This increased appetite is for another reason good news, since it means you're on the mend. I've always had crazy appetite after having been sick for close to a week on the first day of complete recovery
As for strategies, it's not I don't have or implement them.. actually do this all the time. It's just that I rarely if ever go out for dinner & which throws me a loop (?) for both guessing the macros I've had (trying to be more or less exact even when overfeeding) and the big Q whether or not I'll be compliant. In this sense you really are different as you are the one that sticks to her plan as well as she can, while my intentions are great but often just stay.. intentions.
That's OK. Be well! Lift strong, stay on the plan. Otherwise, my lab is going to start emailing you diet advice and we already know that is sub optimal.
Thanks Tom... Am still on plan and being good. LOL about your lab sending me diet advice. That is just exactly what I need.
It is only 8:20PM and I have consumed all my food for the day but I am sure I will make it 'cause I will go to bed if I get too hungry. Today I was eating my pre workout meal in the car (more like woofing it down I was so hungry) and I dropped a piece of pineapple. I nearly cried cause it got all dirty on the ground just outside my car door. That was (at least) a gram of carbs that I lost there. LOL! How can I be so irrational lately? The scary part about all of this is that I am still relatively high body fat. I should not be this nutzo yet. I do silly shit like stand at the free fruit stands at work and stare at the fruits for freak'n ever to make sure that I pick the very best apple or orange that I can find in the tubs. Everyone else is just walking past and grabbing one without a second thought but I have to get the biggest and the juiciest 'cause I know I can't go back for round two until the next day.... It is really sicko behaviour.
On the up side of things. I saw a six-pack today in my bathroom mirror. The light has to be just right but it is definately there. I have the upper part of the abs popping out pretty nicely (much nicer than last year). The lower part and low back still has a lot of fat but the top part is coming in. I also have striations popping out in the shoulders and in the forearms too. I was a little bloaty today but still see that there is progress happening. I don't get it and I am not sure if I am insane or seeing things but the visions are keeping me relatively sane so I am going with them.
I am in all day training classes this week for my job. It is in an Intel building that has several cafes and a gym. This is nice 'cause I don't have to pack so much food and I can just workout right there too. Corporate gyms are funny. Lots of skinny guys. Had an okay workout and even set some records for volume in a few lifts. I also went down in some of my lifts. Not sure what that is all about but it is what it is. It could have something to do with all this recovery stuff that you guys keep talking about...
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I am in all day training classes this week for my job. It is in an Intel building that has several cafes and a gym. This is nice 'cause I don't have to pack so much food and I can just workout right there too. Corporate gyms are funny. Lots of skinny guys. Had an okay workout and even set some records for volume in a few lifts. I also went down in some of my lifts. Not sure what that is all about but it is what it is. It could have something to do with all this recovery stuff that you guys keep talking about...
It's Intel... of course they're skinny guys. Bringing free weights to Intel is about as useful as bringing brisket to Paris Hilton.
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It's Intel... of course they're skinny guys. Bringing free weights to Intel is about as useful as bringing brisket to Paris Hilton.
LOL! Seriously why do you think I like to go there? (Same reason I like going to China) I'm big. HA HA... You'd think that with a company as large as that one that there would be SOME athletic people in the gym. Not tonight. The interesting thing is the Dumbells go up to 90lb. I think that beats PF.
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Had a great dinner last night with a dear friend and his son. It was a thai restaraunt but it has some exotic foods there. We bought several dishes and shared them. One of the dishes was boar. LOL! I did not freak out about the calories so much. I just tried to eat mostly proteins and also only ate until I was full and then stopped. So when I got home I tried my best to fill out my cals and macros on the day based on my best guesstimates for what meats like Boar might be. When all was said and done I wrapped up my report and emailed it to Alan (about 9:30PM). I think I was close to my target calories for the day but my protein was 25 g short. I got my reply within a very short time and he dogs me for low protein! 25 tiny little grams mind you! So I ate another meal before going to bed.
This is all significant because this is the weirdest ass cut I have ever heard of. Sometimes it freaks me out a little but most of the time I am just in awe of it all. I am actually eating quite a bit of food every day. The scale is totally stuck in place but my body is changing. I can see abs now and not just in good light anymore.
