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Old 04-13-2009, 03:44 PM   #301 (permalink)
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Big meeting is tomorrow -- at least 10 hours long and should be interesting. We've all been asked to wear suit/tie... whatever. Today I'm wearing jeans and an untucked golf shirt, and I still outdressed the CEO, ha.

My title is finalized and the prez said he'll get me my new salary number soon. I'm ready. Been putting in the time for a while now and want this messy phase over with.

My presentation for tomorrow is finished, printed and handed out early to all attendees. Now I'm reviewing their presentations, which is actually sort of a mental break from the weeks of frantic activity.

I spent six hours in the office again on Saturday and worked at home last night. That stuff is over. I'm tired, unbalanced and ready to get healthy again.

To connect the dots with some prior themes in this thread, this is the first time in my life that I've overcome the self-sabotage pattern during a time of intense work focus. I got through it, and now rewards are coming. The ongoing challenge will be how to manage the new levels of responsibility and pressure without giving up the aspects of my life that I value above the office. Most of the things that make me a good employee and manager are things that I developed outside the work environment.
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Big meeting is tomorrow -- at least 10 hours long and should be interesting. We've all been asked to wear suit/tie... whatever. Today I'm wearing jeans and an untucked golf shirt, and I still outdressed the CEO, ha.

My title is finalized and the prez said he'll get me my new salary number soon. I'm ready. Been putting in the time for a while now and want this messy phase over with.

My presentation for tomorrow is finished, printed and handed out early to all attendees. Now I'm reviewing their presentations, which is actually sort of a mental break from the weeks of frantic activity.

I spent six hours in the office again on Saturday and worked at home last night. That stuff is over. I'm tired, unbalanced and ready to get healthy again.

To connect the dots with some prior themes in this thread, this is the first time in my life that I've overcome the self-sabotage pattern during a time of intense work focus. I got through it, and now rewards are coming. The ongoing challenge will be how to manage the new levels of responsibility and pressure without giving up the aspects of my life that I value above the office. Most of the things that make me a good employee and manager are things that I developed outside the work environment.
Sounds like a challenge but you know where the difficulties lie; half the battle is already won.
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Here's hoping that I get to see you tonight!

I hope you meeting is a HYUGE success! You're the best and as the children noticed, you looked great in your suit!
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My best friend at work just left the building for the last time. He didn't come by my office on the way out and I understand.

One-third of the company will be gone before the day is done. Tough day.

My promotion gets announced tomorrow. Mixed feelings but in the long term I know things will work out.
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Ohhhh... So sorry about the day. Black Wed sux.
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Hope you and everyone you care about come out the other side ok.
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My best friend at work just left the building for the last time. He didn't come by my office on the way out and I understand.

One-third of the company will be gone before the day is done. Tough day.

My promotion gets announced tomorrow. Mixed feelings but in the long term I know things will work out.
Ouch.

Hard to be excited when others are hurting, but you've worked hard for this. Hang in there.
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Thanks gang. I survived the day.

It was rough but now the real work can begin to turn the company around. I can also get back to being a complete human being. Over the past month I've become fatter, weaker and richer. Good thing I'm not getting shorter, or I'd be on the sure path to become a clone of Steve Wozniak.

Tomorrow night is date night with RedWifey! Her parents are taking the kids for a sleepover, so we're going out to a real dinner and then visiting a chocolatier that we've heard raves about. Then Saturday morning we're driving to Louisiana for my cousin's wedding.

Next week -- golf tourney on Monday, work like crazy Tue/Wed/Thu, then on Thursday night fly to Arkansas for a special event honoring my grandad. I land in LR just before 6pm, pick up a rental car, and speed my way to a symphony 40 miles north of there that starts at 7pm.

My grandad taught music at the university level for 40 years, and he also led the marching band for most of that time. He was often overheard whistling a little tune he made up. That tune has been incorporated into a performance for Friday night. I can't wait to hear it, and to share that moment with him and the rest of the family.

One day at a time, though! Tomorrow has enough trouble of its own.
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Which Chocolatier????
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http://chocolat-du-monde.com/index.php

Looking closer at it now, it doesn't look like they actually make much, if any, chocolate there at the store. But there's an awesome selection of stuff from all over the world.

p.s. -- Roland, I tried the sea salt dark chocolate from World Market a while ago. You were right. Tonguegasm.
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Still it has to be better than the stuff I had at the Chocolate bar. I was really disappointed.

