Have enjoyed the cat stories. My MIL has a doggy door for her dogs. She also always has food out for her dogs. Well a couple years ago some skunks started coming into the house after the food. Talk about an expensive cleaning bill!!! She had to call in a specialist to get rid of the smell.
Congrats on doing so well with repair.
I am a little worried about this new young Tomcat that visits as I always have my animals neutered and he definitely still has a good pair of furry balls and I know tomcats can leave a nasty spray couldn't be as bad a skunk spray though
I was thinking that you were up real late but now I see you live in Washington
had a dinner party here last night, 4 Italians and me I did a new recipe from a cookbook my brother gave me for Christmas of North African.Eastern Mediterranean recipes.... Lome con Leche, pork cooked for 2 hours in milk with cinnamon and bay leaves..... I served it with mashed ^potatoes made with garlic and olive oil and a salad of roquette.
I did a new recipe from a cookbook my brother gave me for Christmas of North African.Eastern Mediterranean recipes.... Lome con Leche, pork cooked for 2 hours in milk with cinnamon and bay leaves..... I served it with mashed ^potatoes made with garlic and olive oil and a salad of roquette.
OH dinner last night sounds good. Can you ship some to Houston please and thank you???
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Seems like the program didn't really work for you huh?
If you really gained from the get go and bf% has been going up consistently despite all the resting etc. you did, there's only 1 explanation possible. Your metabolism sux and can't be repaired w/o drugs.
Once again, have you been tracking morning temperatures? Read that article from drRind? Please humour me and do it for a month and report your morning temps. It can be quite revealing.
If you can't /won't go to a doctor who does a THOROUGH thryoid test with FREE (or if that's not possible) total T4/T3/TSH, then there's also just the unconventional but highly relaxing idea of just live with it.
My new mantra "I'd rather be fat, happy & strong" than "lean, weak & hungry".
Enjoy life, enjoy food, enjoy the beautiful hikes you can make where you live and enjoy being as strong as you are..
Seems like the program didn't really work for you huh?
If you really gained from the get go and bf% has been going up consistently despite all the resting etc. you did, there's only 1 explanation possible. Your metabolism sux and can't be repaired w/o drugs.
Once again, have you been tracking morning temperatures? Read that article from drRind? Please humour me and do it for a month and report your morning temps. It can be quite revealing.
If you can't /won't go to a doctor who does a THOROUGH thryoid test with FREE (or if that's not possible) total T4/T3/TSH, then there's also just the unconventional but highly relaxing idea of just live with it.
My new mantra "I'd rather be fat, happy & strong" than "lean, weak & hungry".
Enjoy life, enjoy food, enjoy the beautiful hikes you can make where you live and enjoy being as strong as you are..
I haven't regularly been checking morning temp, tho did do it for a few days last week. I will "humour" you and do it for a month I can ask my doc about the COMPLETE thyroid check too. Many thanks for these thoughts.(I will read the articles) It seems Leigh thinks all is normal for me. Of course I will know more if i go ahead and try and eat at maintenance for 1-2 months, which I think I will
Make sure to hit 100g of carbs minimum each day and also not eat less than 1g of fat per kg BW (or kg LBM if you must go low).
I never go low fat
But thanks for the tip on the carbs. I have done very well on low carb before, but after the metrepair I have been thinking maybe I shouldn't go lower than 100gr daily, at least for the time being, so you have confirmed that for me what is your reasoning behind this? for hormones?
thanks, Espi I actually normally do a clean and press so this was quite different. I plan n testing my 1RM on deads and bench, but these two are much weaker exercises for me. My squat is much stronger than my deadlift
The 100g a day is what Lyle McDonald indicates as being essential for good hormonal health, especially thyroid health. A lot of people get into trouble when they go low carb for too long even when they function very well on lower intakes. Their metabolism just goes down.. and from how your results look like, this seems like the same for you.
If you can maintain strength on 33/33/33 that sounds good, but that's just a %. How many calories were you thinking?
From the look of it.. your results after MetRepair & no/little exercise, seems like you maintain on 1400kcal or so w/o exercise. Perhaps 1700-ish with exercise? See if 1800 kcal makes you gain for the next 3-4 weeks?
The 100g a day is what Lyle McDonald indicates as being essential for good hormonal health, especially thyroid health. A lot of people get into trouble when they go low carb for too long even when they function very well on lower intakes. Their metabolism just goes down.. and from how your results look like, this seems like the same for you.
