I'm wincing in sympathy just reading about you hobbling around. Hope you feel better soon. And you have every reason to be proud of how you raised your daughter. Her attitude is awesome.
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And on a completely different note, today I heard for the first time in my 45 years on this planet a woman actually say that she thought her body was perfect. I am proud to say this woman is my 26 year old daughter. I was floored to hear her say that. In her case it is actually true. She has always had the most amazing body but for her to recognize that is really something. All the other women I know who have amazing bodies spend all day long picking apart the flaws. Anyway... Just thought I would share that little treasure. It does exist girls... Women who really are happy with their bodies.
You're right you know, very few women are ever happy with their bodies. It doesn't seem to matter where they are, they just feel that they need to be somewhere else. I'm glad that she's figured out what most don't.
Hey I am glad you are still around here if even just to lurk. We are not all judgemental to skinny folks... LOL! My daugher is nearly 5'4" and only weighs about 115lbs. I have had people tell me her whole life that she has food issues.
You and many others are watching this cut. Last time I did a cut my log hits increased significantly. I expect the same to happen this time. The cut is always more fascinating it seems. I'll try to be good and keep the log pretty up to date...
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Indeed, very rare: you can be a proud mom!
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Your daughter sounds amazing - what a gift to have a perfect body and acknowledge it too...
(When I was 18 and weighed 105# I still didn't think I looked good!)
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You're right you know, very few women are ever happy with their bodies. It doesn't seem to matter where they are, they just feel that they need to be somewhere else. I'm glad that she's figured out what most don't.
Thanks Ladies and I hear ya on the 105lb and still thinking you look fat thing. It is ridiculous how hard we are on ourselves. To put this all in perspective though my daughter really does have a close-to-perfect body. I am sure there is a flaw somewhere but I can't seem to find it. She is very genetically blessed. My friends and I used to tease her and put fake spells on her that her left boob would drop (just the left one). It really isn't fair for one person to have all that luck... Still it was really nice to hear her acknowledge and appreciate her gifts.
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I'm wincing in sympathy just reading about you hobbling around. Hope you feel better soon. And you have every reason to be proud of how you raised your daughter. Her attitude is awesome.
Today is better. I can actually perform a bw squat with only a little teeth gritting. I am led to believe that I should go do my workout even though I am in pain so tonight I hit legs again. I will either be completely crippled tomorrow and Sunday or it will be better. (crossing my fingers....)
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I read on some forum that you should workout even if you have DOMs so that is what I did tonight. My quads are just barely recovered from Monday. I found that I could walk on the flat almost perfectly normal today after a few steps and it was only downhill or downstairs that hurt a lot. So it was in the gym for leg day as soon as work at Intel was over. LOL! When I looked at myself in the mirror in my shorts I was shocked at how swollen and fat my legs looked. No vascularity tonight...
I pulled up to my favorite squat rack alongside of a skinny guy, and did a set with just the bar. After the initial shocking pain of the first 3 or so I felt pretty good. So I threw on the big plates and hit set 2. I finished set 2 with a pretty serious ripping/cramping pain in my left quad muscle. So I took a longer than normal 90 sec break and walked it out. I considered bagging the workout but then got pissed off and just hit it instead. I did another at 135 and then some partials at 184 and then did a final set of front squats with the bar ATG just because. I confess it hurt like hell but I was showing up the skinny guy and I couldn't help it. LOL! The rest of the workout I was in some deal of pain and pissed off about that which made my motivation, my focus and my strength rock'n out. A little bit of pain gives an athlete an awesome edge. By the end of the workout my quads were numb and hot. I will either be completely crippled tomorrow or will be better than I have been. We'll see. I am determined to use these legs for some sort of moving this weekend so my money is on better. In the meanwhile, minus the quad exercises I had a KICK-ASS workout. One of the trainers passed by me and commented how it was cool to see a woman who was not afraid to lift heavy. LOL!! It was just one of those nights at 24 Hour fitness where I was bigger than most the guys and stronger too. Tomorrow I will be at the bbing gym and I will be tiny again. But for tonight I RULE! (yeah for skinny guys)
NOTES: 1st exerces 2 warmup sets one light, one mod and 3 sets to failure 2nd exercise 1 warmup mod and 3 sets to failure
I completely blew it today on food. It was a programming/planning error from this morning. I calulated 90g of fat instead of 70 for the day. Whoops. I was wondering why I felt so good all day about the food. I was really not hungry all day.... Dooop.