World Market *perK* on of my favorite places to shop
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*bump* How was the chocolate????
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*bump* How was the chocolate????
Closed. Didn't check their hours beforehand, but it was fine cuz we headed to The Cheesecake Factory instead. Dinner was at Two Rows.

I'm pissed off tonight. The prez and the HR Director came into my office to tell me the new salary number... not impressive. Completely demotivating, actually. The raise is less than what I'm giving up in commissions by taking a management-heavy role that will keep me off the phones. So now I have more responsibility, twice as many direct reports, four lines of business to support, plus I'm leading the Director team... while making less than them, and potentially less than I was making before the "promotion". My base salary is also less than one of my new direct reports.

The only potential upside is the commission plan for the three new lines of business I'm managing. Could be great, could be tiny. I specifically asked about it during our meeting, and the answer was "We haven't even started that yet. We'll need you to trust us, and we'll make it retroactive if you start closing deals soon."

The prez is out of town for a few days now, but I'm going to the HR Director tomorrow to discuss this some more. Today the prez didn't have time for anything other than a handshake and telling me the salary number.

This isn't over yet.

Yes, I'm the big jerk who kept his job and even got a promotion right after a massive layoff, but still complains and is dusting off his resume. If I have more long hours to look forward to, I can make a hell of a lot more money somewhere else.
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Wow, that sucks! I would've hoped they'd make you a nice offer! I hope they realize you're not happy with it and they increase it - maybe it's just a starting point for negotiations?
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Here's to hoping it's a "misunderstanding" and they come around.

I guess it's possible that they looked at a number on paper compared to your old base number on paper and thought they were giving you a sweet deal, and therefore will realize once you point out to them how it's not that they need to change it.

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"Hallelujah... where's the tylenol?" is right, dude.

This has been a good lesson, though. I've worked countless hours over the past six weeks. Nights, weekends... heck, I worked three hours on Easter Sunday. Didn't pay off.

In the future that only makes sense if I'm working for myself, or if it's necessary to ensure my job in a time of financial duress. In this case neither of those is true, and it doesn't make sense for me to keep giving so much of myself to the job.

I need to exercise again, see my kids more, go on more dates, play piano again, get back to writing...

The line in the sand is being drawn over the next few days, and for a while I don't intend on the office getting near that line.
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I am not even one bit surprised. I think we all do this one or even more times in our 30s. Life is about balance. Go find yours buddy! Sorry about the big screw over.
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I was really hoping this wouldn't be the case for you. I just have seen it SO many times, and so rarely does it come out with the proper reward, (or even close). Still hoping for ya…
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Spoke to the HR Director about the situation -- she seemed genuinely surprised and sorry. She said what Aoife mentioned ("it looked good on paper...").

This whole realignment process has been pushed through with explicit and constant repetition of the mantra, "data, fact and logic" to make business decisions. We've also done everything very openly and collaboratively. And now when it comes time to set a payscale for a promotion, it gets pulled out of ass in a vacuum. I mentioned that I simply want to sit down and discuss the data and logic behind the pay number, and that overall I anticipate an increase due to the promotion. So far, though, the base pay raise barely covers the decreased commissions I'll be bringing in. Prez gets back next week and hopefully we can discuss it then.

I have a reserved parking spot now, though. How much money should that equate to?
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Priceless? Or is that not logical


Hope the president is open-minded. Seems to me that if you present the data (hours, effort, responsibility, what you USED to make), they should adjust their offer upwards... Good luck!
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Back in the 80s, I once got a raise & netted less as it popped me up a tax bracket. That sucked.

Hope this is just bad logic/poorly informed decisions by the compensation team and not a portent of bad decision making in general. Although failure to understand your current compensation (all sources) when making you an offer smacks of inattention - plus - is this what they would offer someone from outside to take the job with the responsibilities that you have? If not - then again, the compensation people are not living in the real world. Which is not a good thing.
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Way to come back to the right side man!!! Now go home and hug a kiddo, squeeze a booby, find balance!
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