If you can maintain strength on 33/33/33 that sounds good, but that's just a %. How many calories were you thinking?
From the look of it.. your results after MetRepair & no/little exercise, seems like you maintain on 1400kcal or so w/o exercise. Perhaps 1700-ish with exercise? See if 1800 kcal makes you gain for the next 3-4 weeks?
yep something in that range is what I am thinking
for the temperature is it essential to take it before getting up is is 15 mins after getting up OK?
Note to self: TOM came today after 24 days, (I normally have a 28 day cycle give or take)
If you want to use the method to also monitor your fertility measuring before you get up is essential. Some take it the first time they wake up at night or take it plural times at night.. generally the body temp reaches its' lowest point when you are sound asleep so a too early reading will influence it.
Getting up already revs up your metabolism and the reading will be higher. I've got mine lying on the night table right next to me and it's the first thing I do in the morning.
DrRind (the link is also given in the temperature page of the Thyroid website) advices to take it several times of the day. If you are having adrenal problems daytime readings would also be interesting to monitor. Sometimes I take it at night and the difference is substantial .. generally at least 0.5°C higher.
What is truly interesting (for me) that overfeeding with carbs has a profound influence on the temp. I have often thought lifting weights does this, but when I shifted my refeed to the night before a workout, I've noticed things like a jump upwards after a refeed and a plunge down after a WO day, even when my calorie total (including the carbs) for a rest day would be lower than for a WO-day (excluding the carbs for the refeed). Not getting in enough food after a WO = bad news.
Just a few observations.
Oh, and re TOM.. you and me are now synchronized . Start of a new cycle is also the perfect timing to start temping. You being a gal that still gets visited by TOM is the main reason for tracking for an entire month , since the temps follow very distinct patterns. Lowest BBT is generally reached 1-2 days before I ovulate at CD13-15. I've seen that dieting and either eating very high or low carbs can totally mess with ovulation.
Hi, jane, yep they both have 1RM of 90kg at the moment, but want to try and get my squat up to x2 BW, a litttle ambitious I know
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Originally Posted by Espi
If you want to use the method to also monitor your fertility measuring before you get up is essential. Some take it the first time they wake up at night or take it plural times at night.. generally the body temp reaches its' lowest point when you are sound asleep so a too early reading will influence it.
Getting up already revs up your metabolism and the reading will be higher. I've got mine lying on the night table right next to me and it's the first thing I do in the morning.
DrRind (the link is also given in the temperature page of the Thyroid website) advices to take it several times of the day. If you are having adrenal problems daytime readings would also be interesting to monitor. Sometimes I take it at night and the difference is substantial .. generally at least 0.5°C higher.
What is truly interesting (for me) that overfeeding with carbs has a profound influence on the temp. I have often thought lifting weights does this, but when I shifted my refeed to the night before a workout, I've noticed things like a jump upwards after a refeed and a plunge down after a WO day, even when my calorie total (including the carbs) for a rest day would be lower than for a WO-day (excluding the carbs for the refeed). Not getting in enough food after a WO = bad news.
Just a few observations.
Oh, and re TOM.. you and me are now synchronized . Start of a new cycle is also the perfect timing to start temping. You being a gal that still gets visited by TOM is the main reason for tracking for an entire month , since the temps follow very distinct patterns. Lowest BBT is generally reached 1-2 days before I ovulate at CD13-15. I've seen that dieting and either eating very high or low carbs can totally mess with ovulation.
OK so I will set the alarm 5 mins earlier and have the thermometer by my bedside. Have you used the temperature method as a means of contraception too? i am quite interested in that!
Yes, I'm predominantly using it for contraception .. the other observation re to what happens after refeeds, workouts etc. are just a 'by-product' of it. Started doing it almost 2 years ago when a friend said I didn't have to use condoms all the time but would be safe after ovulation . So is a certain period before ovulation but this means using both temperature and cervix observations, in which I've only started getting proficient in the last few months , which was caused by not seeing any signs at all until I got my thyroid optimized.
I'd never have thought it would be so fascinating.