Goals on workout day: 2350, 230P, 200C, 70F Goals on REST day: 2150, 230P, 150C, 70F
Date
Workout
Weight
Total Cals
Protein
Carbs
Fat
Last night sleep in hours
Fish Oil
Vitamin
Friday, October 24, 2008
R
124.00
2387.1
230
169
87.9
NA
NA
NA
Friday, November 28, 2008
R
129.30
2327.7
223
158
89.3
NA
NA
NA
Friday, December 26, 2008
x
130.20
2675
242
213
95
NA
NA
NA
Friday, January 30, 2009
R
134.60
2450.3
229
175
92.7
NA
NA
NA
Transition Phase
Monday, February 16, 2009
x
135.40
2436.4
235
204
75.6
7.5
Yes
Yes
Tuesday, February 17, 2009
x
135.20
2414.3
234
206
72.7
6.5
Yes
Yes
Wednesday, February 18, 2009
R
134.80
2147.4
235
152
66.6
4.5
Yes
Yes
Thursday, February 19, 2009
R
135.20
2213.9
234
164
69.1
6.5
Yes
Yes
Friday, February 20, 2009
x
135.00
2549.9
238
199
89.1
6.5
Yes
Yes
And Final bit of wonderful news. Alan has agreed to allow me to ride my bike and run. I can even do this in an endurance type fashion if I want to. Of course I have to feed these events and he has given me complete guidelines on how to do that. His solution (also of course) involves chocolate milk, so I'll be powered by chocolate milk throughout this cut whenever I put my running or biking or hiking shoes on. I am totally thrilled about this. With the weather turning really nice I was starting to really lust for the outdoor exercise. He doesn't seem to think it will hurt my goals at all if I nurish it properly! Yeah!
NOW this will be a fascintating cut even for me to watch. With the addition of this allowed extra activities it will be a real art to keeping the energy, LBM and balance in my training.
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Yay for being able to do again in spring what you love : cycle & run!
As for the DOMS. It's still a new territory for me, as I never used to get any in my endurance days nor in the low-carb days.. but now, it can sometimes ruin my next workout. I'm not as tough as you so thats why my current routine needs to be changed.
Anyway, to explain things, I've always loved loved doing a full body workout matrix with alternating rep ranges.. originally it started like this:
legs heavy (5x5) - chest medium (3x8)- back light (2x15)
chest heavy (5x5)- back medium (3x8) - legs light (2x15)-
back heavy (5x5) - legs medium (3x8)- chest light (2x15)
The idea was that if you trained a body part heavily with 5x5 , you'd do well to train them lightly in the next WO to keep the blood flowing & diminish DOMS.
Now I'm sometimes wondering if it would be better to follow up a heavy-ish workout immediately with a light set in the same workout and then leave it alone the next time.. or just split it up: only 1 light set in the same workout and then another light set in the next one.
Your thoughts are appreciated!
My prediction is that your last workout helped with DOMS and isn't making it worse.
He sais I can do cardio IF I cannot live without it but I had to very specifically give him days and amounts and types.
...but still I am worried that I bought the Kirkland, "Turn you into an Alien" daily mutli-vitamins instead of the regular kind. I didn't really read the fine print so you never know. Again waiting for reply...
I'm curious to see what he says, Karla. I think we all wonder where that line is....
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Yay for being able to do again in spring what you love : cycle & run!
As for the DOMS. It's still a new territory for me, as I never used to get any in my endurance days nor in the low-carb days.. but now, it can sometimes ruin my next workout. I'm not as tough as you so thats why my current routine needs to be changed.
Anyway, to explain things, I've always loved loved doing a full body workout matrix with alternating rep ranges.. originally it started like this:
legs heavy (5x5) - chest medium (3x8)- back light (2x15)
chest heavy (5x5)- back medium (3x8) - legs light (2x15)-
back heavy (5x5) - legs medium (3x8)- chest light (2x15)
The idea was that if you trained a body part heavily with 5x5 , you'd do well to train them lightly in the next WO to keep the blood flowing & diminish DOMS.
