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Old 01-27-2009, 03:13 PM   #301 (permalink)
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Today: Jason's Workout #2

Squat - 10x55#, 8x65#, 6x85#, 5x105#, 5x105#

1-leg RDL - 4x8(e) w/ 40#s(e)

Incline Bench - 8x65#, 3x8x85#

Cable Row (subbed for chest-supported row cuz I hate the machine at my gym) - 4x10 @ 90# (these get heavy when you have to do so many reps!)

Arnold Press - 6x20#(e), 3x6x25#(e)

Reverse-grip Pull-downs - 3x10 @ 100# (I didn't even TRY any real chins or pulls since it was at the end and my grip was DEAD by then). Didn't even do the 4th set he'd written cuz my hands were DONE.

Then... sigh... went to meet my 2 gf's for lunch. I HATE eating alone, especially if I don't have a book... but... sigh... that's what I ended up doing.
One of the two friends is notoriously unreliable, so I texted her early today to confirm. Didn't reply, so I figured I'd get her a seat anyway, just in case she showed up... The other friend is very reliable so I thought about calling to confirm but decided not to.
I got 100% stood up.
Turns out the reliable one had asked the unreliable one to let me know she couldn't make it. Not only did the unreliable one not bother to tell me she herself wasn't coming, she didn't even bother to tell me the other friend couldn't make it.
The reliable friend felt really bad when we spoke later, but it wasn't her fault. We decided next time we'll be sure to speak directly to each other... sigh...

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Hey, take a whoosh whenever it comes, be it fast or slow LOL... but YES, it would be nice if whooshes always corresponded with compliance, wouldn't it? The body is beyond our comprehension sometimes!

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Thanks Lori. I will gladly take the whoosh, just wish it made sense!

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Wow I totally missed the 10 on the treadmill part. That's awesome! I get funny looks at 8.5! I must be making a lot of noise or something. Oh and I had a dream last night that my gym got fancy new treadmills like your gym has with the dvd players. Who dreams about treadmills, seriously?

And I am super jealous about your trip. I hope you can just relax and enjoy your time not worrying too much about food and exercise. I need to tell myself that when I am on vacation, too.
Thanks Bree - and yeah, I dream about workout stuff too sometimes - I guess at least we (Celeste too!) can all be weird together
I am going to try very hard to relax, make MOSTLY good food choices, but also enjoy and just stay active and get plenty of NEAT too. And I do plan to take advantage of the gym while we're there...

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Yay for little whooshies...we love them whenever they happen...8) Oh and sorry...hope the DS is doing better ...I see the D and just assume hubby...lol!
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Taylor gave him lots of cuddling and then built a huge pile of stuff (including my shoes and workout bag) at the top of the stairs so it wouldn't happen again. Poor guy...

Yeah, glad for the slow whoosh but your body is just so strange! I sure can't figure you out!
I can't figure me out either!!! Glad my cousin's ok

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Bodies are definitely weird. I think they operate more on chaos theory than on simple mathematics! Hey, have an awesome time on that vacation, though. You're in such a great place in terms of getting your body in shape, you can afford to make some indulgent eating choices here and there . You'll do great! Just listen to your body. (I mean, its nutritional needs, as well as its lust for dark chocolate !)
I'm pretty sure my body is on chaos theory... definitely!
And believe me, I am sure I'll indulge. I just don't want to over-indulge (too much)... but I also don't want to ruin my own relaxation with guilt or being obsessive, ya know?

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Holy cow! 10 on the treadmill. I was excited when I hit 6.3.
It was only 30 seconds (if that) - and believe me, 31 seconds would've had me flying off the back into the wall!

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Hey Bytsi congrats on the mini woosh and on the 10 interval. I don't even think my legs can keep up with a 10. LOL!
LOL - I'm SURE you could do 10 - just maybe not for an entire marathon distance
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Old 01-27-2009, 03:33 PM   #302 (permalink)
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So Bytsi, your cousin Buddy just bounced down the stairs in his ball. Just wanted to let you know he's okay!
Told you you should've used a different ball for those slams.
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Old 01-27-2009, 05:25 PM   #303 (permalink)
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Aw, Bytsi, I'm sorry you got stood up. I went to lunch alone last week for the first time in a long time. I did have a book with me, though, that I was reading in preparation for a class I teach. Sometimes I get so tired of unreliable people. It's like playing with fire.
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Old 01-27-2009, 06:04 PM   #304 (permalink)
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Yuck. Sorry you were stood up.

