I don't have much to add here. I'm over the stomach bug thank God.
My foot is still sore I guess I shouldn't be surprised it's only been two and a half weeks since the fracture. I have just a slight limp and am tolerating activity better so am going to try and get back into exercising again but will need to make some modifications though. No aerobics or kickboxing maybe just stationary bike or possibly elliptical for cardio. I also want to do some modified weight training. Right now I think if I eliminate single leg exercises or anything that puts pressure on the ball/toe area and keep the weights light it should work out ok. This week I plan to try it out and see how it goes. I like total body weight training but maybe a split would be better for now. Anyway later today I just plan to run through a few exercises to see how I tolerate it and what can be done without putting pressure on the fracture.
I've slacked off some on food logging and preplanning my food intake the past two weeks so need to get back on track. It hasn't caused problems in that I'm still losing weight ever so slowly. And while the scale is moving very slowly downward the inches seem to be dropping more. I'm glad the challenge included measurements as that's something I typically don't do very often so at least I'm seeing a little progress. Yesterday I noticed that the pants I wore to work were quite a bit looser than I remembered. I do think I need to be more aggressive though.
I'm hoping to still be able to meet the challenge deadline but I still don't have pics yet. It was a very busy weekend and just wasn't a priority. Will see if hubby is available to take them tonight after work so there's hope yet.
But I am going ahead and posting here what I do have regarding measurements etc. I am seeing steady progress but it's still slower than what I'd like at least as far as scale weight goes. According to my food logging vs projected maintenance I should have lost about 15 lbs alltogether instead of 7 to 10. I'm not sure what to think about this. Perhaps I'm in need of a period of repair???? Or maybe there's nothing "wrong" it's a combination of water retention and the numbers being slightly off given that it's all just a guess. It's not like things are stalled and what I'm doing is sustainable/realistic it's just too slow for my liking. I'm also a little bit concerned that at my weight I'm not losing more on 1500 calories and what that would mean long term if I do drop to 1200 or 1300 calories now. Still pondering.
But I am going ahead and posting here what I do have regarding measurements etc. I am seeing steady progress but it's still slower than what I'd like at least as far as scale weight goes. According to my food logging vs projected maintenance I should have lost about 15 lbs alltogether instead of 7 to 10. I'm not sure what to think about this. Perhaps I'm in need of a period of repair???? Or maybe there's nothing "wrong" it's a combination of water retention and the numbers being slightly off given that it's all just a guess. It's not like things are stalled and what I'm doing is sustainable/realistic it's just too slow for my liking. I'm also a little bit concerned that at my weight I'm not losing more on 1500 calories and what that would mean long term if I do drop to 1200 or 1300 calories now. Still pondering.
Diana,
subscribed... I've just moved my log back here to JP Fitness from FLzine.com, and have subscribed to a bunch of others' logs as well as yours.
Glad we're both feeling better... now, no more injuries!! So we can hit the gym with a passion!
Your story above could be mine. I keep wondering whether to lower my calories 100cal to see if I can get better results. Resisting so far; want to leave room for lower calories when closer to goal weight.
all the best! nice progress charts. Where do you keep these online, so that you can post them here? They're so pretty.
Your story above could be mine. I keep wondering whether to lower my calories 100cal to see if I can get better results. Resisting so far; want to leave room for lower calories when closer to goal weight.
all the best! nice progress charts. Where do you keep these online, so that you can post them here? They're so pretty.
Yeah,
I'm being careful about dropping calories too as I'm wondering what that will leave me if I ever hit onederland. When I brought this up in a thread on FLTS Leigh also said she thought I would be retaining more water than average...
The charts are from Numbers. They're all in Crosstrainer also but for the challenge it's actually easier to keep everything separate. I post to photobucket and then load here.
I'm being careful about dropping calories too as I'm wondering what that will leave me if I ever hit onederland. When I brought this up in a thread on FLTS Leigh also said she thought I would be retaining more water than average...
The charts are from Numbers. They're all in Crosstrainer also but for the challenge it's actually easier to keep everything separate. I post to photobucket and then load here.
