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Old 06-24-2009, 02:18 PM   #151 (permalink)
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I thought chicken "legs"..

But chicken feet is what they have in fitday...
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what? You didn't actually eat 1/2 pound of chicken feet? It was legs/drumsticks?
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what? You didn't actually eat 1/2 pound of chicken feet? It was legs/drumsticks?
Wow, I absolutely assumed that you actually meant feet. I grew up in the deep south where nothing was wasted and I've seen people eat some crazy things. Chicken legs sounds a lot more appetizing!
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I thought chicken feet too - but thought 1/2 a pound added up to a lot of feet without much meat for an entire meal.
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Doy!

Drumsticks!!

That's what they were (bones removed)..

I typed drumsticks into fitday and it was more forgiving of me..

I was still way over, though.. 2823..
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Old 06-25-2009, 01:59 PM   #156 (permalink)
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June 24/09

Diet:

1 cup cottage cheese
160g apple
20g almonds

210g tuna
150g mandarin oranges, canned
160g apple
1/4 cup yogurt (1.6%mf)
15g walnuts
EFA

5.5 oz chicken breast
1.5 red peppers, large
20g almonds
Green tea
EFA

1 cup cottage cheese
1 cup 1% milk
20g cocoa powder
60g spinach
28g Metabolic Drive

64g banana
30g peanut butter
28g Metabolic Drive
240g cottage cheese
20g cocoa powder

100g cottage cheese

Cals: 2560 Protein: 251 .. 33/30/40

I forgot my scale at home so the meals at work I had to eye ball some stuff (I DID have a measuring cup).. But I erred on the side of caution, weight-wise (I gave more weight than there probably was for each item).
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Old 06-26-2009, 04:31 PM   #157 (permalink)
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June 25/09

Weight: 210

SQUATS

BARx5
95x4
145x4
195x3
215x2
235x2
255x5x3
215x5

I should take a camera and see how low I'm going with my working sets.. I have a feeling it's not as low as I could/should be going..

I go low enough on my warm-up and backdown sets..

Maybe I SHOULD try box squats..

BENCH PRESS

BARx5
95x4
145x3
165x3
185x2
205x5x3
165x5

Well, my last 2 reps weren't as ugly as last week, but still nothing to be proud of..

It was suggested even though I'm eating at a deficit I SHOULD try to do resets with my stalled lifts.. So next time I'll take it down 30-40 lbs and work my way back up..

CHIN UPS

10 lbs. x 10, 7, 6

FRONT AND SIDE PLANKS

1 min (alternating leg raises), 30 seconds on sides..


Diet:

30g peanut butter
80g spinach
28g Metabolic drive
230g ricotta cheese
100g milk

40g feta cheese
200g egg whites
2 eggs
100g onions
80g peas
125g salsa

WORKOUT

315g apple sauce
20g wheat germ
15g honey
75g 1% milk
45g Metabolic Drive

8.5 oz strip loin
100g asparagus
50g avocado

250g cottage cheese
30g peanut butter

Cals: 2600 Protein: 258 .. 37/22/41
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Old 06-26-2009, 06:45 PM   #158 (permalink)
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June 26/09

150g 1% milk
200g cottage cheese
60g spinach
20g cocoa powder
28g Metabolic Drive
25g peanut butter

150g beef strip loin, fat trimmed
220g red pepper
60g avocado

135g beef strip loin, fat trimmed
100g avocado
200g red pepper

8 oz chicken
100g asparagus
200g broccoli
200g red pepper

20g cocoa powder
28g Metabolic Drive
200g cottage cheese
20g peanut butter
100g spinach
100g 1% milk

Cals: 2550 Protein: 300g .. 35/20/45


I love steak, I just wish fitday would make it easier to tell what I should be typing in for strip loin, with all the outside fat trimmed off..

Oh well, I erred on the side of caution, calorie wise..

Odd, though, after the 2 steak meals I still felt hungry soon afterwords, and had to force myself to wait 3 hours at least before eating again..

I had enough fat from the avocado, I thought, to keep me sated, I thought..
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Old 06-27-2009, 10:52 PM   #159 (permalink)
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June 27/09

DEADLIFTS


135x5
185x5
235x5
255x5

Shoot.. Didn't take my book, so forgot how much I did last time.. Ended up doing 5 lbs LESS than last time..

OH PRESS

BARx5
95x5
135x5x3
115x5

BENT OVER ROWS

BARx6
80x5
135x4
155x3
195x5x3

Back hurt, so I went a little easy on these..

