If you are eating celery....why isn't it in your food log? Do you have your fitday public? Might be an idea.
__________________ 2009: No races, No times. Slow year. So, now you're 96 cals short. You're now in starvation mode. Doomed. - LostDog
Blog entry: November 1, 2009, Pancakes LiveSTRONG daily plate log
One thing I have picked up on that seems to being ignored, or I may be missing something, is, your goal doesnt match your training programme.
The post is titled 20%BF or bust, but your strength training?
In my eyes, thats the biggest issue, as your not focussing 100% on one solid goal, but hovering between the two.
The second thing I noticed is the cardio your currently doing, if your serious about dropping your BF, a 2 mile walk isnt going to do anything, especially at the pace your doing, 37mins? Im guessing from your training log you arent injured or anything, so why so slow? Especially with your height and stride length.
Your diet is bette rthan most, which is normally where most people I encounter slip up, so no real worries there, but I would reassess your goals, personally, I would finish your current strength routine, not worrying about your BF, then, go into a real cutting phase and stepping up the cardio.
your not focussing 100% on one solid goal, but hovering between the two.
How so?
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why so slow?
I tried doing jogs (6mph) on my off days, but it quickly became apparent that I was overtraining by doing so.. I was achy all the time, felt like I had a cold..
So I thought this might be a decent compromise..
But yeah, I guess I could still run, just at 5mph, say, with no incline..
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Im guessing from your training log you aren't injured or anything
I am also curious on the thoughts put forward that his strength training routine will be in effective for fat loss because it's not a cutting routine even though his diet has him eating the right number of calories to lose weight.
ie How do you exactly define a cutting routine vs a strength routine and how is one more effective than the other, and just how much more effective.?
Og.
(Sorry to hear about your back dougz!)
__________________ 2009: No races, No times. Slow year. So, now you're 96 cals short. You're now in starvation mode. Doomed. - LostDog
Blog entry: November 1, 2009, Pancakes LiveSTRONG daily plate log
I mean once I'm out of said chair and my spine is loaded I have about a minute of stabbing pain..
I mean I'm getting my kids to put my socks on me..
Yeah..
Here's the story, if you're interested (if you're not, just take the above in and go):
The day before yesterday I strain my back a bit, carrying extinguishers up and down stairs..
But by the next day I'm feeling alright.. Not great, but alright..
So I go to the gym, do my 10 minute w/u run, do some stretching..
Then I go to do my first excersize, squats.. Warm-up weights feel alright.. And I get up to my working weight (215), and 3 reps into my 2nd set I come down and when I go to get back up I feel a really bad spasm in my spinal erectors.. Right at the base.. I barely get the weight up and off..
Maybe I wasn't paying enough attention to keeping my abs tight and my shoulders back, I dunno..
I gamely try and see if I can maybe do my upper body stuff (bench press and chin ups), but nothing doing..
So I'm forced to go home and put ice on my back, 10 minutes on, 5 minutes off.. I do this most of the day, when I go to work that night (the 23rd) as well.
Today (the 24th) pain is about the same.
Now, I've hurt my back before, and it's been as bad..
I hurt it at work years ago, and it's never been the same..
One time I sneezed.. Sneezed!! And I was on my knees..
It always seems to happen just when I'm feeling good.. Feeling "strong, like bull!"..
Juuuust when I say to myself "hey, I think I've finally turned a corner with this back thing.. I feel as if I cou..... OW!!!!!!!!!!!!".
Anyway, I'll put ice on at the same intervals for all of today, and tomorrow I'll start with the hot soaks..
Hopefully I'll be able get back to weights in a week or so, and I'll try doing some mobility work in a couple more days..
Any more suggestions?
I can probably cut my calories back to maybe 2300?
I won't be doing much of anything for at least a couple days..
Short walks, that's about it..
diet for April 23/09:
75ml 1% milk
50g rolled oats
250g 2% cottage cheese
13g walnuts
4g dark brown sugar
500g Blueberries
60g whey protein powder (my pre WO shake, broke this down into 2 separate meals)
13g walnuts
I leave the skin on my sweet spuds. More cause I am lazy than any other reason. Same reason I leave them on my squash.
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I'm going to take this opportunity to really try and CUT..
Go as low as I can, calorie-wise, and whatever else cutting entails (I'll have to read up on this, as I have no idea what to do)..
Anybody have any good links?
Weight: 222
Diet for April 25/09
75ml 1% milk
50g rolled oats
250g 2% cottage cheese
13g walnuts
4g dark brown sugar
150g brown rice
220g chicken breast
300g 2% cottage cheese
140g grapes
37g almonds
200g sweet potato, skin off (leave them on?), cut into fries, added some spices..