Now I'm sometimes wondering if it would be better to follow up a heavy-ish workout immediately with a light set in the same workout and then leave it alone the next time.. or just split it up: only 1 light set in the same workout and then another light set in the next one.
Your thoughts are appreciated!
My prediction is that your last workout helped with DOMS and isn't making it worse.
Yep! Legs are better today not worse. In fact I don't seem to have any pain at all. Weird and Whew... I really was worried when I pulled up lame after that 2nd set. Now I know that you can work through DOMs even if it is really painful and come out okay later. Right now Alan's plan is that I do a 5x5 set on the first day of the week and then a 4x9 set on the second day that I do that body part for that week. Sounds similar to what you are saying above. When I came back from my rest week I thought I would switch the order since lifting more weights = lighter weights and all. That was a BIG mistake and is what caused my DOMs I think. Also remember that my current program makes sure that I hit each body part 2 times a week so I don't rest in between for more than 3 days at any time.
Alan did make mention that when I start my cut I was going to be doing both high and low reps in one workout. I don't know what that means yet though exactly. Guess we'll have to wait for another week and find out.
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I'm curious to see what he says, Karla. I think we all wonder where that line is....
With respect to the green piss. It is harmless and I should not worry about it. Alan told me that double vitamins on workout days is a precaution. (I did not ask yet against what) I just know it is a precaution...
According to Alan I cannot hurt myself doing cario in my cut provided that I properly nurish any work that I do. Now the guidelines that he gave me for nurishment per hour of work are going to make it very hard for me to run a marathon or anything. I would have to get an equivilent of 1 gallon of liquid calories in me for a 4 hour run. I think that would make me puke. LOL!! So it is somewhat self regulating the way he has it laid out. I will be able to do a 1-2 hour thing pretty easily though and a 3-4 hour thing with a longish break somewhere (to digest). Alan was caught a bit off guard by my request to actually run or ride outside of the gym but says he is familiar with this weird mindset from his other endurance athletes. He says that he has a lust for grunting and lifting heavy things and can only marvel at people who actually enjoy endurance type events. LOL! Typical bber type male.
Alan is the FIRST trainer I have talked to who thinks that one can manage both and that my running or riding will not sabatoge my bbing goals. He aslo said that it is as important for us to train so that the mind is happy as it is to train the body. I think that is a cool philosophy.
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I've found that awful DOMS (the "I can't go up or down the stairs without crying" type) is sometimes relieved by pushing through and working out - but I don't know that I'd have gone full-out like you did!
OTOH, I can have a pretty vicious (and self-destructive) competitive streak every once in a while, and if that means I have to show-up a skinny guy (especially one spouting bro-knowledge), then... oh well, a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do!
LOL. Not that I don't have a competitive mindset at all, but it's not as likely to happen in a gym setting. Instead, those things would happen when I was by myself on the bicycle.. unaware of the difficulties of circumstances just gritting teeth and pushing through.
If anything, being with others would even make me feel helpless and DNF more easily. That's just the way it works.
I just found your log! I spend most of my time in the challenge log section and forget to check the regular training log section. I had no idea you had started a new log. I just read the entire thing from the beginning, so I am caught up. And you lied about this being a slow-moving log. I'll be checking in daily...except maybe for next week when I'll be hanging out with my girls in Eugene. Maybe even then during down time, I'll bet.
I just found your log! I spend most of my time in the challenge log section and forget to check the regular training log section. I had no idea you had started a new log. I just read the entire thing from the beginning, so I am caught up. And you lied about this being a slow-moving log. I'll be checking in daily...except maybe for next week when I'll be hanging out with my girls in Eugene. Maybe even then during down time, I'll bet.
Oh you'll find time to check up. This place is addicting. LOL! It is a slow moving log compared to my last one though I did make a promise to keep this one a bit more up to date for the cut. Glad to see you here and if you guys come up to Portland give me a ring.
