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Old 05-30-2009, 06:27 AM   #571 (permalink)
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You should still join the challenge. They don't seem very official, I bet you could still send pictures and stats in today.
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Some people just are able to transition from low-carb to high-carb and the reverse much faster and you are obviously not one of them.
Amen to that girlfriend.... I keep telling people I am NOT a low carb person. This proves it without a doubt. LOL! Could you imagine me on a diet like UD2? I am pretty sure I would kill someone.

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You should still join the challenge. They don't seem very official, I bet you could still send pictures and stats in today.
On second thought I am NOT going to do the challenge. Reason is that it will cause me and Alan to fight even more. I am always pressing him to let me go faster and he is always holding me back. If I had this challenge lined up he would end up quitting me for the sheer pressure this would cause. I need to relax and let him do his thing in his time... (Until my show. Then he better freak'n come in for me) LOL!

I had a rather intersting day today. Worked at my rental house most of the day so got to workout in the gym on that side of the gym. This gym and this area is much more diverse than on the West side. I am much happier in this area and intend to retire to the East side of town one day. I had another decently good workout and even set at least one PR! I am not feeling 100% but very close to it and looking forward to being there very soon.

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Old 05-31-2009, 11:09 AM   #573 (permalink)
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Glad your workout was more brotastic than not

I'm carrying my rest / no cardio discussion back to my log so I don't clog yours up.
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Good to see you figured out what was happening with the effect carb levels have been having on you. I hope knowing what's up makes the process easier if it happens again. And even gladder that you're feeling better.
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Old 05-31-2009, 10:24 PM   #575 (permalink)
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Serious question for anyone that might know....

Can an advanced bladder infection be cured by water and only water? (Flushing lots of it through)
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I'd say no. Water works in conjunction with antibiotics. And if not treated soon enough, it can turn into a kidney infection. Punch yourself in the low back on each side. Do you feel any pain?
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Shit.... I went to ER yesterday and Dr did that pounding on the back thing because he was surprised it wasn't already in my kidneys. Of course I did not feel any pain. My problem is that I don't feel pain. I did not feel like explaining that to him so I didn't tell him. He fussed at me for waiting so long to get treated but I honestly did not know this was happening because I FUCKING DON'T FEEL PAIN!!! In fact I only went to ER because I was passing a lot of blood in my urine. Dr said the infection is raging, gave me Cypro and that other stuff that makes you pee orange. I don't wanna take Cypro 'cause it wipes my whole body out for days. I don't wanna drink cranberry juice becsause it is too big a carb hit and then I go through induction flu again. I just want to keep on progressing. I am trying to make it go away with just water. So far not working... Still bleeding.... but not really any pain....

On the upside am still hitting PRs (volume and weight) in the gym. Apparently bladders are far enough away from the heart.
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Old 05-31-2009, 11:01 PM   #578 (permalink)
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what about cranberry juice? If I do no eating tomorrow and just pound cranberry juice do I have a chance?
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You can either take the stuff for treating it, OR you're going to be in the hospital being infused for 10 days.
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Old 05-31-2009, 11:28 PM   #580 (permalink)
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how long before this becomes critical? I want to at least try to cure it naturally... I am still strong as hell in the gym and otherwise and not showing any signs of this being a problem except for passing blood. Today I pounded 2 gallons of water. Tomorrow I am thinking of pure cranberry juice all day. If that doesn't work and there is still bleeding THEN I'll take it....
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You can either take the stuff for treating it, OR you're going to be in the hospital being infused for 10 days.
Karla, I put myself in the hospital for four days with a kidney infection, which stemmed from an ignored bladder infection. The doctors were sure that if I hadn't gone to the ER, the infection would have gone systemic and attacked all of my organs.

I'd take the Cypro. I know that's not what you want to hear, but I think it's a good idea.

I'm so sorry you are dealing with this.
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not an MD, not medical advice but ...
In general, antibiotics work by knocking down the infection to the point where your immune system can wipe it out.
It doesn't sound like your system has a handle on it and the battle isn't going to turn without some help - take the Cipro.
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Willie: How long did it take for the infection to get to the critical point? I just want to try a few natural remedies for a few days before I have to make this decision....
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Old 06-01-2009, 12:03 AM   #584 (permalink)
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You might have missed the window for natural remedy already as you are to the "raging infection" / bloody urine stage. That's more the "slight burning on urination" stage I think (the one where home remedy might suffice). Just because you've only realized it for a day or two doesn't mean its only been a day or two. Just my opinion though.
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Dr said it has been ongoing probably caused by my first bike ride two Fridays ago. He thinks it is at least 6-7 days old. Still I don't feel bad and am strong as hell in the gym and on the farm. I busted my ass all day with physical labor. If I take the Cipro is 100% for sure I will feel like shit for some days. If I have a chance of pushing it through more naturally... even a slight one I want to take it.