HANGING CHAIR RAISES

12x3


Diet:

200g cottage cheese
30g peanut butter
80g spinach
20g cocoa powder
80g 1% milk
28g Metabolic Drive

100g salsa
250g egg whites
2 eggs
25g Parmesan cheese
60g onions
130g peppers
EFA
2 cups green tea

50g strip loin
80g chicken breast
25g avocado
140g broccoli
EFA

200g frozen blueberries
45g Metabolic drive
1 cup goat's milk, whole
175g 1% milk
15g ground flax seed

WORKOUT

280g extra lean ground beef
80g whole wheat bread
30g mushrooms
20g Swiss cheese
30g onion
.4 whole egg

Cals: 2780 Protein: 280 .. 36/23/41

LOL

Did it again!!

I'd have been ok, but for the goat's milk..

Or the slice of Swiss cheese.. Or that extra 15g of peanut butter.. LOL

At least it was a WO day..
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:50 AM   #160 (permalink)
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June 28/09

Diet:

320g cottage cheese
160g goat's milk
25g peanut butter
100g spinach
28g Metabolic Drive
20g cocoa powder
5g Creatine

200g egg whites
100g mushrooms
100g salsa
200g tomatoes
20g Parmesan cheese
EFA

280g extra lean ground beef
30g mushrooms
260g tomatoes
EFA
2 cups green tea

28g Metabolic Drive
60g spinach
220g cottage cheese
20g cocoa powder
50g goat's milk
20g peanut butter
1 scoop Greens+

150g cottage cheese
30g walnuts

Cals: 2510 Protein: 275 .. 40/17/43

Hmm..

I think I'm going to have to start having oats first thing in the morning again, and get my carb numbers up..

This eating only veggies and fruit isn't going to do it, and if I have the oats in the morning at least, it shouldn't be so bad..

I'll have starches on WO days, PWO..
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:16 PM   #161 (permalink)
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If you want to raise carb numbers you could always add things like beans, lentils, sweet potatoes and hard squashes.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:46 PM   #162 (permalink)
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Hmmmmm.... I may be wrong but your scale stalls seem to have more to do with extra calories sneaking in (more days off than on) than to any other possible thing (such as your body adapting to your workout)
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Good idea!

I'll make some butternut squash soup.. Get some more green peas, black beans....

Forgot they were up there, carb-wise..

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Could be..

I'm trying to get better at pre-planning the meals..

But hose latest slip ups have been the exception..

There was a good 3 weeks where I was pretty adherent to 2700 cals..

Scale's coming down again..

209 today..
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Old 06-29-2009, 03:08 PM   #164 (permalink)
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Yeah... It is alarming that you can screw up an entire week of compliance in one day if you are careless enough about things. Also... until you do get this compliance thing down all the details really don't matter. Cals in first and foremost...
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Yeah... It is alarming that you can screw up an entire week of compliance in one day if you are careless enough about things.
Pisses me off, and I swear it'll never happen again, and then I do it AGAIN a couple days after THAT..

What'll happen is I'll get behind on entering things on fitday, and I'll get to dinner thinking I have plenty of room left, and that I'll have enough for a bedtime snack of cottage cheese and peanut butter, even..

But more often than not, I'll overshoot on said dinner, and I'll be starving at 10:30 at night, drinking hot tea and hoping I'll fall asleep before it wears off.. All the time muttering "never again, never again".. LOL

GOT to just sit down whenever I can early in the day and just map the whole day out so there's no guess work..
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Not trying to beat the dead horse but I came here because of all your freaking out and switching things up in the nutrition forum. All because the scale isn't moving for you. Just suggesting that this is where the big effort needs to be put in your case. Not on macro management and that other stuff. It's good that you are learning the other stuff as it will all help you and come together but this one has to be first thing you master.

I did find that getting my protein levels up and making sure I get good fiber in helps me to not be as hungry btw... You might try experiementing with eating less or more meals, trying different foods, etc to see if something you do helps you with overshooting overall cals.
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Not a problem, kfisherx..

Flail away..

The scale IS moving again for me (finger's crossed!!!).

But I WILL be getting a handle on it from now on..

Like I say, the problem isn't cravings or anything, just the lack of foresight on my part, and eating meals that are too high on calories at one sitting..

Need to space the cals out a bit so I have enough left for a bedtime snack..
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Old 06-30-2009, 02:00 AM   #168 (permalink)
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June 29/09

Weight: 209

SQUAT

BARx5
95x4
145x4
195x3
215x2
235x2
265x5x3
215x5x2

Yup, asked a guy to watch my working sets, and I'm above parallel on them..