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That's why Alan is my mancrush, at least at a personality level. Physically he's too short and has a ween so that doesn't do it for me.
LOL! I could not be happier right now and I am so glad I contacted and hired him for this year's journey. At first I questioned if it would work or be a good idea but each week it seems I have these amazing learnings. I would never do so well on my own. It is Sunday and I am going to take my doggie for a 6 mile jog in just a short while. I am wondering how my body is going to react to a jog. Life is GOOD!
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LOL. Not that I don't have a competitive mindset at all, but it's not as likely to happen in a gym setting. Instead, those things would happen when I was by myself on the bicycle.. unaware of the difficulties of circumstances just gritting teeth and pushing through.
If anything, being with others would even make me feel helpless and DNF more easily. That's just the way it works.
I am LEO and filled with LEO ego so there ya have it. Additionally I have enough testosterone to grow decent muscle AND be really stupid sometimes. LOL! While walking off the pretty sharp pain in my left quad muscle I was fully aware that my ego and test were speaking louder than my common sense. That said it paid off. I was significantly better the next day. In fact nearly 100%.
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Chocolate milk - YUM!!!!!!!!
I've found that awful DOMS (the "I can't go up or down the stairs without crying" type) is sometimes relieved by pushing through and working out - but I don't know that I'd have gone full-out like you did!
OTOH, I can have a pretty vicious (and self-destructive) competitive streak every once in a while, and if that means I have to show-up a skinny guy (especially one spouting bro-knowledge), then... oh well, a girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do!
Isn't the chocolate milk directive just da bomb! I get to drink chocolate milk in my cut!! Happy dance. And yeah.... What a girl's gotta do... ROTFLMAO!!!
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So it paid off BIG TIME! I got up yesterday and the DOMs was nearly completely gone. It was weird how much better my quads were. After a week of being in so much pain it was so nice to feel normal again.
Yesterday I was hanging out with David and we lifted upper at 24 together. David is a great spot and with him helping me to intitially lift the dbs, I was able to press 60s for 8 reps no problem! This is exciting because at the end of my last bulk I could only press 50s with his help.
I had a woosh on the scale yesterday and woke up weighing in at 133.4 lbs. Today I am back to 135.4. So scale jumping a bit but trending downwards in this transition time. I am struggling with this time because I SO want to just drop the calories and lose the weight and be done with this. I am also getting "happy feet" and really want to move now that I am on the cut. I think my desire to run, jump, bike is part mental because I think it will somehow help. I don't know. I just want to be ript again already....
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What effect do you think the extra cardio will have: make you more or less hungry?
Longer SS cardio would always kill appetite for a longer period but it would come back with a vengeance. Since drinking more carbs during a workout, this effect has gone away and appetite would come back sooner.
Since you're feeding your cardio now too (chocolate milk!) , it might make cutting more , not less difficult. I do wonder how your stomach will take to the milk. It might look attractive if you love chocolate but I truly question if you'd be able to run on it... you might get too nauseous.
So it paid off BIG TIME! I got up yesterday and the DOMs was nearly completely gone. It was weird how much better my quads were. After a week of being in so much pain it was so nice to feel normal again.
Yesterday I was hanging out with David and we lifted upper at 24 together. David is a great spot and with him helping me to intitially lift the dbs, I was able to press 60s for 8 reps no problem! This is exciting because at the end of my last bulk I could only press 50s with his help.
I had a woosh on the scale yesterday and woke up weighing in at 133.4 lbs. Today I am back to 135.4. So scale jumping a bit but trending downwards in this transition time. I am struggling with this time because I SO want to just drop the calories and lose the weight and be done with this. I am also getting "happy feet" and really want to move now that I am on the cut. I think my desire to run, jump, bike is part mental because I think it will somehow help. I don't know. I just want to be ript again already....
I was wishing for a woosh today, but it went the other way. I have to say that following your progress is really going to help me keep on track. I feel like if you can do it, damn it, why can't I? I can really feel your eagerness and excitement to get the fat off. But really, in the pics you can barely tell you put on fat. To hear you talk about all this fat then to see the pics is crazy--you just look a bit more muscular but not much fatter at all. But I understand...it how it feels on your body more than anything. You look great either way.
