LOL at the weird people at the gym - I am amazed at people's creativity when it comes to using equipment - I could NEVER think up some of the stuff they do!
I made the mistake of getting on the scale last night - another 2 pound swing. I feel extra squishy - does being sick make you retain water? Cause if not, something is making me bloated. Ugggh.
Frustration - I haz it.
Yes, it sure does!!!
Now - get off the scale - and GET SOME REST! NO WORKOUTS for a couple days for you!!!! (Yeah, I know - I probably sound like your mother, but....)
Hope you're feeling better and workouts are looking great!
Lol at camo dude. People are weird. As we were leaving the gym today, we see the lady pull right up in front and part half in the handicap spot and regular spot. Did she not notice?
Thanks! Don't even get me started with parking lots. I have narrowed my biggest pet peeve in them....when people leave their carts in the middle of a spot when the cart keeper thing is literally next to where they were parked.
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Feel better!!!
LOL at the weird people at the gym - I am amazed at people's creativity when it comes to using equipment - I could NEVER think up some of the stuff they do!
Thanks Bytsi! Yeah the dude made my day. And I got a good laugh out of a co-worker when I was demonstrating what he was doing.
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Yes, it sure does!!!
Now - get off the scale - and GET SOME REST! NO WORKOUTS for a couple days for you!!!! (Yeah, I know - I probably sound like your mother, but....)
Actually more like my husband then my mom. My mom gave up on me long ago with trying to get me to rest. She is the same though - I don't know if that woman has taken a sick day since she had to stay home with us as kids. She's nuts like me
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Yes! I blow up like nobody's business when sick or dealing with allergies. Ten pounds in a day is not at all uncommon for me.
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I hope you are feeling better.
I retain water when I am sick. It's because I have allergies on top of being sick. Its very unpleasant, so I can def. understand where you are at.
Thanks you guys. Well that's good to know. I don't have any allergies so I always wondered this when I get sick. I am drinking so much water it should be illegal, but still puffy. Oh well.
Last nights workout: (runs away and hides........)
Built For Show, Spring A3 4x10
A) DB Snatch
5 x 30
5 x 30
5 x 30
Superset:
B1) Front Squat
10 x 75
10 x 75
10 x 75
10 x 85
B2) Step Up
10 x 25's
10 x 25's
10 x 25's
10 x 25's
Superset:
C1) BB Bent over row
10 x 45 (these are so lame but I struggle with form and wanted to go slow and get it right)
10 x 45
10 x 45
10 x 45
C2) BB Incline Bench
10 x 55
8 x 55 (FAIL)
10 x 45
10 x 45
D1) Wood Chop
15 x 50
15 x 50
D2) 3 pt Plank
30 sec each side
30 sec each side
Then easy 20 min jog on the treadmill.
For some crazy reason, Igot my biggest GWF # yet yesterday. It said 2809. I have been making an effort to walk around more at work and I was working out for over 60 minutes, so I suppose. Seems high to me.
So this poses a question that may be too early to answer. Here are my last 7 days of GWF and calories eaten:
2/12 2587 burned, 1381 eaten
2/13 2608 burned, 2000 eaten
2/14 2708 burned, (I have no idea - I ate alot, possibly more then 2708)
2/15 2616 burned, (didn't track but I think just over 2000)
2/16 2386 burned, 1455 eaten
2/17 2626 burned, 1481 eaten
2/18 2463 burned, 1395 eaten
2/19 2809 burned, 1490 eaten
Now, my tracking is not perfect to a T, but it can only be off 100 over or under at the most. I am pretty diligent but there are days when I don't weigh everything I should. So, do I need to eat more based on the burn numbers, or less since I am not losing? I know the GWF is just an estimate as well.
I haven't been losing so I am wondering if I need to eat even less? I have been pretty lazy about tracking on Saturday and SUnday and I know I need to do that, but I keep a running tally in my head throughout the days and its usually right around 2000-2500.
Am I overeating that much on the weekend that the almost 1000 cal deficit I get on some weekdays totally negated?
Am I driving myself nuts with numbers and stats?
Should I shut up and just keep doing what I am doing and stop obsessing?
Am I going to actually rest one of these days?
*the last 3 questions would probably be answered with a yes.
I think the concern is that when you're estimating too much that you can blow off any deficit. Assuming that the GWF is off by a bit and your estimating, it can lead to disaster. However, having said all that, a rest might be a good thing. Why not do a rest week, with calories matching (roughly) what you burn. Get a feel for if the numbers seem to match. More data is a good thing.