That workout looks awesome and congrats on the whoosh.
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Old 01-27-2009, 08:40 PM   #305 (permalink)
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I cannot stand unreliable people...and anymore it is almost impossible to find people who are truly reliable. I just don't get people. Probably why I don't have friends to speak of. Personally, I think making plans for lunch and cancelling is rude to start with much less not showing and not calling. Yeah, there are legitimate reasons for cancelling, but I think people should make every effort to keep their appointments even if it is just lunch.

As for lunching alone, yeah, without a book it is hard not to feel a little awkward. I think it is more, what do you do while you're waiting for your food? Read the dessert menu, the wine list, check out the decor and try not to look like you're watching other people eat.
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Awwww...bummer about being stood up...I'm sorry Bytsi. NICE reverse grip pull downs...damn girl!!!
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:49 AM   #307 (permalink)
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Hooray on the whoosh! Nice looking workout! Crap on the lunch.
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:53 AM   #308 (permalink)
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Sorry you got stood up for lunch Bytsi, but I hope at least that the food was good!
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I love eating out by myself. Maybe it's because I waitressed for many years and always loved waiting on people dining by themselves. Quite often I'll just take myself out to lunch or dinner. The only thing is I won't do it on a Friday or Saturday night....don't want to look like a loser on date night!
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Wow am I SORE today... and of course back up 1# to 142, but with DOMS that's to be expected... guess it was a good workout yesterday. I knew it was a good one when I woke up in the middle of the night because of leg and arm and full-body achey cramps... DOMS - gotta love it

Snow day today. Wicked outside!!! I still plan to go to the gym later, but I might just end up on the home treadmill instead... And maybe I should actually start packing instead of just thinking about how much I need to start packing?!?!?

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Aw, Bytsi, I'm sorry you got stood up. I went to lunch alone last week for the first time in a long time. I did have a book with me, though, that I was reading in preparation for a class I teach. Sometimes I get so tired of unreliable people. It's like playing with fire.
I don't mind being alone, I just mind being stood up .

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That workout looks awesome and congrats on the whoosh.
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I cannot stand unreliable people...and anymore it is almost impossible to find people who are truly reliable. I just don't get people. Probably why I don't have friends to speak of. Personally, I think making plans for lunch and cancelling is rude to start with much less not showing and not calling. Yeah, there are legitimate reasons for cancelling, but I think people should make every effort to keep their appointments even if it is just lunch.

As for lunching alone, yeah, without a book it is hard not to feel a little awkward. I think it is more, what do you do while you're waiting for your food? Read the dessert menu, the wine list, check out the decor and try not to look like you're watching other people eat.
I'm really torn right now, whether to do/say anything about the one who caused the problems... she's always been like this - cancels at the last moment, doesn't show up to places... When we manage to get together we're great friends and I love her. But when she does this, I want to scream. I really feel like I want to call her and tell her how angry I am that she couldn't bother to even send ONE LOUSY LITTLE TEXT in her oh-so-busy life to let me know... especially because this lunch had originally been planned for last week and I went out of my way (three calls and two texts before I reached her) to be sure she knew it was cancelled and didn't drive all the way out there for nothing!!!

But I also don't want to be in a fight with her... although part of me wonders why it matters, since I'm mad at her whether I say something or not. Crap. Am I a wimp or what??? What would you do? (generic "you" open question )

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Hooray on the whoosh! Nice looking workout! Crap on the lunch.
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Sorry you got stood up for lunch Bytsi, but I hope at least that the food was good!
The food was good, at least...