1. How much water do you drink daily?
2. Why does Leigh think you retain more water than average?
3. Is Numbers an iWork spreadsheet application? I just googled...
4. Do you keep all your charts in Photobucket and let them pile up, or do you delete them? Somehow it's hard to get my head wrapped around dumping my linegraphs or spreadsheets into photobucket. I know technically "how" but seems weird to me to put monthly charts on a public photo site. But that's just me not adapting to changing technology, I guess.
thanks!
1. How much water do you drink daily?
2. Why does Leigh think you retain more water than average?
3. Is Numbers an iWork spreadsheet application? I just googled...
4. Do you keep all your charts in Photobucket and let them pile up, or do you delete them? Somehow it's hard to get my head wrapped around dumping my linegraphs or spreadsheets into photobucket. I know technically "how" but seems weird to me to put monthly charts on a public photo site. But that's just me not adapting to changing technology, I guess.
thanks!
Answers:
1. Don't really track water/fluid intake hasn't been a priority but I drink a fair bit. Certainly not dehydrated.
2. Basically my weight, moderate carb intake, estrogen etc. Here's the thread where it was discussed. Question about evaluating results
3. Numbers is Mac's I-work version of Excell.
4. You can link them directly from your computer but they come in as thumbnails. I like the bigger size that you get when pasting from photobucket so don't mind the extra step. I'm only doing this because of the challenge so for now I haven't deleted anything. I probably eventually will. I also figure that no one is looking at the photobucket album but me so it doesn't bother me. That's all I use it for I don't have a general photo album. I don't even have a camera that I know how to use that's all my hubby's domain.
Looks like your trend is heading in the right direction. I think in the end that's what counts. We'd all like it faster, but as long as it keeps moving down we'll get there eventually.
Looks like your trend is heading in the right direction. I think in the end that's what counts. We'd all like it faster, but as long as it keeps moving down we'll get there eventually.
That's true and also I need to keep in mind that over the course of a year I have lost 20lbs taking my high and low weights. So it's not like I'm stalled.
What I really should do sometime is do the numbers with weight lost and average caloric intake and calculate maintenance from there.
Probably not today though. My poor daughter just had her third root canal yesterday in less than a year. They're not sure why she's had so many she's only 18. Anyway yesterday's didn't go so well. A file broke off in the root and so they need to send her out to a specialist of which there aren't too many. The dentist is working on getting her in somewhere today. I don't know what will be involved here but it'll probably be time consuming as the root canals are usually an hour and a half by themselves. I might ask for conscious sedation/anesthesia also cause even yesterday with multiple shots she didn't numb up completely. And it's only getting more inflamed now. Anyway we'll see. For now I'm hanging by the phone waiting for a call back.
Although I must admit I'm very pleased with my dentist. It's not even 8:30 yet and I've talked to them 3 times this morning so far.
__________________ It all starts with the mind, but the thoughts, the intention aren't enough. Action needs to come next. Dream it, believe it, plan it, execute it, celebrate it. - Wendy
No kidding. She's going to end up with 4 root canals in less than two weeks here before we're done. They couldn't get the file today out but they were able to bypass it and clean out the canals which hopefully will settle things down a bit. And next week they'll try to get it again. If they can't get it and it continues to be a problem then she'll probably need surgery to split the tooth and get it out. But at least that can wait till after Japan. (She leaves in three weeks so am glad to get this done
now.)
I have never had to have a root canal hardly even get cavities although I do make up for it in placque buildup. (I tend to build up 2 or 3 years worth in 6 months.) My hubby has needed tons of root canals though and looks like Rach inherited daddy's mouth.
OMG, your poor daughter!! I hate the dentist and I've only had ONE cavity my entire life!!! LOL!
When I got that cavity, I was sweating so bad and having a panic attack over it! And, it was a little itty bitty one. My dentist heated up the novacaine for me so I wouldn't feel the coldness of it.....I'm such a baby. Lucky for me I have a dentist who treats me just like the baby I am.
Had a root canal go really bad down here in the Olympia area. Finally got referred to a specialist in Tacoma. He did a little remedial work, and said that it likely would not resolve, but give it a few months more. He was right, but nice to get a real answer. Ended up with an implant.