OMG, I am SO jealous of your burn numbers. I fantasize about what I could be eating if I was burning like that. I'm going to go to the gym tonight and make a serious effort to make 2000 for the day. For some reason my burn number has dropped--without a drop in weight. 2000-2100 calories used to be the norm on a workout day, now 1900 is good.
I wanted to mention I've been logging pretty consistently in Excel since Feb. 4 and what I am doing to account for food or BB reading maybe being slightly off is add a +100 column next to calories consumed and -100 next to calories burned to give me a deficit based on the BB and Fitday numbers and an 'accounting for errors' deficit. That way if I still come up with a deficit in that second column, I'm still headed in the right direction, albeit not as quickly. I figure my actual deficit is probably something between the two. Make sense?
BTW, those front squats and woodchops are looking really good. I don't know if it the cable machine I'm using (Freemotion), but 20 lbs. is a real challenge on the woodchops.
Well, Bree, if we go by your numbers, you should be losing almost 2 lbs a week. We know there is a margin of error with the GWF. But, I'm betting the biggest margin of error is with the calorie intake. Since you are obviously trying to track, I would be very diligent about weighing and tracking EVERYTHING for a week and see what happens.
The above looks like a weekly deficit of 6893. However, if you DID go over 2708, then that cuts into it. And, if you were really over 2,000 the next day, then that cuts into that day's perceived deficit of 616. Then, if you aren't weighing and measuring everything on the other days, what if you were off a couple hundred without knowing it. I think it might be worth a try.
Maybe you're not eating enough - if your numbers are right, that's a HYUUUUGE deficit there! One other option is to try (just for a couple weeks) eating a couple hundred more calories and see if you get better recovery and then weight-loss...
Bree, I have no input other than what was already said above--BUT your workouts are so intense, as always, and those front squats are AMAZING!!! I do hope you feel better though.
I think the concern is that when you're estimating too much that you can blow off any deficit. Assuming that the GWF is off by a bit and your estimating, it can lead to disaster. However, having said all that, a rest might be a good thing. Why not do a rest week, with calories matching (roughly) what you burn. Get a feel for if the numbers seem to match. More data is a good thing.
I think what having the GWF is telling me is that my lax approach to sometimes tracking on the weekends is hurting me more then I think. I was always aware of it, but after this week its much more apparent.
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OMG, I am SO jealous of your burn numbers. I fantasize about what I could be eating if I was burning like that. I'm going to go to the gym tonight and make a serious effort to make 2000 for the day. For some reason my burn number has dropped--without a drop in weight. 2000-2100 calories used to be the norm on a workout day, now 1900 is good.
I wanted to mention I've been logging pretty consistently in Excel since Feb. 4 and what I am doing to account for food or BB reading maybe being slightly off is add a +100 column next to calories consumed and -100 next to calories burned to give me a deficit based on the BB and Fitday numbers and an 'accounting for errors' deficit. That way if I still come up with a deficit in that second column, I'm still headed in the right direction, albeit not as quickly. I figure my actual deficit is probably something between the two. Make sense?
BTW, those front squats and woodchops are looking really good. I don't know if it the cable machine I'm using (Freemotion), but 20 lbs. is a real challenge on the woodchops.
I was surprised by my burns, too. I am glad, but am taking them with a grain of salt. I like your method of error deficit calcs. This is what I want to do, but need to get all my days tracked to see whats really happening. I need to make sure I am in a deficit every day, not just most of the days.
Thanks about the workout! I used to despise front squats because I didn't take the time to learn how to hold the bar properly. I am still doing the "genie" arms, but am trying to work on the correct arm position (can't think of what its called - the clean and jerk wrists back position) I thikn my cable machine is correct - 50 wasn't easy that's for sure. I should double check on that though.
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Well, Bree, if we go by your numbers, you should be losing almost 2 lbs a week. We know there is a margin of error with the GWF. But, I'm betting the biggest margin of error is with the calorie intake. Since you are obviously trying to track, I would be very diligent about weighing and tracking EVERYTHING for a week and see what happens.
The above looks like a weekly deficit of 6893. However, if you DID go over 2708, then that cuts into it. And, if you were really over 2,000 the next day, then that cuts into that day's perceived deficit of 616. Then, if you aren't weighing and measuring everything on the other days, what if you were off a couple hundred without knowing it. I think it might be worth a try.
Thanks Jane - I did drop two last week. But back up this week. Definitely not 2 a week as the numbers would suggest.
I am going to track everything over the weekend be even more diligent then I have been.
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Maybe you're not eating enough - if your numbers are right, that's a HYUUUUGE deficit there! One other option is to try (just for a couple weeks) eating a couple hundred more calories and see if you get better recovery and then weight-loss...