I am growing in my knowledge and mental powers too. Not too long ago that email reply would have sent me in a complete spin out. I would have freaked out about having to eat more when I was in a cut. I wasn't happy to have to eat but it did not freak me out at all. When I was up 1.5lbs this morning on the scale, I did not even begin to freak out. Truth is my body is looking pretty awesome right now even with the extra 1.5 lbs.
I am also starting to realize that Alan is going to bring me into my first show as a Heavy!! I have no doubt in my mind now that he can do this given that we have another mini-bulk before then and we are going to have to strategize around this somehow. In my mind that is an incredible feat. I am a pretty "tiny" person by nature and in the cut I get really, really tiny. In fact one trainer I know predicted that I could hit the stage as a lightweight!
This time as I drop down in bf% I am staying pretty muscled and it doesn't look as bad to me. In fact I honestly think we are going to hit an 8-10lb net mass gain this year. When I first started looking at trainers to help me prep for my first show many of them were confident they could put 10lbs on me. I had no doubt that could be done either. I gain meat fairly easily. But when I asked them how they were gonna keep it none of them could really answer me to my satisfaction. That is when it occured to me to look at nutritionists instead. Bonus to me that I find one who is knowledgable about bbing and training too.
Overall am in pretty good spirits today. Tomorrow I will hate my body and the plan and everything again, but for today... things look pretty good!
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On the up side of things. I saw a six-pack today in my bathroom mirror. The light has to be just right but it is definately there. I have the upper part of the abs popping out pretty nicely (much nicer than last year). The lower part and low back still has a lot of fat but the top part is coming in. I also have striations popping out in the shoulders and in the forearms too. I was a little bloaty today but still see that there is progress happening. I don't get it and I am not sure if I am insane or seeing things but the visions are keeping me relatively sane so I am going with them.
Hey, those kind of visions I can use. Great you are seeing results! Personally, I think we should all have a lighting guy following us around making sure that we are all illuminated properly. I spent about half an hour the other day when the light was coming in the window a certain way trying to get a picture of my 2-pack.
Go Karla! Pretty soon you're going to look like your avatar!
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Wow, that was a very upbeat post. Nice to hear...not that you're normally one to whine. I can't believe you got chastised for going under by 25 little grams of protein. I don't know much at all about the bb'ing world, but it does sound a little bizarre to imagine you competing as a heavy??? Is that strictly by weight? Well, that's a dumb question. It will be interesting to see how this all pans out. Very cool that you're seeing abs even in poor lighting.
The class for the show I am doing goes strictly by weight. Last season I was 118lbs and still at 12% bf. Noel (the local IFBB bbing trainer) was going to bring me in as a lightweight. (this is 114.5lbs and under) I was too unhappy with how little I got though and turned it around instead. No way I wanted to go on stage so little...
This year I it looks like I will be at or just under 125lbs (this is the cut-off for Heavies) and if I do another bulk (which I am planning) I will have to ensure I do not put on so much to go over the 125lb mark. At least that is what I am thinking today. The truth is that you never REALLY know until you cut all the way down just where you are. So when I am at 10% then we'll know for sure. Today it looks pretty good for me.
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Hey, those kind of visions I can use. Great you are seeing results! Personally, I think we should all have a lighting guy following us around making sure that we are all illuminated properly. I spent about half an hour the other day when the light was coming in the window a certain way trying to get a picture of my 2-pack.
HA HA! I have done that too in the past. Today I just sort of admire it. The bad thing is that I am going to get busted in the bathroom at work one day. I can't help but lift my shirt to look. LOL!
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Nice to see you in a much happier place.. LOL'd at the end about you going the other way again (hating body & plan)
I told Alan today that my mood swings are either from diet or menopause coming on but either way he was pretty much fucked! He he he...
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Go Karla! Pretty soon you're going to look like your avatar!
You mean Hulky-poo?
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*Remembers how switching two letters makes compliant complaint...*
Huh? I am being good right now. Not complaining at all. I even went back and made up those 25g for Mr Picky-pants. Seriously now I know... I can manipulate carbs and fats quite a bit in my plan but he is very serious about getting the protein in. He has told me this on more than one occasion so I should not have been surprised. I just did not know where the trigger was for "unacceptable". Now I know...