So I'm going to take it back to 215 (I know I'm getting good depth on these) and work up from there..

I'd rather do good light ones than crappy heavy ones..

BENCH PRESS

BARx5
95x4
145x3
165x3
185x5x3
165x5

Same here, I'll try resetting (this weight felt good), and work my way back up.. If that doesn't work, I'll try heavy sets..

CHIN UPS

15 lbs x 8, 6, 5, 3

BALL CRUNCHES

15x3


Diet:

50g rolled oats
250g cottage cheese
15g walnuts

220g extra lean ground beef
270g red pepper
100g broccoli
30g onions
30g mushrooms
21g Swiss cheese

WORKOUT

250g frozen mixed berries
1 tbsp honey
45g Metabolic Drive
100g yogurt

50g extra lean ground beef
100g red pepper

300g butternut squash, cooked
30g sour cream (full fat)
1/8 onion
1 tbsp olive oil
150g chicken breast

150g cottage cheese
15g peanut butter

Cals: 2500 Protein: 231 34/28/37


Awesome, awesome butternut squash soup.. Mmmmmmmmmmmmm...

Turned out great!!

Definately a keeper, that recipe..

Not sure how much oil I ate.. I coated the pan with 1/3 of a cup, but just the stuff in contact with the squash got soaked up.. I left the rest in the pan, of course.. Well, I'll say a tbsp went into my portion (300g out of a total of 1.9kg), and that should be close enough..

I covered and left 100 cal buffer, as well..
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Yup, asked a guy to watch my working sets, and I'm above parallel on them..

So I'm going to take it back to 215 (I know I'm getting good depth on these) and work up from there..

I'd rather do good light ones than crappy heavy ones.
Good for you. Thats a lesson I'm in the process of learning as well. I use my saw horses as a depth gauge. But, even with that I find that I still can cheat a bit if I bend more at the waist...so, I'm learning to keep more upright in the torso so that I'm at a good depth.
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Thinking about box squats myself...
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June 30/09

Diet:

300g Butternut squash
30g sour cream
160g chicken breast

250g cottage cheese
150g apple
15g walnuts

180g chicken breast
40g broccoli
240g red pepper

250g cottage cheese
150g apple
15g walnuts

250g cottage cheese
100g spinach
28g metabolic drive
20g cocoa
150g goat's milk, whole
30g peanut butter
5g Creatine

175g cottage cheese
15g peanut butter

Cals: 2590 Protein: 286 .. 32/23/46


Yeah, I know, alot of cottage cheese..

But it's good protein, and convenient for when I'm eating on the road..

Doesn't have to be cooked, heated up, tastes good..
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July 1/09

Canada Day, so the gym's closed..

It's been a while since I've had more than 1 day off for a while anyways, so..

Went for some walks..

Diet:

200g egg whites
2 eggs
40g feta
50g salsa
40g mushrooms
100g onions
80g ground turkey

220g tuna
120g spinach
150g mandarin oranges
100g yogurt
200g apple

260g cottage cheese
150g 1% milk
20g cocoa powder
28g Metabolic Drive
20g peanut butter
80g spinach

270g beef, strip loin
2 medium tomatoes
75g mushrooms
10g butter

100g cottage cheese
5g almonds


Cals: 2570 Protein: 270 .. 36/23/43
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Did some updated photos:

Before: April 09/09 230 lbs
After: June 27/09 210 lbs

I don't see much difference, except in the face, BIG time..



BEFORE



AFTER



BEFORE



AFTER



Is it me, or did my back look better before?
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Can't really compare these two..

I did a better job of flexing in the June one:

BEFORE



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BEFORE



AFTER



I don't THINK my gut is that big..

Bad posture doesn't help..

But this is me not squaring my shoulders or sucking anything in, in both photos..
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Great progress. I see huge improvements!

Oh, I wish I'd have had the forethought to take photos. Hell, I ran from cameras! I don't have any pictures of me when I was within 20;bs of my max weight.
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Really?
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Really?
Yes! If you're having trouble seeing it its because you're not able to be very objective about your own body and your own progress. But, from an outside objective observation there are big differences.

Don't go to t-nation and bodybuilding.com and posting your photos just yet! But, yes there is very obvious improvement!
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I concur with Chad. I see significant improvements. Have you taken a tape measure to your waist and chest yet (there's no way you're still 41")? If not, do it and post the results. Also, I'll bet if you PM your pics to Leigh, she'd give you an estimate of BF%.
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Wow, nice improvements there!
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