I think my first plan of action is to get super crazy about tracking for a week and see how off my estimates are on the weekends before I up my calories. My weekdays are pretty cut and dry. I eat pretty much the same exact foods for breakfast lunch and rotate about 4 different dinners. I know I am boring, but its easy! The weekend has the wild cards like Costco samples which are hard to quantify, even if I estimate to my best ability.
I have to give credit to the GWF for opening my eyes to how much I am burning, even if its showing a couple hundred more then I am. The thing is, the days with 1500 calories am I rarely starving. I have energy for my workouts and am not tired or run down. Yet.
Thanks for all the feedback you guys. It really helps to get this all out and think it through.
I know what I need to do and what I am doing wrong, sometimes it just takes realizing it and admitting it to others before you can actually "see" it.
I think my first plan of action is to get super crazy about tracking for a week and see how off my estimates are on the weekends before I up my calories. My weekdays are pretty cut and dry. I eat pretty much the same exact foods for breakfast lunch and rotate about 4 different dinners. I know I am boring, but its easy! The weekend has the wild cards like Costco samples which are hard to quantify, even if I estimate to my best ability.
Really late here and trying to catch up after being sick, but I love BSS's, too. Just letting you know you've got some company.
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I think my first plan of action is to get super crazy about tracking for a week and see how off my estimates are on the weekends before I up my calories. My weekdays are pretty cut and dry. I eat pretty much the same exact foods for breakfast lunch and rotate about 4 different dinners. I know I am boring, but its easy! The weekend has the wild cards like Costco samples which are hard to quantify, even if I estimate to my best ability.
You've got the right idea here, too. I did really well on estimating and measuring in general for quite a while. But, when you're getting down to the last few like you are (and I was before getting sick), weighing and tracking every single thing makes a difference.
If you have to have the Costco sample, ask them if you can see the boxes so you have a more accurate idea of exactly what you're getting.
Sorry to hear you were sick, too, and hope you're getting better.
Really late here and trying to catch up after being sick, but I love BSS's, too. Just letting you know you've got some company.
You've got the right idea here, too. I did really well on estimating and measuring in general for quite a while. But, when you're getting down to the last few like you are (and I was before getting sick), weighing and tracking every single thing makes a difference.
If you have to have the Costco sample, ask them if you can see the boxes so you have a more accurate idea of exactly what you're getting.
Sorry to hear you were sick, too, and hope you're getting better.
Thanks Karen - I am feeling a little better. Still horribly bloated!
I am glad I did the tracking over the weekend.
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Bree, did I tell you I started Built for Show, too? I'm doing Fall Phase 1.
Cool! So far I really like it. Its nothing crazy different then NROL or NROL4W, but just enough to keep me excited.
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Hai Bree! Just checking in! How is the tracking going over the weekend?
Hai Celeste!
Tracking went well. I had done it on weekends in the past, but kind of half heartedly. This time I ate mostly how I normally do and with the exception of a lunch out with a friend, it wasn't as bad as I thought. Although, since DH was gone most of the weekend we didn't make any meals or go out to eat together like we would normally. I started a spreadsheet to calculate my food and GWF burn to tally the deficits. I am hoping this will be a valuable tool on determining the weeks deficits.
Activity for the weekend:
Friday - 3 mile easy run on treadmill (2608 GWF burn)
Saturday - NEAT day! cleaned house, shoveled, shopping (2780 GWF burn)
Sunday - 3 mile easy run on treadmill and more NEAT with laundry and more cleaning (2852 GWF burn)
So I skipped my usual lifting session on Saturday again. I am trying to get over this cold and think I will only do two lifts a week every so often.
One big problem I still have today is huge bloat! I think its from being sick and I have been drinking water, gatorade, anything and everything. Nothing will budge. So I am going to stay off the scale until my pregnant looking belly subsides. Hopefulyl soon! I am getting better about not freaking out about it - its only water, but I think I am starting to get to a place where I know I didn't overeat and I know its not fat.
The cold still lingers and seems to be moving into my lungs, but nothing I can't manage.
On a fun note, I am a super proud big sister! My brothers team made playoffs and my sister got invited to a selects team. (all hockey of course)
I am getting better about not freaking out about it - its only water, but I think I am starting to get to a place where I know I didn't overeat and I know its not fat.
The cold still lingers and seems to be moving into my lungs, but nothing I can't manage.
That's a good thing (learning to deal with the water issues), as women always seem to have more issues with water than men do. As to the cold, take care of yourself. I know at least a few people who have been sick for weeks lately. If you can't shake it then it might be a good idea to see if your maintenance levels are correct.