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One time I thought I saw abs but it was a package of hot dogs on my stomach. No idea how they got there.
HA HA! I don't have abs that look like hotdogs just yet. Only have the outline coming through and the stubborn lower fat is not quite as terrible.
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Hehehehe...poor Alan...he gets it all doesn't he? PMS....Menopause....mood swings....
Oh yeah... You could not pay me enough to do his job. LOL!
Today is another good day. I don't look bad to my eyes so am largely at peace. It is a rest day for me and I am in CA doing one of my one all-day field trips (jetting around) to hang out with my team down here. I had a decent workout last night and managed to pull 2x12x175 on Deads which was not horrible at all. The big thing for me about the workout was that I did not feel completely spent after doing it. I feel like I could have given more. That said, I am getting weaker to some degree even though I am setting PRs here and there. The fact is that I am largely not as kick-ass as I was in my bulk. Alan tells me to not expect to be that kick-ass. He said that for people going from overweight to normal that is fairly common/probable. People going from Lean to uber lean... Not really probable. This especially given my genetics I think.
The interesting thing about this to me is that all the gurus claim that this is possible with their special "pay for" diets to all clients. Ultimate Diet 2, Warp Speed, etc... I just have yet to see ANY convincing testimonial that supports these claims. The people that I have seen who claim they did not lose strength and are at sick lean levels are very suspect or of a very different demographic. So it may be the case that I will have to wrap my head around not being such a monster in the gym all the time anymore. Sure around some of my refeeds and/or carb ups but not overall. So now the question will be how much strength and LBM can I keep as I dip down, down, down? I am pretty excited about things actually when I compare it to where I was last year.
Alan has requested regular pic updates as we move into the prep phase of things. Great..... I had promised to do them anyway after I quit the challenges because they really are a good idea but I very much enjoyed not doing them the past couple of months...
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My neighbor just came over for a visit. (This is so cool) She said I look like shit! Why is this good news? It is because she HATES the way I look when I get below 15% bf. She says my face get drawn and I look skinny. Tonight she said I looked tired then she added and your face is drawn and you look skinny. I told her I was dropping bf% on purpose and she said she already knew 'cause it was very obvious to her. She hasn't seen me for 9 or so days. Yehaw, I look like shit! I am jumping up and down here for joy because secretly I was using this as my sign that things were okay. Bioimedence, Dexta, dunking and calibers all have error, but my neighbor knows when I look like shit to her eyes and there is no error there. LOL!
Here is my non-progress per the numbers.... LOL!
Goals (lower work days) 250P, 120C, 60F
Goals (upper work and rest days) 200P, 120C, 60F
Optional 1x a week Carb up = 230C on an upper work day
Date
workout
Weight
Total Cals
Protein
Carbs
Fat
sleep
Fish
Vit
Tuesday, March 03, 2009
x
137.70
2321.8
322
114
64.2
7
Yes
Yes
Tuesday, March 24, 2009
x
135.80
2137.5
250
119
73.5
6
Yes
Yes
Tuesday, April 14, 2009
x
132.40
2047.6
248
119
64.4
7
Yes
Yes
Tuesday, April 21, 2009
x
133.00
1648.9
188
116
48.1
4
Yes
Yes
Tuesday, April 28, 2009
x
133.00
1521.4
197
101
36.6
6
Yes
Yes
Tuesday, May 05, 2009
x
131.20
1761.8
201
122
52.2
7
Yes
Yes
Tuesday, May 12, 2009
R
130.40
1737.9
202
113
53.1
6
Yes
Yes
Tuesday, May 19, 2009
x
128.80
1895.2
206
131
60.8
7
Yes
Yes
Tuesday, May 26, 2009
x
130.80
1892.4
246
120
47.6
6
Yes
Yes
Tuesday, June 02, 2009
R
129.40
1436
169
91
44
5
Yes
Yes
Tuesday, June 09, 2009
x
130.60
1838.7
202
122
60.3
7
Yes
Yes
Wednesday, June 10, 2009
R
129.60
1892.7
203
112
70.3
6
Yes
Yes
Thursday, June 11, 2009
x
131.00
2007.5
245
123
59.5
5
Yes
Yes
Friday, June 12, 2009
R
131.40
1843.8
197
133
58.2
4
Yes
Yes
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My neighbor just came over for a visit. (This is so cool) She said I look like shit! Why is this good news? It is because she HATES the way I look when I get below 15% bf. She says my face get drawn and I look skinny. Tonight she said I looked tired then she added and your face is drawn and you look skinny. I told her I was dropping bf% on purpose and she said she already knew 'cause it was very obvious to her. She hasn't seen me for 9 or so days. Yehaw, I look like shit! I am jumping up and down here for joy because secretly I was using this as my sign that things were okay. Bioimedence, Dexta, dunking and calibers all have error, but my neighbor knows when I look like shit to her eyes and there is no error there. LOL!