She's laying down right now. It will be pasta city for the next couple of days though.
She's a trooper. I think the worst part is that she doesn't didn't stay numb for long though. I think they gave her 6 shots yesterday and 3 or 4 today. That creeps me out more than anything.
Thank God the bulk of her school work was all done with all the missed school. She's a senior so was done with everything but Japanese. Tuesday is supposed to be her last day of high school. Hopefully she won't have to go in later to make up the work.
Anyway thanks for the comments and support everyone.
Too bad about your daughter inheriting teeth from her dad. Me too. I have terrible soft teeth, tons of root canals, now I have 3 implants on each side top.. done in the past 4 years, luckily, when I finally have a job where I can afford them.
I've been pretty healthy my life, but dental cost/issues always. And U.S. has no socialized medicine. When I travelled and saw how European gov'ts took care of these things, from the taxes their citizens paid, and then I compared it to US, I realized I'd have to leave my Dreamer hippie lifestyle and enter the reality of U.S. expenses and take care of yourself or be poor and toothless.
I hope they can get that file chip out once the swelling goes down.
I think I'm starting to get a better handle on maintenance for me which is interesting as there's several different numbers/estimates.
1. Harris Benedict BMR 1834 x 1.55 (which is exercising 3 to 5 days/week) puts me at 2844. For years I've known this isn't right. If I ate this I'd be 400lbs or more. Weight loss plans setting up the deficit based on this maintenance didn't work.
2. Leigh's activity quiz gives me a multiplier of 1.3 to 1.4. Better puts me at 2385 to 2569. And once I got GWF that pretty much had me averaging 2300-2500. And I found that I could regularly eat about 2200-2500 calories during a 2 week diet break without weight gain. This puts me at 9 to 10 calories per pound for maintenance. A lot of programs say to eat 9 to 10 calories per pound for weight loss not maintenance. And I slowly am losing weight on average 1600 or so calorie intake but certainly not the 1 to 1 1/2 lbs a week my 700-800 calorie deficit should be giving me.
So is there water weight masking this? Maybe some but I don't think the weight loss trend supports this and there aren't a whole lot of fluctuations that usually occur with water retention. I do have a lot of swelling though my GWF and medical ID both leave indentations on my arm.
3. Comparing actual weight loss to calories eaten (Jan through April as May has a lot of missed food logging days) puts my maintenance right around 2,000 calories.
Kind of explains a lot I think. Why it was easy to gain the weight in the first place and why despite following various meal plans over the years I wasn't/aren't losing much weight. So...Thinking back I think I've always had lower maintenance needs at least as long as I've been obese which has been several years now. Not sure why though. I don't think there's anything wrong in terms of needing repair Leigh style. I don't have any other symptoms of chronic dieting down and overtraining yada yada yada.
Also I can't help but think/wonder what if the diabetes is a contributing factor here? There's no cure for diabetes so my reasoning is that if it is a contributing factor to a lower maintenance then I can't change that. Warning rant coming. One thing that pisses me off today is the prevailing attitude that type 2 diabetes is all your fault if you didn't get fat in the first place this wouldn't have happened. Lifestyle is a huge contributing factor but everybody seems to discount the physiological and genetic aspects. Or not even consider that perhaps there's somewhat of a which came first the chicken or the egg issue here? In other words did the weight gain contribute to the diabetes or is it the other way around or maybe some combination of the two. There's a huge number of overweight and obese people who do not have diabetes and never will. There are people who are normal weight, eat healthy, exercise and they have type 2 diabetes also. Well guess what weight loss doesn't cure diabetes. Eating healthy doesn't cure diabetes. Neither does exercise. So do ya think maybe there might be a little less harping that you brought this on yourself???? Don't get me wrong here. I believe in taking responsibility and in trying to help yourself be healthier and in making better lifestyle choices. Especially so if you have diabetes or high blood pressure or tend to pack on the pounds, etc. I get just as irritated with those people on the whole opposite end of the spectrum who won't help themselves and blame their genes or their thyroid or their big toe or whatever for their problems and refuse to think that a 1500 calorie fast food meal might have something to do with it too. But right now I am more tired of the blame game that is so prevalent today regarding so many issues like weight gain, obesity, diabetes, heart disease, etc. Ok Rant over.