Just checking in to see how you are feeling, too! You have a lot going on, but it looks like you are getting it all figured out! Weekends are hard for me, too.
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That's a good thing (learning to deal with the water issues), as women always seem to have more issues with water than men do. As to the cold, take care of yourself. I know at least a few people who have been sick for weeks lately. If you can't shake it then it might be a good idea to see if your maintenance levels are correct.
Thanks Anne - I am feeling almost 100% today. I thought the cold would get much worse before it got better, but it wasn't that bad this time.
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Not too much to add in here, just wanted to pop in and see how you were feeling.
Better - thanks! I really can't complain. Most times when I get a cold I have at least one day where I can barely function and have to miss a day from work, but this was very mild. I must have done something right.
I could tell it was the end of the month at the gym last night - not a treadmill to be found at 4:30! I waited for about 5 minutes then decided to just suck it up and use the bike. Problem with me and the bike is that no matter how hard I try, I can't get my heart rate up nearly as high for intervals on the bike as when I run. Oh well.
Here is what I did:
intervals - on bike:
5 min warm up
1 min hard, 2 min easy 7 times
5 min cool down, then I saw a treadmill open up and ran 1 mile and walked for 5
I put the GWF on my calf for the bike portion and it seemed to be fairly reasonable. Good to know for future outdoor bike endeavors!
I hate how it gets so busy the gym gets at the end of the month - Its totally not fair to those of us who are there almost every day throughout the month to get in their 8 or 10 or 12 times for their health insurance discount thing. I don't even have to worry about it. One of my co-workers is classic - he will go literally 8 days in a row the last week of the month. But never any other time. I don't get it - just go two times a week! Thats not that much! And I am pretty sure he pulls the whole walk in, get scanned, walk around for 5 minutes then leave.
GWF for Monday: 2596
Oh and I made a yummy mostly guilt free treat for my sweet tooth at night inspired by a recipe I saw on Figure Athlete:
6 tablespoons PB2 with recommended water - 3 tablespoons
4 scoops chocolate protein powder (I have At Large Nitrean)
1/4 cup water
and some Stevia - just kind of sprinkled it on top
Mixed it all together in a bowl so it got gooey, then placed a little bit in a muffin tray (I filled 10 spots in the tin) and put them in the freezer. About an hour later they had mostly froze.
Next time I am just going to roll them into balls and place on a cookie sheet because it was nearly impossible to get them out of the muffin tin without ruining the non-stick finish - or I will spray it with cooking spray next time.
Delish! Each one only had 60 cals and 11g protein.
Today is another sales rep lunch at work - wish me luck! These things never go well because I feel out of control not knowing what I am eating and I am always hungrier then when I bring my own lunch. Woe is me.
Also, still 3 pounds up from my low two weeks ago. I am STILL retaining so much water! The Tanita had me over 54% water which is high for me. My belly is seriously puffy. My legs seem to be too. Grrrrrr. After tracking very carefully and even if my GWF #'s are way off from the past week, I know this gain is only water and there is no way I shouldn't be losing. I still trying to stay the course and trust that this water will whoosh soon.
Bree, I mix Nitrean with PB or PB2 all the time with water. Sometimes I freeze, sometimes I just get is all gooey and add blueberries to it and eat it. YUM!
Today is another sales rep lunch at work - wish me luck! These things never go well because I feel out of control not knowing what I am eating and I am always hungrier then when I bring my own lunch. Woe is me.
Good to hear you're feeling better. Hope the work lunch goes well. I've developed a serious hatred of eating mystery foods where I don't know what they are. I can't just sit back and enjoy myself, and as you say I'm always hungrier than if I make my own on-plan stuff.
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Bree, I mix Nitrean with PB or PB2 all the time with water. Sometimes I freeze, sometimes I just get is all gooey and add blueberries to it and eat it. YUM!
Jane - you are the reason I got Nitrean in the first place! So many thanks The thread on the recipe forum on Figure Athlete used regular natural peanut butter, and although I know I need healthy fats, I don't need the extra calories for that kind of treat so the PB2 worked out perfect.
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Glad you are feeling better!
AWESOME!
Thanks! Love it I am excited for my brothers game on Thursday - playoff season is upon us!
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Good to hear you're feeling better. Hope the work lunch goes well. I've developed a serious hatred of eating mystery foods where I don't know what they are. I can't just sit back and enjoy myself, and as you say I'm always hungrier than if I make my own on-plan stuff.
Thanks! I totally agree - everyone looks forward to these things, but its not as "fun" as when you are counting cals!