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I love eating out by myself. Maybe it's because I waitressed for many years and always loved waiting on people dining by themselves. Quite often I'll just take myself out to lunch or dinner. The only thing is I won't do it on a Friday or Saturday night....don't want to look like a loser on date night!
I'm not a huge fan of eating alone, but I do it sometimes. Yesterday though, was at a small place (Nicky & Smitty's Jane - have you been there?) and everyone (the host, the owner, the waitresses) knew I was stood up when I sat there forever with 2 extra menus and place settings... sigh... I'm sure it was obvious to the other diners too... I tried just brush it off "oh well, I'm sure they just got the schedule confused" and just ate my lunch, but I felt pretty stupid... plus there were two tables right by me with groups of 5 or 6 friends having lunch together so I kinda felt pathetic... me and my 2 imaginary friends with their place-settings...
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Where is Nick and Smitty's...I'm not familiar with it??
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Where is Nick and Smitty's...I'm not familiar with it??
It's a little diner across from Geauga Lake - 1/2 mile or so south of the Walmart plaza and all that crap... world's best sweet potato fries (I didn't get 'em yesterday though ). They have lots of salads, burgers, etc... good cheap food, basically (and no wine list that I know of )
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Great workout as usual.

Sorry about the lunch thing. I always like serving singles, too. They were usually very friendly and tipped well. Probably because a lot of them were on business and had the expense account, lol! But I know what you mean about not having a book or paper or something.

I saw there is a big storm in your area today - well you and a lot of others here! Looks crazy. Hope it isn't too bad.
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I'm really torn right now, whether to do/say anything about the one who caused the problems... she's always been like this - cancels at the last moment, doesn't show up to places... When we manage to get together we're great friends and I love her. But when she does this, I want to scream. I really feel like I want to call her and tell her how angry I am that she couldn't bother to even send ONE LOUSY LITTLE TEXT in her oh-so-busy life to let me know... especially because this lunch had originally been planned for last week and I went out of my way (three calls and two texts before I reached her) to be sure she knew it was cancelled and didn't drive all the way out there for nothing!!!

But I also don't want to be in a fight with her... although part of me wonders why it matters, since I'm mad at her whether I say something or not. Crap. Am I a wimp or what??? What would you do? (generic "you" open question )
If it really bothers you that much, I would say something. Start out by saying how you missed spending time with her and that you really have a good time when you get together, and then just say that you were really hurt that she didn't let you know they couldn't make it! Tell her you sat there by yourself...and how not fun it was for you. Put it into perspective for her. Keep it positive but just make her aware...maybe she does it a lot and doesn't realize it. It may be a good lesson for her, and it would sure make you feel better! If you value her friendship letting her know could only make it better. That's just my 2 cents...
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I usually wait till I'm not pissed, and then I explain how incredibly rude and selfish they're being.
Then, if I've done that and they still do it, I make it more … memorable.

Some people think they don't have control over their lives, the traffic made them late, etc… and don't realize that the very act of them being so thoughtless reveals how of little importance you are to them. My mom is constantly late for everything. She thinks all these things are important to her. But really, they're not. They're not important enough to demand more from herself. They're not important enough to stop sabotaging everything. It's no different than the person who "really wants" to lose weight doing nothing about it. Not enough.

People that cannot be relied upon shouldn't be given any responsibility or opportunity to fuck shit up. To someone's face should be said "you can't be trusted to give enough of a fuck to actually DO this, so I don't trust you to do it."