Cals 1700-2000: NO, bad planning on 1st day back c1500
Macros roughly 33/33/33: YES,
Water 2-3 litres : YES
Activity, Rest: YES
Sleep : NO didn't sleep well
Waking Body Temp : 36.6 C
Wt/Body fat% : 61.1, 20%
Hi tom, it is finished and I posted a table of results in the fatloss section acouple of days ago. I gained 4.5 lbs, 3.2%BF and lots of centimetres. Not sure what to think to be honest, but plan to try and maintain for a bit to try and see where maintenance is right now
That's 28 sets.. 10 sets for the main lifts is a bit overkill.
I'm going back to wave loading. That would be
1 warmup set for heavier wt stuff (perhaps even 2)
2 waves like 8-6-4 (wk1) going down to like 4-3-2 (wk4)
Ever tried wave loading?
In a deficit waves are too taxing though: can't believe you only eat 1500kcal now. If anything do something like 2000kcal on WO days and 1500 on rest days.. so you're closer to 1700kcal on average.
That's 28 sets.. 10 sets for the main lifts is a bit overkill.
I'm going back to wave loading. That would be
1 warmup set for heavier wt stuff (perhaps even 2)
2 waves like 8-6-4 (wk1) going down to like 4-3-2 (wk4)
Ever tried wave loading?
In a deficit waves are too taxing though: can't believe you only eat 1500kcal now. If anything do something like 2000kcal on WO days and 1500 on rest days.. so you're closer to 1700kcal on average.
no 1500 was an accident yesterday due to bad planning.I am aiming at assumed maintenance for a month or so. I ate 1800+ today.
nope never heard of wave loading. I have a lot to learn in making up my own workouts and I could tell today was too much.
Ascending 5x5 would be good enough when you're not eating in a surplus nor deficit.
Ascending means the weights go up and the first 2 sets act as warm up sets towards the final set that is almost a 5RM wt.
Wave loading is all about tricking your neural system into doing more reps or more weight than it normally would.
Do e.g. 8-6-4 reps with wt x-y-z say 50-60-70kg. Then you do another series but now with 52,5-62,5-72,5 kg . Ideally again with same 8-6-4 reps.
The most 'popular' wave uses 5-4-3 /5-4-3 reps, but I like to fixate the weights to be used in a 4wk pattern (following the cycle). Then I'll have myself end at the 3RM or 4RM wt in the 4th week and from there I will work my way down to the 1st week.
Say 3RM is 80kg.
I'd do like
wk 4: 57,5-67,5-77,5 / 60-70-80
wk 3: 55-65-75/57,5-67,5-77,5
wk 2: 52,5-62,5-72,5/55-65-75
wk 1: 50-60-70/52,5-62,5-72,5
See? That 70kg may be the 5RM , so I might start week 1 with say 7-6-5 or 8-6-4 reps..
The tricky part is deciding how big the jump needs to be in between sets and from week to week. You can also do them with lower reps but that's probably too much of a load for a wave.
Sometimes when we are bloated it's not as bad as it feels.
your waking BT is where it gets to its' lowest for me within a cycle. If your cycle is anything like mine I suspect your BT will go lower yet, since mine stays highish in the first week and then dips down to the lowest point around day 14 or so. I'd not be surprised if yours goes below 36C the next week. If it does, it's definitely a bit too low.
Sometimes when we are bloated it's not as bad as it feels.
your waking BT is where it gets to its' lowest for me within a cycle. If your cycle is anything like mine I suspect your BT will go lower yet, since mine stays highish in the first week and then dips down to the lowest point around day 14 or so. I'd not be surprised if yours goes below 36C the next week. If it does, it's definitely a bit too low.
thanks for the input, I was worrying a little about it falling each day. it is sure going to be interesting to see where it gets too.
yeh I probably should have weighed. I was just getting discouraged that it looks like I am still gaining !
As I said, I'm afraid your mtn looks like 1500ish to me, but that was w/o as much exercise as you do now, so 1800 seems like a good estimate to me.
36.3C would be really low for me now , and actually right now my BBT is substantially higher than it normally is (37.0C instead of the normal 36.7C for the time of cycle), which could be a combination of cycles getting wacky (staying high at the start), me being a bit sickly and the astounding amt of food I had last night..
and I know tomcats can leave a nasty spray
couldn't be as bad a skunk spray though
I did a new recipe from a cookbook my brother gave me for Christmas of North African.Eastern Mediterranean recipes.... Lome con Leche, pork cooked for 2 hours in milk with cinnamon and bay leaves..... I served it with mashed ^potatoes made with garlic and olive oil and a salad of roquette.
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