So I wanted to post this about lunch quick:
So the food was from Einstein Bros. Bagels. I was able to look at the nurtirion facts online and if I would have eaten the whole lunch it would have been 1020 calories! This included a turkey bagel sandwich with a little cream cheese, lettuce, and tomato on it, (580) a small bag of kettle chips (120), and an oatmeal cookie (320).
I ate half the sandwich and a small piece of dark chocolate I had at my desk. So needless to say, not all that filling so we will see how it affects my workout tonight.
Glad you're feeling better! I'm another one that retains water when sick. I could have the trots all day and be up 5 pounds!
I'm with you on not returning carts to the cart return. If I see a stray cart, I will go out of my way to get it and put it in the stall. When I first got my car, I had it less than a week and got a ding right on the wheel well from a cart that some effer was too lazy to return only a few spaces away. No wonder why San Antonio is the 3rd fattest city.
Dang! You wouldn't think the sandwich alone would be THAT many calories!
Glad you're feeling better! I'm another one that retains water when sick. I could have the trots all day and be up 5 pounds!
I'm thinking I'm going to have to put you on my list of people that I have to avoid drinking while reading their posts .
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I'm with you on not returning carts to the cart return. If I see a stray cart, I will go out of my way to get it and put it in the stall. When I first got my car, I had it less than a week and got a ding right on the wheel well from a cart that some effer was too lazy to return only a few spaces away. No wonder why San Antonio is the 3rd fattest city.
Dang! You wouldn't think the sandwich alone would be THAT many calories!
I have thought about that from time to time and realized that it would be almost a full-time job for me to grab all the stray carts in a parking lot. Usually I just try for the ones that are in my vicinity when I'm returning my own cart.
Restaurant sandwiches are like little land mines on their own. They use the highest calorie bread they can find and douse the rest in dressings, butter, etc. It's not safe to assume a sandwich is just a sandwich anymore .
Glad you're feeling better! I'm another one that retains water when sick. I could have the trots all day and be up 5 pounds!
I'm with you on not returning carts to the cart return. If I see a stray cart, I will go out of my way to get it and put it in the stall. When I first got my car, I had it less than a week and got a ding right on the wheel well from a cart that some effer was too lazy to return only a few spaces away. No wonder why San Antonio is the 3rd fattest city.
Dang! You wouldn't think the sandwich alone would be THAT many calories!
Thanks! And yes, being sick has all kinds of ridiculous complications doesn't it? I am feeling almost 100% today - but the bloat hangs on. Sigh.
And I have found myself going out of my way lately to park farther away and put away others carts. I don't know what it is - lead by example maybe?
So - I usually post early in the morning but I was busy today! So I will try to catch up on as many logs as I can here at lunch....
Yesterday I alluded to the fact that when I eat an unplanned lunch, I always have less energy for my workouts and seem hungrier. And it was for sure the case last night. I got home from work and felt like I had the low blood sugar shakies, so I ate a handful of delicious gummy bears. Yes, I am sure there were better choices to be made - but it worked.
I don't know if it was the food or just the fact that I hadn't lifted since last Thursday, but this was hard! I was sweating bullets and the heart rate was up there.
Built For Show, Spring B3 4x10
A) Jump Squat
6 x 25
6 x 25
8 x 25 (calls for 3X5 but I like these so I do more)
B1)wide grip lat pulldown or pull up (I did assisted wide grip pullups on the assist machine)
10 x 105 assist
9 x 90 assist (FAIL)
10 x 105 assist
10 x 105 assist - these made me feel weak...must have been the wide grip?
B2) DB Single arm push press
10 x 25
10 x 25
10 x 25
10 x 25 ( I do love these, I feel strong but I get so many strange looks while doing them)
C1) DB RDL
10 x 40's *most weight @ 10 reps
10 x 40's
10 x 40's
10 x 40's
C2) BSS
10 x 30's
10 x 30's
10 x 30's
10 x 30's
D1) reverse crunch (the mats were horribly crowded so I subbed swiss ball crunch slow reps with med ball)
12 x BW
12 x BW
D2) Side plank
30 sec. each side
30 sec. each side
Treadmill: 2 mile jog
GWF burn for Tuesday: 2738
Seems that I average around 2500-2700 burns most days. Most nights I try to limit myself to 1 hour of tv and I always do my foam rolling and stretching during this time. But last night I had to stop and stare at the trainwreck that was the Real Houswives reunion show. I have so many things to say about those women, but don't know where to start.
Anyway, its a balmy 35 degrees and sunny here today! That = outdoor run for Bree tonight
ETA: For the hour and 15 minutes I was at the gym last night for my workout, GWF says I burned 524 calories compared to 639 cals according to the Polar F6.
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