What effect do you think the extra cardio will have: make you more or less hungry?
Definately tanks the appetite. Don't know how I am going to make this one work...
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Do you get to eat doughnuts with the chocolate milk. That's a program I could get behind.
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I'm so there...
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The chocolate milk doesn't interest me, but the doughnuts.... perhaps.
Actually I don't think Alan would mind if I ate donuts provided I can get them into my macro guidelines. I have 150-200g a day of carbs that I can eat and he says to try to keep the garbage carbs to about 20% of that. I could get a krispy creme in there or two if I wanted. LOL!
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I was wishing for a woosh today, but it went the other way. I have to say that following your progress is really going to help me keep on track. I feel like if you can do it, damn it, why can't I? I can really feel your eagerness and excitement to get the fat off. But really, in the pics you can barely tell you put on fat. To hear you talk about all this fat then to see the pics is crazy--you just look a bit more muscular but not much fatter at all. But I understand...it how it feels on your body more than anything. You look great either way.
I am learning to appreciate this curvy side of me with each bulk I do. That said I am looking forward to my sub 15% body again. Once you get down to the lower ranges of bf% you are ruined for life as everything else looks fat on you. And how many times do I have to tell you guys that the camera doesn't pick up what my mind sees!! Seriously, the camera does a poor job of seeing the smaller changes that we all see.
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In honor of my first run I have created a new AVI and included my running partner Sherman the Schnauzer. The run was incredible and as awesome as I ever remember runs being. The air was cool and the sun was out. Mother Nature was spectacular like only she can be on the run. At one point we were running this long stretch on the rural highway and in the vast fields next to us was a coyote running pace with us. He was in pursuit of something. I ran a nice and easy 10K at about an 11 min per mile pace. Actually I ran 3.5 of the miles at an 11 min per mile pace and then Sherman started to get tired so I slowed way down for him. I felt fine. When I got home I slammed choclate milk and whey as per direction. It tasted yummy.
That is the good news.
Bad news is
1. This run absolutely destroyed my desire to eat for the rest of the day. I did not eat too much before the run because I was excited. Net result is that I have about 400 calories to eat in the next 2 hours and my gut is so full it is going to explode already. I don't think I am going to make it. Karla finally fell off the wagon. So now I think I understand how it was that I destroyed my metabolism. Cardio seems to destroy my appetite and lifting makes me hungry as hell. Before I always did just cardio and so it was easy for me to not eat much. Perhaps there is good news in this discovery and now I only have to find the right balance between these things. I don't know... If I can just jam in the last little bit of food then all will be well for the night. If not I have to report the failure.... Right now things are looking bad. Fuck... I hate this daily reporting thing....
2. My quads are killing me again. I mean really bad. They did not hurt on the run but I cannot even get out of my chair now. Alan responded to my report about working through DOMs that he did not agree with that decision. He told me to stretch... Is running a 10k sort of like stretching?
This is all going to be interesting....
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Karla, did you run almost every day in the past?
Cycling longer distances would ruin appetite for that day , but it would come back w a vengeance. Lifting increases appetite on the same day already, unless the session is very long and not fed.
Maybe you could take something to eat with you, even though the distance isn't very long as I am thinking the appetite quenching effect is mostly due to not having food with you , while exercising heavily.
Karla, do you have a foam roller? Are you doing some static stretching (in the evenings before bed watching TV)? Both will really really help with DOMS.
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Very interesting about being allowed the runs and bikes. I am no where near your level of fitness and dedication, but I questioned if my steady state runs were hurting my fat loss efforts not too long ago. The conclusion I came to is that I am not low enough BF to worry about that yet. So I am glad to hear that you are able to do what makes you happy. I CAN NOT WAIT to get back outside. I miss it so much. I will have to live vicariously through your descriptions
How about adding some interval work to your runs. I find that slower mid mileage runs do nothing for my appetite as well, but high speed intervals and steady state runs of over 1.5 hours really make me hungry. Obviously don't do any of these before your base is back up. I am working on the same thing right now as well.
