I'll figure out the best way to take the EC. Possibly alternate days since the day after seems ok too. Like Tues, Thurs, Sat, Sun maybe. I'll experiment a bit.
Sleep is great actually; better than before I tried it. Solid 7 hours then itching to get up, rather than my normal 6 to 8 hours of half-sleep and then can't get up!
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I'm watching your EC experiment with great fascination. Hope it keeps working for you.
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As far as my professional goals, when I'm not being as negative as possible, I think I can probably focus one of two different extremes. Go all out fitness and focus on a particular sport (like running coach) or focus on trying to help overweight women find some balance in their lives. I like this last one now. I didn't before; I wanted to focus on fitness. Now I guess I feel an affinity, like maybe I can help. I don't think overweight women would hold it against me that I'm not stick thin. (Though I still hope to get lean!!!)
Another niche I've noticed that doesn't seem to call for the super shredded look is focusing on rehabby sorts of stuff. Dunno if that would interest you. Two trainers at my gym have some aspects of that listed among their skills. And of course it's totally possible to have clients in more than one niche.
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I'm watching your EC experiment with great fascination. Hope it keeps working for you.
Thanks. I was a little unsure about mentioning it here; it is a bit like cheating. But I'd reached the end of my rope. But as I said I feel like I'm learning things about my own psychology and my relationship with food. Yesterday I took it in the morning and I was in a really down mood and I wanted comfort food. I was just barely able to fight it, mostly from circumstance really. But it's interesting to me that the EC helps but issues like the fact that I turn to food for depression are still up to me to fix. At least I can really see where my issues are though, now that I can kind of "turn off" hunger and simple cravings.
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Another niche I've noticed that doesn't seem to call for the super shredded look is focusing on rehabby sorts of stuff. Dunno if that would interest you. Two trainers at my gym have some aspects of that listed among their skills. And of course it's totally possible to have clients in more than one niche.
I'm actually interested in all of it now: the pyschology of dieting, running, strength. I wouldn't even discount the idea of going back to school to become a physiotherapist. Maybe I'll write a cook book too!
But yes, there's a course you can do here to get put on a list for doctor recommendations. I could definitely have a really good time re-habbing the elderly! I love old people!
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How do you burn 800+ calories on an elliptical. Wouldn't that take hours?
It probably wasn't that much actually. It took an hour at a resistance level of 10 to 12 with my heart rate in the 170's to register a calorie burn of 700 if I remember correctly. Admittedly, those machines do over-estimate calorie burn. I was also adding in the burn of the rest of my visit lifting and my walk earlier in the day.
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Slowly but surely getting my average calories down with my EC assisted low-cal days. I really have to go very low to see a drop. When I lost weight a few years ago unintentionally it was by basically eating only dinner. I'm at 72 kg right now but I feel smaller than that in my clothes and my wedding ring is starting to slip off easily.
Now is where I have to stay committed. This is where I always lose focus.
Workout today: (arms still sore from thursday so did more core stuff really)
Plank - 90 sec, 60 sec, 60 sec (usually only do one set of 90 sec.)
Lat pulldown - 35 kg 3x8
Back ext's - 7kg 3 x 10 (haven't done these in a while but my lower back is what's stopping me from doing longer planks)
For a laugh, I picked up a bar with 5kg on each side and did 8 squats with it. Then I did 2 reps of 8 deadlifts. Pathetic, yes, but my first experience with a barbell rather than dumb bells.
After that it was really hard to run but I did 8ish kilometers in an hour. My polar hrm told me I burned 905 calories.
I feel kinda beat up now.
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Really your first time with a barbell? Generally dumbbells (writing dumb bells makes me LOL) are harder to balance.. you should find them easier to work with
It's a common discovery for many: needing to go lower than they think for fat loss. It's why I always keep these very low days of 1000-1300kcal (even 1400-1600kcal can be too high) to contrast with the absurdly high days. I'm often afraid I will forget how to diet when I won't keep those days.. plus eating more on the more moderate deficit days doesn't make me eat less on the truly high days.. so if I wouldn't do the very low ones.. I'd rapidly gain weight.
I've done fairly well so far this week until just now. I'm making biscotti and ate the edges.
I've had a cold this week, so not going super low, though I'm starting to feel better today. Also my muscles are just starting to feel better from Saturday's workout! Its probably the low calories and the cold that it was that bad.
I'll probably take the EC again tomorrow but certainly Friday. It's definitely helped even on the days I don't take it. I do get cravings fo course but I'm able to eat significantly less during the day now. I really feel that with the EC to fall back on I'll actually do it this time.
