



That four day upshoot in the middle was very tough, they were just 4 regular normal deficit days, no explanation given.

I have taken a day off from work to study, and that's what I'll do (I study philosophy, by the way, you may have noticed :p). I'll take a few breaks to do mobility, and walk up and down to the store fo 45 minutes to buy something small I don't need, and do some housework. That should ensure I can have a somewhat decent plate of the BF's spaghetti tonight.

I'll try to make my decifit a bit lower (i.e. to 500, shock!), I want to get this over with and eat some real food at some point! I'll take a break in two weeks time, in any case.
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Everytime I come in here, there's something to smile about: bellygraph !

My wt loss/gain graph for 2008 is really neat, it ever so slowly trends downwards but there are monthly spikes for the womenz' whoremoans & accompanying pigfest. I'm always telling everyone to do weekly or monthly averages and plot them in graphs, but few people do. And even less give such cute names to their graphs.

I'd surely have thought you study English, it's such a pleasure to read it.
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My wt loss/gain graph for 2008 is really neat, it ever so slowly trends downwards but there are monthly spikes for the womenz' whoremoans & accompanying pigfest. I'm always telling everyone to do weekly or monthly averages and plot them in graphs, but few people do. And even less give such cute names to their graphs.
Thanks! It's the graph site I use, it's very barebones but it does the trick

I had to read that line a few times before I realised you meant hormones, I was having really weird associations there for a bit!
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Graph in kg! Silly fitday still makes my graphs in lbs, even though I entered 'kilograms' as my prefered weight unit

My weight always seems to go up after a workout, maybe that's what caused your spike? But yes, defenitely a downward trend!
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Pips, water retention after working out is common for many .. DOMS or Delayed Onset of Muscle Soreness is actually an inflammation of the muscles. Each & any inflammation = water retention.

Since starting to track my morning temp (BBT) for fertility awareness I'm also keenly aware of mid-cycle spikes..those are the most obvious ones as the one right before menstruation could also be caused because of PMS-eating and generally you just know when AuntFlo is coming. Not so much for ovulation that tends to shift around from cycle to cycle, but can be easily pinpointed when you do morning temps. Also neat to foresee yourself getting ill as fluctuations of as little as 0.5°C can send a warning red flag even though you don't yet feel sick. (ah.. extolling the virtues of FAM )
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- I've tried eating when I'm naturally hungry, and not at times when I feel I should. This means a breakfast at 12, and then usually no food until I'm home. Then I eat a big meal and am feeling full for the rest of the evening. This eliminates all of my craving moments. Two meals a day! I'm such a rebel.
I've been meaning to do this. I've taught myself to love breakfast but I know from experience that if I skip breakfast everyday it doesn't bother me at all until lunch time. (Actually I know from experience that if I skip breakfast and lunch it doesn't bother me so much after while, but lets not get out of hand, huh?)

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Order one! They're relatively cheap and easily ordered in the UK! There were tons of them on amazon.uk, and all the foam rolling routines are online for free, so once you have a roller, you're good to go!
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Yes, we need to add more peeps to the foam rolling corps.

Jules, I agree--the overall trend is what's important! Tiny spikes while still in a deficit are likely just water retention.
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In our family we call that being a vampire.
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Not so much for ovulation that tends to shift around from cycle to cycle, but can be easily pinpointed when you do morning temps.
Whenever I want to have sex 2+ times a day, I always blame it on ovulation. Not sure if that is what it is, but it is a good excuse.
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Old 06-12-2009, 05:38 PM   #120 (permalink)
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As an avid gamer myself, I can understand the hours at the PC or console.
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