My main point here before I went off on my vent is that I have a better idea of where I stand. My maintenance may be low but I don't necessarily think it's abnormal given all the circumstances. It is what it is. What that does do is give me some reassurance that lowering calories more won't be a problem at least not from a physiological standpoint. Now whether it'll be something I can stick to or not we'll have to see. But I am going to try to keep my calories in somewhere between 1200 and 1500 and see what happens.
I just wanted to pop in and say that slow losses are A-OK. We all may want it faster, but sometimes the body just doesn't. You are taking the right steps and making progress, so just keep it up!
Good rant BTW... genetics has a LOT to do with stuff! I mean, I certainly had the lifestyle that could lead to diabetes for a good long while, and I've always been somewhat overweight. And I do not have diabetes or even close according to the doc. And no high blood pressure or cholesterol issues either. And I pretty well LIVED on processed foods, fast foods and junk for the time I was in college and after.
And then there was my granddad... RAIL THIN, and had high blood pressure and cholesterol issues, and died of a sudden heart attack. He also walked a lot, so he was not sedentary either. Go figure! My dad also had the high blood pressure and cholesterol (and I got my early addiction to Doritos from him) but again, he was only slightly chubby and was fairly active. Lots of dog walking, hunting, fishing, that kind of thing.
I look just like my Dad... but I don't appear to have inherited the high blood pressure/cholesterol stuff whatsoever. So I really think a lot is just the genetic roll of the dice. My doctor pretty well told me exactly that. Though, whatever roll we've got, we have to cope with! And you are doing well!
Diana - you are right. She just posted an article on two oral diabetic drugs and their serious side affects, as well as how they worded the abstract so as to say the opposite.
Only have time for a brief update. It's been a month since I hurt my foot/fractured my toe but it's finally starting to feel almost normal.
Training has been non-existant. I'd tentatively start back up and end up with increased pain and swelling so end up backing off again. And I'm so bad at doing stuff like well just do upper body work instead or the bike or making do if I can't hit my preferred weight training routine. Especially for short term injuries.
It would appear the root canal saga with Rachel is mostly over now. They never got the file but did get the problem tooth cleared out real well and she's pain free. Which is a good thing as she leaves for Japan Wednesday. When she gets back she'll still need her permanent fillings/crowns done and it's possible they'll need to do more root canal work on the first one but we're on the home stretch.
1200 calories sucks and I'm not doing so well with it compliance wise even with the decreased activity. Maybe 1400-1500 would be more reasonable. And I am losing weight on 1600-1700 calories but only losing 2 or 3 lbs a month is just too slow.
Anyway will sort more of this out specifically after Wednesday. In the meantime still have a ton of things to do before the kiddo is off to the other side of the world.
I kind of answered your question in my log, but I admit that I really don't overthink it much at the moment. At the end of the month I usually go through a bit of a calculation to see where I'm at. For the first 20 days of June:
2058 calories per day in food
-349 calories per day of exercise that I track
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1709 calories per day (what I have left)
Based on 5.8 lbs lost from June 1st to June 20th - that works out to a deficit of (5.8 x 3500 / 20 days):
1015 calories per day
So, I'm assuming that my maintenance is around 2724 cals / day.
It really doesn't mean anything, but as long as I continue to lose ~1.5/week or more I guess I don't look at it too closely. I looked back a few months and got this:
Calories
Exer.
Deficit
Maint ?
Mar
2014
50
700
2664
Feb
2066
85
525
2506
Jan
2106
273
948
2781
Dec
way
too
much
estimation
Nov
2334
66
467
2735
Oct
2115
174
1016
2957
Sep
2396
161
980
3215
What it says to me is that I do better with more exercise. I seem to get a better deficit, and a higher maintenance. It could just be that I watch my food more when I'm working out. Who knows. However, as I said, I really don't pay attention to it that much as long as I'm losing weight. In the end I just went back to 2000 calories because I wasn't sticking to 1900 with much enthusiasm. As well, I'm naturally a little more active in the summer so I figured it wouldn't be a problem.