Back to the gym tomorrow I hope! I'm ready to run again!
Speaking of running, I think I'm going to the London Running Show!! http://www.runningshow.co.uk ! So excited about that!!!
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Still no scale loss. Well, last week it was 71.9 and this morning 72.5. Calories have been low too. My clothes have been getting looser too so I'm not really worried. I may have to think about the 5 low 2 high thing again though. Don't know when I'll be able to do that though. January??? Maybe for a couple weeks between Thanksgiving and Christmas.
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5 low & 2 high days didn't work for me when I tried to do it with extreeeeemely low carbs , but maybe the crucial difference between a good & a bad 5low+2high cycle is when carbs aren't too low on the low days.
My body would just swelllll up & retain a TON of fluid when I did that type of carb loads. Since eating starches at least several times a week, I'm no longer bloating.. it must be both from higher enzyme activity as well as producing less stress hormone (cortisol just like prednisone makes you retain fluids).
While carbing up twice a week (3 days apart) has worked well, I see that upping the quantity of high days to 4 low, 3 high days doesn't work... even when calories are kept the same as on the 4 low , 1 moderate , 2 high days approach.
So you might try this :
Etana's 5 really low + 2 high
My old 2 low - 1 high - 1 low - 1 medium - 1 low - 1 high
My old system resembled UD2.0 a little bit which is like:
4 low (with high rep low wt work) - 1 or 2 high (moderate reps moderate wt)- 2 or 1 medium (low rep heavy wt)
I could have fluid retention from carbs or cortisol or something. This past week has been good, but not great. I've been eating under maintenence, but not way under maintenence like I need to. I don't really know what the answer is, though I will try to keep calories as low as I can for the rest of the year outside of holidays. Then as of Jan 1ish, I may try some 5 low 2 maintenence if I need to maybe. Though I'd really rather be able to run and lift instead. We'll see I guess. I'll have to ride out the next 8 weeks and see how it goes.
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Gen I know we touched on this once before but are your meds optimized? I am not having the water retention problems I was since the surgery. I have suffered from them going on 3 yrs and I feel your pain-they flat out suck. I really feel this is because of the increase in the Cytomel for me.
(cortisol just like prednisone makes you retain fluids).
Leigh talks about keeping your body stress free through dieting. I wonder if the fact that I insist on high intensity workouts and take EC stacks means that I retain water from cortisol. I think I need some cortisol info.
Occasional workout and EC breaks should help I guess. This last week was a mini break on workouts and EC (Mon - Thurs). I started to get a cold so ate 1400 - 1700 calories and didn't no workouts from Sunday to Wednesday. Probably not enough really. I went back as soon as the cold started to tail off.
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Can we say frustrated!? I did some intervals yesterday on the treadmill: 7 x 2 min @ 11 kph. It felt good; my workout pants felt looser. This morning I am 73 kg.
I am fighting the urge to say FUKITOL (thanks Espi ) and splurge on something great because I actually know I'm losing, I can feel it. My clothes say so.
The scale is a lying bastard!!!
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If your clothes are getting looser... stay the course, unless you're really hungry. Do you plan your refeeds/cheat meals or just 'insert' them whenever you feel a need for them?
They just happen really. My calories are down in all areas though. Because of the EC, when I have a special event I dont eat until then so calories don't go crazy high. ~2000 once or twice a week. The rest is ~1200. Yesterday was 950.
If I don't have good results by the beginning of January I'll take a more structured approach I guess. Like Leigh suggestion that Etana is doing; 5 low 2 high.
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Plus, my desire to remain stunningly attractive outweighs the call of the cheesecake. mostly...
Leigh talks about keeping your body stress free through dieting. I wonder if the fact that I insist on high intensity workouts and take EC stacks means that I retain water from cortisol. I think I need some cortisol info.
Occasional workout and EC breaks should help I guess. This last week was a mini break on workouts and EC (Mon - Thurs). I started to get a cold so ate 1400 - 1700 calories and didn't no workouts from Sunday to Wednesday. Probably not enough really. I went back as soon as the cold started to tail off.
That's the approach I am starting to with to see how my body responds post surgery-just walking for now. It sounds like we are all science experiments lol.
That's the approach I am starting to with to see how my body responds post surgery-just walking for now. It sounds like we are all science experiments lol.
That's what keeps it interesting for me to track & weigh..
I should do the measuring too but am too lazy. Just notice how my pants need to be altered, so I'm not just weighing slightly less but am also shrinking in the right places.
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