210g asparagus (steamed)
1g butter
322g chicken breast
2306 cals Protein 270g F 20% C 31% P 49%
__________________ 2009: No races, No times. Slow year. So, now you're 96 cals short. You're now in starvation mode. Doomed. - LostDog
Blog entry: November 1, 2009, Pancakes LiveSTRONG daily plate log
__________________ 2009: No races, No times. Slow year. So, now you're 96 cals short. You're now in starvation mode. Doomed. - LostDog
Blog entry: November 1, 2009, Pancakes LiveSTRONG daily plate log
I see you've figured out that all the posts are really by Ogedei. We like to pretend that we're all different people though. (Either that or it takes a little while for people to notice a new log.)
Good to meet you. It looks like you're off to a great start.
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What if you fail to eat at least 1g of protein one day? End of the world?
Generally your muscles explode. Very messy. Closed coffin recommended.
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I'm ditching the waxy maize in favour of conventional foods, also after talking with Alan..
Ahh, you're getting your advice from good people then.
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I got my digital scale, so I'll be remeasuring everything on fitday..
I love my digital scale though I don't use it for everything. (For example with veggies I go by volume. I want to eventually be comfortable eyeballing stuff.)
Also, glad to hear you are feeling at least somewhat better. Injuries suck.
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-Alan Aragon
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-Ogedei (Keith)
I see you've figured out that all the posts are really by Ogedei. We like to pretend that we're all different people though. (Either that or it takes a little while for people to notice a new log.)
shhh we are not supposed to tell....
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I love my digital scale though I don't use it for everything. (For example with veggies I go by volume. I want to eventually be comfortable eyeballing stuff.)
I can understand the desire to want to eyeball stuff. But I've always hated volume calculations for veggies. I am 90% sure I can take two equally weighing chunks of vegetable matter and get one into a a cup and the other into 2 cups based on how I cut it.
Now I am sure in terms of veggies and calorie amounts it's not going to be THAT much of a difference, but for starchier stuff it might make a difference. So I support weighing veggies and getting a feel for them that way.
Of course all that being said. If you are having success with one method, who am I to say it's being done wrong?
Og.
__________________ 2009: No races, No times. Slow year. So, now you're 96 cals short. You're now in starvation mode. Doomed. - LostDog
Blog entry: November 1, 2009, Pancakes LiveSTRONG daily plate log
Two 40 minute brisk walks in the afternoon and evening.
Back feels good, and I really felt like at least doing some push-ups and pull ups, but I don't want to push it and be back at square 1..
I'll put some heat on tomorrow, more walks, then I'll start with some stretches, back strengthening and mobility stuff.. Baby steps..
Diet:
75ml 1% milk
50g rolled oats
180g 2% cottage cheese
14g walnuts
4g dark brown sugar
300g chicken breast
315g sweet potatoes
275g asparagus
8g walnuts
75ml 1% milk
50g rolled oats
180g 2% cottage cheese
14g walnuts
4g dark brown sugar
4 chicken drumsticks with skin (420 cals?) Forgot to debone them..
honey and soy sauce marinade (64 cals?)
90g steamed broccoli
125b brown rice
Cals? Approx. 2740. protein 263g . F 26% C 34% P 39%?????
Cheat day today, as I can't really know how much that dinner was because of the chicken and marinade.. But that's a close approximation..
Was reading in Muscle and Fitness that you DO have to worry about going into a catabolic state overnight.. So I'll cover my bases and think of some alternatives to cottage cheese in the morning..
ie How do you exactly define a cutting routine vs a strength routine and how is one more effective than the other, and just how much more effective.?
Its all to do with reps and rest, If your gonna cut, every single part of your training should be focussed towards that, which is what I meant by not focussing 100% on one specific goal.
I wouldnt worry about going catabolic overnight, though if you are concerned, Casein protein just before sleep would take care of that.
Dunno what was with me today.. Couldn't get enough to eat! Even now at 10:49pm I'm hungry, and will go get a drink of water and eat a couple sticks of celery and hope I fall asleep before the rumbles hit again..
I'll be double sure to stick to the plan tomorrow (2600 or less)..
I like that everything has a weight infront of it, now that you own a scale. Takes the guess work out.
At least your food is like 99.9% clean
__________________ 2009: No races, No times. Slow year. So, now you're 96 cals short. You're now in starvation mode. Doomed. - LostDog
Blog entry: November 1, 2009, Pancakes LiveSTRONG daily plate log