I have one more day before I have to send in my daily reports to Alan and I want to at least try to have this figured out and a good plan by then... My guess is if I don't have this figured out by then, he will make me take the cipro. I don't wanna stop training or go off plan so I have at least one more day to work with this...

Just talked to Tracey (she called and was flipp'n out a little) Anyway, she suggested that I can gauge the seriousness of this by temp. I am trying to find a thermometer now.... I promised that if I see a fever I will jump on the Cipro program ASAP.
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Karla! Go use the Cipro pronto AND take (unsweetened) cranberry juice. Another option would be cranberry caps that only have the concentrated craberries.
Also get yourself a good overall probiotic to help your intestines survive the antibiotics.. (there's female probiotics too).

I'd strongly suggest to send in a report to Alan sooner rather than later, so he can help assess what you can do diet/training-wise. Come on!
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You can either take the stuff for treating it, OR you're going to be in the hospital being infused for 10 days.
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In general, antibiotics work by knocking down the infection to the point where your immune system can wipe it out.
It doesn't sound like your system has a handle on it and the battle isn't going to turn without some help - take the Cipro.
Has ANYONE here said "oh, yeah, you're fine waiting a day or 2"???? NO!

Take the medicine. A short-term setback is better than a hospital stay and serious complications. You have a RAGING infection - not a little tiny "maybe" infection...

TAKE THE CIPRO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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If you're deaf & semi-blind.. I'll repeat it again

TAKE THE CIPRO & THE CRANBERRIES!
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Remember that US Doctors DON'T like to give out antibiotics anymore. If you were prescribed an antibiotic you really truly need it. So take yer meds and rest.

Remember asking me what I thought I was doing the last time I worked out sick?? Well here's your own words on the subject:
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Girl!!! Why do you feel compelled to workout at home (workout at all) when you are sick? That doesn't seem to make any sense at all. You do rest weeks right? Being sick is simply a time of rest ALA rest week. I took the past 5 days off from working out. It was not a rest week per say but my body said it needed to chill a bit.
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not to beat a dead horse...but yeah get thyself the meds.

I tried to be a hero when I had a "bad cough" once in high school. I nearly passed out at school, they called my mom, and then we had to go to the doctor. Dr. said I was hours away from being hospitalized for pneumonia. Not cool.
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Just talked to Tracey (she called and was flipp'n out a little)
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Tracey was talking sane to the insane.
Come on. You might as well give the update.
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But.... I DON'T feel sick....

It doesn't feel right to make myself sick when I am NOT sick....

I hear all your concerns and I appreciate it but I just cannot wrap my head around it at this time...

I need more time to process all of this. I am no longer piss'n blood from what I can tell but was up every 45 min with all the water I have been flushing through so don't know if it means anything...
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Okay then, why not do the stats of the problem....

Take the meds, 80% chance of feeling poorly and giving up 3-8 days of training....sounds like a probability of 6 days off.

Don't take the meds, 100% chance of major complications, giving up 15-30 days of training.....this would be recovery, not time off for 2 or 3 weeks.

You have a scientific bent, what should you choose? By the way, all the options are inside the Pareto optimum...we are now discussing how to best recover, not how to avoid the issue from starting.

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sigh.... okay guys... I really cannot find anything that supports my argument that I can kick this without antibods given the advance nature of this condition. Besides my left side is sort of hurting now so feeling sort of trapped.

I will start the cipro today. I'll also catch Alan up and get advice if any on training/diet. Thanks for all your pushing and kicking and nagging. I would NEVER have come to this decision on my own. It is likely I would have been carried to the hospital in a meat wagon. I hate this shit so much....
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Good girl. Take the medicine... you'll feel better. I promise!
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I'm on the bandwagon...it was something you had to do...it will make you better and then when it's all cleared up you'll be unstoppable again! Not to worry. They really don't like to give anti's much anymore...and this was not one to fool with...the good part is Cipro will work fast. Sometimes we just need a little help every now and then!
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Don't forget to take the probiotics as well. W/o them you'll feel a lot worse.. your gut bacteria need to survive this while the antiobitics stop the bladder infection in its' tracks.
Since you've let it come so far, you may be feeling bad for a while but that's vastly preferable to being carried into hospital.

I'd not be surprised when Alan would know already , at least if he subscribed to your journal.
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Alan doesn't read logs regularly. I know 100% he did not read this last few days as he was heads down with AARR. That is how I could get away with hiding from him for past few days while I spent the days spinning......

Still looking at that fucking pill.... It's ugly and white and it makes me gag to look at it. I have promised myself to get it in by 12:00.
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Don't forget to take the probiotics as well. W/o them you'll feel a lot worse.. your gut bacteria need to survive this while the antiobitics stop the bladder infection in its' tracks.
Wait a minute. Where do I get these probiotics. An initial search uncovers tons and tons of options. How do I know what to take and how much? Do I take this before?

Perhaps I should wait until I get feedback from Alan before I committ to this.

I want to get a legs workout in today anyway...

Yeah... I know I am a dumbass and a pussy too but I feel strong enough to make it a few hours at least.
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