Once my sister got the fact that her constant lateness was slighting others waiting on her, she fixed that (with everyone but me, what does that say). I cut her some slack, but even with me, she knows I don't trust her to care enough, so if she wants to be a grownup she has to prove she is one.
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If it really bothers you that much, I would say something. Start out by saying how you missed spending time with her and that you really have a good time when you get together, and then just say that you were really hurt that she didn't let you know they couldn't make it! Tell her you sat there by yourself...and how not fun it was for you. Put it into perspective for her. Keep it positive but just make her aware...maybe she does it a lot and doesn't realize it. It may be a good lesson for her, and it would sure make you feel better! If you value her friendship letting her know could only make it better. That's just my 2 cents...
I totally agree! Definately wait until you are not angry, though!
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I have no problem making people feel bad for making me feel bad. If someone does something that truly hurts me, I let them know. I would make sure your friend knew that you were sitting with your two imaginary friends feeling hurt and pathetic. Paint her a picture--maybe it will sink in. One of my coworkers did something like this recently. Before our holiday party at work we spent a day shopping for shoes and her dress, had dinner, made a day of it and were all giggly and excited looking forward to the party. This is a departure for me...I don't have girlfriends that I do girly stuff with, but it was fun and I went with it. She spent over 100 bucks on a really nice dress then that Monday she tells me she changed her mind, her other friends were mad at her because she wasn't going to their party. It wasn't the end of the world because I was going to a work party where I knew a lot of people, but I was looking forward to my bf and I hanging out with her and her husband. Anyway, we emailed back and forth, and I let her know exactly how I felt. She felt sufficiently bad, and by the end of the day I was fine, still disappointed, but I was able to forgive. Now...if this is the beginning of a trend I will probably just write her off and go back to my me only cave. I just think your friend needs to know she can really suck as a friend.
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Bytsi, sorry you were stood up. I understand your feelings on eating alone without something to read/do. I have no advice on talking to the unreliable friend, though, as I just wouldn't invite her or agree to go to lunch with her again. No talking or communication necessary, just that would be it.
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People suck. I'd rip them a new one, personally.

However.... I'm with Jane. I love to just sit and read a book and take my time with a meal. That's how I used to study in undergrad... it's very relaxing to me. Why the hell I rarely do it these days is beyond me.

Well, other than the very obvious reason of prolonged dieting down. Ha.
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I'm really torn right now, whether to do/say anything about the one who caused the problems... she's always been like this - cancels at the last moment, doesn't show up to places... When we manage to get together we're great friends and I love her. But when she does this, I want to scream. I really feel like I want to call her and tell her how angry I am that she couldn't bother to even send ONE LOUSY LITTLE TEXT in her oh-so-busy life to let me know... especially because this lunch had originally been planned for last week and I went out of my way (three calls and two texts before I reached her) to be sure she knew it was cancelled and didn't drive all the way out there for nothing!!!
It's tough. I have a friend that I've pretty much lost touch with because she never shows. We'll make plans specifically for days that are good for her (and sometimes bad for others) and then she doesn't show up. And yet, she then said to someone else that she misses meeting up with us. I'm not quite sure what to do with people like that.
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Turning into a day off, but some moderately decent NEAT (aka trying to pack a little bit). Tomorrow is scheduled day off, so I'll do cardio then instead. Also went out sledding in my car (roads are NOT good) to Target - I love 4WD, just wish the people without it would stop getting stuck right in front of me!

Thank you to Bree, Kristen, Aoife, Tracey, Kathy, Karen, Tina, Anne (did I miss anyone?) - you are ALL right... and the advice is greatly appreciated. I really thought about it for a while today... And just to clarify - I have no problem reading a book, I just felt stupid with no book and 3 place-settings and menus and obviously just me alone eating...

Anyway - I called the unreliable friend... I asked if she was ok, if something had happened (guilt is my tool of choice for today) and she said no, why? So I said "well, you didn't show up yesterday so I was worried..." and she said "I told you I probably couldn't make it" (not exactly, but whatever).

So I said "well, X told me that you were supposed to let me know she couldn't make it either - I sat there all alone waiting and no one showed up."

She said something like "oh no I'm sorry" but denied having had that conversation with the other friend - said she had no idea that X wasn't going to make it or that she was supposed to let me know that X couldn't be there. She said maybe there was a vm or something that she hadn't checked yet, but that she didn't know anything about the other person not coming or her needing to pass that on to me...

Hmmmmmmm...

She seemed like she felt bad about my being stood up, and said it's possible that she'd screwed up, but she didn't remember any such conversation.



I dunno. I can't say that X specifically said that she TALKED to this one, or just maybe she just left her a vm and said "please let B know too..."

It's very hard for me to confront either of them, or bitch her out, especially when no one is fully accepting blame.

I'll write this on off to a communication "glitch", but if/when we reschedule, I'll be sure to make sure I confirm on the day of - and bring a book just in case .
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Old 01-28-2009, 04:08 PM   #323 (permalink)
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Hopefully, the HR incident was just a one time thing. Luckily, my partner used to be a medic so she can attempt to revive me if I keel over one of these days!