I know, that doesn't really help you. Just thought I'd give you some of my thought process.
Ack!!!! Lots of stuff going on final prep before Rach leaves for Japan bright and early tomorrow.
Even though she'll still be living at home this upcoming year it is really hitting home that she's grown up now and the whole empty nest syndrome is rapidly becoming a reality. She's graduated and on her way to adulthood. Ack!!!
As much as I think Leigh is very smart about fat loss in general, I have mixed emotions about her 'get in get out' attitude. I know for myself I need to make sure that I can maintain what I do. Cutting calories more might bring me faster weight loss, however, in the past that has always led to rampant overeating eventually. With having a lot to lose, I think it's important to find a new way of eating. I might feel different as I get closer to goal, but it's not so easy to get in/get out when you start with a large amount of weight to lose. I've seen a lot of examples of women who start with large/fast losses and can't maintain that style of eating. They often end up almost back where they started. Those high losses give them a lot of encouragement, but they can't keep up the restriction.
Anne, I think you ARE doing "get in and get out!" your graph just keeps going down down down. That's what she means, not losing 4 lbs per week.
Only have time for a brief update. It's been a month since I hurt my foot/fractured my toe but it's finally starting to feel almost normal.
Training has been non-existant. I'd tentatively start back up and end up with increased pain and swelling so end up backing off again. And I'm so bad at doing stuff like well just do upper body work instead or the bike
It would appear the root canal saga with Rachel is mostly over now.
1200 calories sucks and I'm not doing so well with it compliance wise even with the decreased activity. Maybe 1400-1500 would be more reasonable. And I am losing weight on 1600-1700 calories but only losing 2 or 3 lbs a month is just too slow.
just caught up on your log... Will be interested to see how you do on lower calories. If you're hungry can you increase your protein? If you think of it that 1100 is your target than reaching 1200 is kind of a treat.. That's what's happening with me now, trying to hit 1100, I find 1200 is easy!! hahaaha
This hasn't been the best week diet wise. I've been accidentally eating things like a bag of potato chips and a bacon cheeseburger with fries and a blackraspberry shake, etc. Rachel being in Japan really kind of threw me for a loop.
But we finally got a two sentence email from her today and all is well she's having a blast so that has set my mind at ease. Plus the teacher is sending us detailed reports. She's growing up though. Waaaahh!!!!!!
Anyway I do seem to be getting back on track again. Fortunately I am not very often a binge eater (only with potato chips) and neither do I very often stray because I'm stressed out so getting back on track doesn't seem to be too hard.
Etana to answer your question I don't think getting more protein will help with aiming for 1200 calories. I'm already trying to get in 130-150 grams daily which still seems like too much protein to me and it hasn't appeared to affect my appetite much either way. But I was trying it as that was the amount Leigh recommended I have.
I think my problem with lower calories is that typically my compliance is better overall with a flexible diet and one that is more balanced in macros rather than so protein heavy. 1200 calories doesn't have much room for either one. Haven't figured out my specific meal plan yet will tackle that later but probably will end up being closer to 1500 calories with 100-120 grams of protein, enough carbs to allow for small servings of fruit or whole grains and starchy veggies in addition to veggies (100 grams including fiber is more than enough to keep me happy) and adequate to higher fat intake.
Right now need to head outside and take advantage of the nicer weather and mow the lawn. More later.
Oh and Friday at work I found out I'm getting a $1.25 hour raise plus (drum roll) a $2,000 dollar bonus. That's awesome and totally surprising especially with the economy the way it is. I have a great boss and excellent coworkers.
Yum! Our boysenberries are starting to show colour and I'm thinking vanilla protein powder and frozen berries sound really good. I know, silly to freeze fresh berries, but they blend up better than ice cubes.
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Originally Posted by dianas
Oh and Friday at work I found out I'm getting a $1.25 hour raise plus (drum roll) a $2,000 dollar bonus. That's awesome and totally surprising especially with the economy the way it is. I have a great boss and excellent coworkers.
Yay on the raise and the bonus! Some companies hold them off so long in poor economies, so it's nice that yours isn't.
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