Congratulations! I know how much that means to you. LOL.
Lol...does your neighbor know she made your day! Glad things are going the way you need them too...despite feeling weaker in the gym. Sometimes you have to sacrifice what you want for awhile in order to make progress.
He he he.... Guys I know it is funny (in a very sick and weird way) but when I decided last year to cut to sick lean bf% I was actually shocked at how drawn and wrinkled my face got. It actually was a little bit hard for me mentally. Now I am accepting the fate and am comfortable with it. I wish I could keep the boobs and the face fat but seems ya can't really do that in any natural way. Botox and Boob job would do it for me though.
Just returned from another weekend of working on rental property. Cut lawn, hacked and hauled bushes, packed msc furniture in truck for trip to Goodwill/dump, touched up paint, steam cleaned the carpets.... Am physically whipped. Had a pretty crappy upper workout in the middle of all of it. I suppose the activity played a part in that but am getting tired of having my ass handed to me in the gym
So am showered now and doing laundry and cooking food for the week. My own property is falling down around me right now and I have a week long classical guitar event with a very high pressured performance coming up. There is no rest in my future for at least 3 more weekends.... This is when the whole deficit thing really bites. I could use to feel a bit more energy right now. Besides I get these monster cravings and bitchy thoughts. I can hardly stand to walk through the bakery section of the stores anymore. The breads and pastery smells just about break me. I then get really grumpy and I just want to hit someone. I swear if I saw anyone actually eating something from there I'd smash them. I have NEVER had these sorts of cravings before though I have read about them plenty. It is a really sick and powerful thing.
On the "up" side of things... I ventured into the IFBB Pro's gym this weekend when I visited David. Noel is one of the most "bro" trainers I have ever run across. He is good in that he brings people to the stage and they win. He is also a judge so he knows bf% and he knows what it takes and how long it takes. Recently on another forum several of the folks in Noel's circle advised me to drop my carbs and start cardio. I argued that I would not and why. Noel backed up the bros and suggested I needed to get a clue. I keep a good relationship with Noel despite our differences because I do respect him for the stuff that he does know and I would like him to be my posing coach. (I just won't use him for nutrion adivce) When I saw him in the gym, I gave him a hug and he then starts getting on my case for the 120g of carbs that I am eating right now in my cut. He claimed it is too high for me. I argued that it isn't because I am getting results. A couple of other people moved in to hear the talk. Finally Noel says "okay, let me see" and he motions for me to lift my shirt. (the moment of truth) I lifted the shirt and it was like time froze (at least for me) I got uncomfortable then and stammered, "I am still 12-14 weeks out" I felt every eye on Noel at that time. He just studied it for awhile... Then he nods an approving look (didn't really concede anything though). Then he looks at me and asks, "So you are cutting really slow then?" I told him I was and I had managed to keep 12lbs of what I had gained so far. He then nods his head again, turns to walk away but gives me, "Smart girl" on his exit. I stood there with my shirt up and my belly fat hanging out knowing then that I was okay for being 12-14 weeks out.
So while I want to have all sorts of doubts right now 'cause I feel bloaty, grumpy, weak and fat, I almost cannot do it given that event...
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As for your cravings & moodiness, here's the last article by Lyle that goes on about the effect of lower carb intake on mood.. explains why I am supplementing with both tryptophan (at night to sleep) when I go lower in carbs and tyrosine (in the morning) to be alert) : http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nut...html#more-2209
How often do I need to repeat you're my hero for dietary compliance?
NOT for sleep compliance! There's room for improvement here
I had promised to do them anyway after I quit the challenges because they really are a good idea but I very much enjoyed not doing them the past couple of months...
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