I have yet to find ANYTHING that tanks my appetite
Seriously though - the run sounds great and your avi is wonderful... it's funny how we both seem to wish for a trade in some aspects - I'd be glad to eat as much as you eat, and you're still welcome to my fat any time you want it!
Maybe you could take something to eat with you, even though the distance isn't very long as I am thinking the appetite quenching effect is mostly due to not having food with you , while exercising heavily.
I ran A LOT in the past. Not sure if every day but A LOT. I tried once to eat on the run. It gave me the runs. LOL! I did it for a 1/2 marathon run I did one day. It did not work so well. Also the amount of nurtritional requirementst that Alan laid out for me is pretty substantial. I really don't believe it is practical for anyone to consume so much per hour of exercise...
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Karla, do you have a foam roller? Are you doing some static stretching (in the evenings before bed watching TV)? Both will really really help with DOMS.
You know I really do appreciate and love you man. It never fails if I have any pain or ache that you seem to find it and offer your advice. Thanks a million Julie. I have a foam roller and will use it tonight. I did some stretching last night but will do more tonight. Today legs are significantly better but I can definately feel them still.
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Very interesting about being allowed the runs and bikes. I am no where near your level of fitness and dedication, but I questioned if my steady state runs were hurting my fat loss efforts not too long ago. The conclusion I came to is that I am not low enough BF to worry about that yet. So I am glad to hear that you are able to do what makes you happy. I CAN NOT WAIT to get back outside. I miss it so much. I will have to live vicariously through your descriptions
I don't believe that ss cardio can hurt fat loss under very many circumstances. I have some pretty strict eating requirements that I have to hit every day so that complicates my situation a bit. Also I think that body comp at lower bf% levels is trickier (as you already said). We'll see what Alan has to say if I get to continue this or not...
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Karla,
How about adding some interval work to your runs. I find that slower mid mileage runs do nothing for my appetite as well, but high speed intervals and steady state runs of over 1.5 hours really make me hungry. Obviously don't do any of these before your base is back up. I am working on the same thing right now as well.
I am currently waiting to see what Alan says to do now. I love having him in control but in situations like this it means I can't just jump around and try different things at will. I have to wait for direction... You know I am watching you though.
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Love the new avi!
Lots of interesting stuff going on in here, as usual!! And talk of chocolate milk and krispy kremes!! YUM!
Very cool about the coyote in the field!
Thanks for stopping by!
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Yeah but's she's cutting.. OTOH, Karla is SO disciplined she'd probably rather be too hungry than not hungry at all, while on a cut.. right?
Why not do SS cardio and then finish it off with a sprint back home (for the food & shower)?
Uh... why can't we just be satisfied for a freak'n change? I mean really!??! I am a bit pissed off right now because it feels like I am happy with nothing I do. I am also restless as hell to start and that also is playing into my emotions. I just want to freak'n get on with the cut already. I am not liking this transition phase. It seems like such a useless thing...
Now all this said I think my body prefers hunger to being over-full. My mind is more clear and focused when I have hunger or pain (see above workout) so I am more productive typically. So yeah that is why I like the cut better than the bulk. That said it is a fine line when the hunger gets so great that all focus and all attempt at being productive is futile.
So you tell me. Is it physical that my body really likes hunger? Prolly not. It is probably more mental. Looking back, I should have just sucked it up and eaten the 400-500 cals that I was missing yesterday. It would have caused me to feel poorly for some hours. I just did not have the heart for it and in my mind I should be cutting anyway... So the cut itself is easier for me but controlling the cut and keeping the LBM I think is going to be a LOT harder than even I imagined.
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I have yet to find ANYTHING that tanks my appetite
Seriously though - the run sounds great and your avi is wonderful... it's funny how we both seem to wish for a trade in some aspects - I'd be glad to eat as much as you eat, and you're still welcome to my fat any time you want it!
NO THANKS on the fat thing. You know my calorie burn rate doesn't seem to be too far off from most people actually. I love all these GFW users because I can compare what they are seeing. From what I can tell most of the girls are burning over 2K a day most days. Some people were leading me to believe that I was freakishly high daily burn.
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Still it was really nice to hear her acknowledge and appreciate her gifts. 
Don't know how I am going to make this one work...
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