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Old 08-24-2009, 04:34 PM   #151 (permalink)
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Are you diligently weighing and measuring? Are tracking everything? It's so easy to have a couple hundred extra calories without even realizing if you aren't really careful.
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Are you diligently weighing and measuring? Are tracking everything? It's so easy to have a couple hundred extra calories without even realizing if you aren't really careful.
Yeah, its not that. I may not be super anal about it all the time, but at least my low and medium days should be about as spot on as you can be. I would have lost something. I lost 4 pounds in two months. That's just water.

Last week was all my fault. The really low days caused binging on the high days. I'm going to have to try that again when I get a chance to regroup, talk to the doctor and get more thyroxine. To be honest a 1700 average may not be low enough with little exercise. I was walking and moving as much as possible but I think I'll have to only go as high as 1800 on the refeed days.

Anyway, I haven't been perfect, but I'm not at 20% fat yet. I should see some movement without perfection.
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I've been reading the spark people thyroid group forums and its been making me so depressed.

Even on the correct dosage people say that they lose slowly. Well, I guess losing slowly would be better than nothing at all.

I've also found it difficult to bother with any willpower because as I'm not medicated right now it won't do me any good. It seems to me that I really have a set point right now. I've been able to gain a bit when I eat but it's been easy to get that off and get back to 72 - 74 kg. So why shouldn't I have that extra helping?

I go to the doctor on Tuesday; I'll beg him for T3 then.
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May I ask why you think the 4 lb loss in 2 months is only water and not fat? I saw you say that in another thread and wanted to ask, so I might have missed your reasoning.

Just here to cheer you on.
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May I ask why you think the 4 lb loss in 2 months is only water and not fat? I saw you say that in another thread and wanted to ask, so I might have missed your reasoning.

Just here to cheer you on.
I'm probably being overly-negative actually. I just seem to float around 72 to 74 no matter what I do. I don't think I'll be able to accept that any of it is fat loss until I get under 70, which I only did very briefly in the early spring this year, before it got more difficult.

Thanks for the cheer It's really much appreciated.
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The doctor today very easily prescribed me some T3 when I asked for it. I'm feeling much better and more positive now (partly b/c the pms is gone too ).

I've read that T3 is associated with weight loss and just general feeling better, but that doctors don't always like to prescribe it. They'd rather just stick to T4. My doc was cool with trying T3. Glad I asked him!

Anyway I have two and a halfish weeks until Paris so I'm going to stay low until then but not go really serious until I get back from there.

A little disappointed that I won't be near my target by my 30th birthday (and Paris!) but I'm staying positive that things will get better and a little easier now.

I don't know how I did it today but I had 1200 calories but so little protein... 69 grams! Oh well, I'm so used to eating protein most of the time that my high days are naturally pretty high on protein now. I always eat my protein first!
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Sighhh...Paris how exciting for you! My endo prescibed t3 for me today-turns out some peeps with Fibro have conversion problems with t3 & t4 and I may actually end up needing a bit more t3. I have a surgery consult on the 17th-the 2 nodules are now complex and one is increased in size and I now have a third nodule. So it looks like a thyroidectomy and biopsy for cancer. Sharing your experiences has really helped me a lot.
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May I ask why you think the 4 lb loss in 2 months is only water and not fat? I saw you say that in another thread and wanted to ask, so I might have missed your reasoning.

Just here to cheer you on.

People with thyroid issues usually have water retention problems. My biggest gain in a day from water retention has been 8 lbs. Do you have problems with this post surgery Gen?
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Sighhh...Paris how exciting for you! My endo prescibed t3 for me today-turns out some peeps with Fibro have conversion problems with t3 & t4 and I may actually end up needing a bit more t3. I have a surgery consult on the 17th-the 2 nodules are now complex and one is increased in size and I now have a third nodule. So it looks like a thyroidectomy and biopsy for cancer. Sharing your experiences has really helped me a lot.
Yay! A round of T3 of all! You should feel better soon too then. T3 works much faster than T4.

Sorry that you'll need the thyroidectomy. Its a PIA but it'll be alright, and I'm almost willing to bet that managing thyroid issues will be easier with it out.

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It's hard to say. I didn't do half the tracking I do now; I didn't know half of what I know about weight loss and nutrition. Just prior to the surgery I tried to lose weight and lost about 10 pounds in 3 weeks and then stalled, which coincidentally or not is exactly what happened this past February. Lost 10 pounds in 3 weeks and then plateued out. Take that as you will. I'm hoping it means that adequately medicated, things stay the same.
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I've been doing really well this week. Monday my husband and I both didn't eat until dinner (except some popcorn at the movie theatre ) and then Tuesday and yesterday I stayed at 1100ish.

Today I have 1275 planned IF I eat a yogurt before going to the gym. I know Leigh says to keep exercise down but I like to run dammit. I don't really go overboard, usually just 4 - 5 k and not even all running.

I loved the thread between Etana and Leigh. It really helped. 1000 cals for 5 days is hard but we'll see what I can do. Maybe I'll do 4 days 1000 cals and then 2 days 2000 cals and stay on a rotating 6 day plan. Maybe not.
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I envy those who like to run-never liked running myself. Always felt self conscious because of my chest-42DD. You keep it up you will have that long lean runners body.
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I hate it but I love it, you know? Who knows, Leigh says that maybe I have an adrenaline addiction like other thyroid deficient girls. It makes a lot of sense too. But do you know how many vices I've given up? I have to give up training as a vice too? Geesh. God is a funny guy.
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Mon - 76 kg - then 1000ish Cals fasted until dinner
Tues - 74 kg- then 1100 Cals
Thus - 73 kg- then 1200 Cals
Fri - 73 kg- 1200 planned

I've been watching the scale most mornings this week for curiosity purposes as the water weight leaves. I'm planning 2000 calories Saturday and Sunday (or depending on how I feel, today and Saturday).