Sorry you got stood up. I had to divorce a friend of mine because she always cancelled lunch plans, etc. It got really old and I just don't have time for that shit.
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Ok, this isn't the place for it, but I need a good vent, so here goes.

My 13-year-old son is in the 1st %ile for height and falling off even that curve. He had a growth-hormone stim test on Monday, and he isn't producing growth hormone. His pituitary gland is not making the hormone, and without it he may not even hit 5' tall as an adult. The majority of insurance companies will pay for this treatment when medically documented, as the out-of-pocket for it would be about $40k per year (for about 2 years) according to the pediatric endocrinology nurse. We don't have that kind of "spare" cash. And we'd need to start treatment ASAP for it to be most effective.

The insurance we have through my H's job (and he has no choice on the plan) excludes GH treatment for any medical condition or diagnosis. They will not pay, no matter what the reason. Unless I can find a great job with insurance, or my husband can somehow find a new job with better (ANY other) insurance very quickly - which is quite unlikely - then we can't treat my son.

I just don't see how an insurance company can get away with an arbitrary "we won't treat it" like that.

My son has enough other health challenges already... I realize that this won't affect his lifespan or anything, but it's just one more blow. Studies show that men who are extremely short are discriminated against - paid less and less likely to have success in finding a mate. He already has enough challenges in his life. I just want him to have the opportunity to reach a "normal" height, and this is a simple and treatable condition. It is a MEDICAL condition. We're not talking about a kid who is just kinda short and we want to change that - we're talking about a kid whose brain is not producing a necessary substance to promote NORMAL growth.

But no. This one insurance company says that even if it's a real medical condition, they choose not to pay for the treatment.

WHAT. THE. FUCK.
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Wow Bytsi I am so sorry! Insurance companies are so amazingly stupid with some of their decisions and policies. I hope you or your hubby can find a better alternative soon. Finger crossed!
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Oh my gosh! Bytsi, I'm so sorry. Insurance companies are so hard to deal with. I hope you can find something.
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Oh, Bytsi, I am so sorry!
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I can't believe how incredibly unfair this is. You must feel so helpless....I can't imagine. I am so sorry this is happening to your family. If I win the lottery, your family gets the first check I write! Ooooh, this just pisses me off!
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I can't believe how incredibly unfair this is. You must feel so helpless....I can't imagine. I am so sorry this is happening to your family. If I win the lottery, your family gets the first check I write! Ooooh, this just pisses me off!
Thank you all SO much... and Jane - that is the nicest thing I've had anyone say to me in a long time

So... tonight my son was in the school spelling-bee championship. He got out on the 4th round on "conceited" (he spelled conceeded, which is kinda ironic ). Anyway... before it started, H and I were talking about the situation. The doctor actually called it "primary dwarfism" (although his body and head and limbs are all in proportion and he just looks small and not like a "little person"). We won't tell my son that label, because it would really upset him. The doc might've just written it to try to spur the insurance company into action, but it didn't work. They already shot us down cold.

I need a job. SOON. If I can get a job that either:
1) offers insurance that'd pay for it (which would be a miracle) or
2) pays somewhat decently
AND my H picks up some extra work too - we will try to swing it. We've been gearing up to pay for college anyway (which starts in Fall '10 for our daughter) and this is about what tuition will cost. I don't know what we'll do once we have to pay for BOTH, if we can't resolve the insurance (and there's no preexisting condition clause if/when we get better insurance) before then, but one thing at a time...

We weren't planning on this, obviously, but if my H moonlights a bit and I get work soon and we just really tighten up... and maybe dip into savings or our equity line...

We have to figure the finances out somehow. It is literally the difference between him being maybe 5' tall and being 5'9" or even taller when he's grown. We'll figure it out, and I'll really push the job search (maybe just take ANY job instead of focusing on "the perfect job" if it pays enough and/or has insurance).

This forum never ceases to amaze me -- the fact that you all are so supportive, even on a non-fitness issue... it means the world to me. Thank you.
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Ugh, Bytsi, I'm SO sorry to hear about these issues with your son. That is just completely crazy that the insurance company won't pay for the treatment. I'll pray for you guys, that something works out. I'm glad though that your attitude is so positive for the moment. Keep us updated...
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