I'm really just experimenting right now, but really getting used to these 1100 calorie days at work. Not liking them, but getting used to them. I'm waiting for the T3 to kick in and then weight to fall off but really I think I'm just dreaming.

When I get back after my birthday, I'm going to start with more numbers and charts and fun stuff like that to display here.

I get so sad when I look around and read logs where people have lost more than the amount I want to lose since I've been here. I realize a lot of it is my fault, I haven't dieted down enough, but that doesn't make me feel better of course.

12 weeks ago I was not ready for an 1100 calorie diet though; now I am. I do it most days now and if I buckle down and not go over board on refeeds I can do this. I have to.
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How are you doing with your cytomel? I am still not sleeping as much as I need to but so far that's my only symptom. So glad I didn't have heart palps. Wow 1000 calories just blows my mind-I am trying to lower mine to 1800. I have dropped to 196 from 202 since August 3rd on an average of 2130 cals-I know most of this is water weight but it sure feels good to get rid of it.
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I know what you mean. Feeling lighter is always nice, it doesn't matter what it is really.

I haven't had any trouble yet with the cytomel. I'm taking 10 (mg?) right now and he said if it feels like not enough in a week and a half to then increase to 20 (they are 20mg tablets anyway). I think he was starting me low to make sure that I don't get jittery or anything. I'm ok, but I know my aunt hated it and went back on Synthroid. I'd guess give it a week or so and then if you still feel that way call the doc and let her know.
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I got really tired of seeing my face on all my posts so I changed my avatar. I've always preferred a symbolic avatar anyway, not that this one is very mysterious.

My husband is away at a stag party this weekend so I'm on my own. I had such a problem deciding what to eat! I can have anything at all. Obviously I'll choose something that he's unlikely to be happy with. Nachos! He doesn't think they are "dinner" so I only have them once in a blue moon for an appetiser out or something. I may still have them tomorrow on my 2000 day but today I'm still supposed to be low.

I was going to have a grilled chicken tortilla pizza. Or I was going to have a butternut squash risotto, or butternut squash and lentil curry. I also almost had oatmeal.

I settled on a chicken eggdrop soup with zucchini and eggnoodles. It was actually yummy and really filling suuuuper easy! I wasn't sure I'd have the calories for chicken and 2 eggs but it turns out had the calories left over for the noodles too.

End of days calories: 1176
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All of that sounds good lol. My son & I like to have appetizers for dinner or breakfast for dinner but my husband doesn't. I am having a craving for pancakes (rarely do this is weird) so I might mix up some oatmeal pancakes this weekend and work it into my calories. My gosh you are good Jen at 1126 cals!
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I used to use cartoon-type avatars for a long time online. I just can't find out that I feel represents me at the moment. It looks good though.
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All of that sounds good lol. My son & I like to have appetizers for dinner or breakfast for dinner but my husband doesn't. I am having a craving for pancakes (rarely do this is weird) so I might mix up some oatmeal pancakes this weekend and work it into my calories. My gosh you are good Jen at 1126 cals!
I love appetizers for dinner! Tapas is my favorite! Variety is the apice of life!

I had pancakes for breakfast this morning.

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Chocolate protein pancakes with peanut butter and honey. 692 calories. Yum!

Still not sure about dinner.
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It kinda looks like your pic you had in your other avi Gen-long blond hair-good choice.

I finally slept for a good length of time and think the Cytomel is doing some good-I have had energy to workout and haven't felt totally drained the last 3 days. And for me it's true-slept a good 8 hrs and my water weight is down this morning. Banana oatmeal pancakes maybe today.
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It kinda looks like your pic you had in your other avi Gen-long blond hair-good choice.

I finally slept for a good length of time and think the Cytomel is doing some good-I have had energy to workout and haven't felt totally drained the last 3 days. And for me it's true-slept a good 8 hrs and my water weight is down this morning. Banana oatmeal pancakes maybe today.
Thats good, I was really hoping it would get better for you with the cytomel.
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Today is my refeed day and I had pizza for dinner and still need 500 calories!

Protein pancakes for breakfast (630ish)
Protein bar for lunch (230ish)
Pizza and salad for dinner (1.5 hours later)(650ish)

I have some Ben and Jerry's ice cream in the freezer for just this occasion!!!

I walked into town today, did a little shopping and walked back. All in all 4.25 hours - 620ish calories burned.

Its been a nice day. I don't feel bingey at all. I don't know if its the time of the month, the lack of alcohol (DH is an instigator and not here now), the plenty of sleep or what. I'll take it though.
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Mon - Fri Calories 1100ish
Friday am weight: 73 kg
Saturday Calories 2000
Sunday Calories 2000
Monday am weight: 72.8
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Last week I was fine, today is day 2 of 5 low calories and I'm fed up! This goes along with my previous idea of doing a higher cal day on Wednesday, just a bit, like 1500 to keep me sane. Maybe I will. Although I didn't sleep much last night and I went to the gym and lifted a few weights. Not a lot but ultimately I haven't been lifting much anyway.

I can't wait until this is over. I just want to eat maintenence and train with some intensity already!

72.5 kg this morning. I'm realy wondering if my maintenence weekend needs to be a bit higher. To lose at all on a mantenence weekend is a bit surprising...
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I can't wait until this is over. I just want to eat maintenence and train with some intensity already!
This is what really annoys me. I want this too. It is also what drives me oon now. I am sick of yoyoing I am going all out until I hit my goal. Everything else now has a lower priority.
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