JP Fitness Forums powered by fitness insite  
Google
 
Web forums.jpfitness.com

Go Back   JP Fitness Forums > Training Logs and Journals > The Training Log
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

The Training Log Log your workouts here.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-04-2008, 01:25 PM   #91 (permalink)
that's me on the left
 
CloveApple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 893
Default mirrors and me

11/3/08, Monday

My regular Monday session with Andrew. Can't say I was entirely motivated as my unspoken thought several times was "Can we stop now?"

On the other hand it was so so good to have pain and soreness that was not bad pain. My hip twinged some later in the evening, but getting to 9 or 10 PM before it did that was pretty damn good. As I write this on Tuesday my legs and butt are still complaining, but it's all good.

Andrew introduced me to the idea of Nordic Walking. Got to say I'm intrigued.

Reviewed clamshells because I think I was doing them wrong on my own. Still not confident about them, because I can feel when I start doing them right but I don't entirely get the slight changes I need to make to be using the right muscle. Something to work on.

Did a similar but straight legged exercise I have no name for.

Did quadrupeds.

Andrew showed me a way to up the difficulty (and bring in core muscles more) on the cable-cross twist by using a ball. Also he changed how I'm doing the low pull, again using a ball.

I dunno if anybody else is like this, but I have trouble getting feedback from the gym mirrors. I think I normally avoid seeing myself in them without even being aware that I'm avoiding them. I guess I don't normally look at myself in full length mirrors . I glance at the bathroom mirror to see what my hair is doing and that's about it.

But then several times I've been asked to watch my form in the gym mirrors and, well, I can't see it. I can't really see anything because I just get lost in body shame and can't get past that to SEE what I am doing. I'm just aware of the desire to look away.

I'm not very good about knowing where my body is in space or remembering motions. So I'm always happy when Andrew cues me a different way and I get it all of a sudden, or a motion starts coming together. Still, he's not always there and at the end of the day it's something I have to be able to do myself.

So I've been thinking about my reluctance to look in the mirror and whether that is part of my trouble with self-awareness. In other words, what I think of as two separate problems may all be one single knot. Maybe I don't WANT to be aware of myself.

Having said all that, I don't quite know what to do with it except that I think I'll be buying a full length mirror in the next week or so.
__________________
"Time and patience are the 2 elements that most people don't include in their plans."
-Alan Aragon

"The scale simply tells you how much the earth loves you on a particular day."
-Ogedei (Keith)

my log: The Big Stretch
graphs & data: daily weight & occasional BP
. (more graphs run down right hand side,
. latest weight at bottom of page)

CloveApple is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-05-2008, 09:31 AM   #92 (permalink)
nobody's ass-kisser
 
Espi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: NLs
Posts: 5,826
Default

CloveApple, reading in your log is a pure joy! Currently on p.2

You in a produce stand.. battling the hills on your way home and that fun link you gave to the height/wt chart : Photographic Height

And the entire adventure of trying to get the macros 'right' after you are on a calories-right quest. As for determining mtn .. it's sometimes hard, esp when your carbs are all over the place and you can gain/lose water weight from eating more/less carbs. And of course AuntFlo's whoremoans making you retain as well as your BP .. are you really influenced by salt (big water retentention & higher BP after more sodium?). Not everyone's BP can be lowered /raised by a low/high sodium intake.

Now.. I'll be reading on

So.. you are in good company .. Karla also contated Alan as her nutrition and it seems both you and her are very pleased about it!

As for the mirror.
While you may not like looking into the mirror now, it is important to do so to check on form. On some exercises it is better to not do it, but to have someone put you on video. Even with a mirror there's still 101 things that go wrong. If I'd asked SO sooner to record my DL & front squat I'd have spotted mistakes earlier.. so do this now, so you won't regret 5 years down the road. At least you've got a trainer once a week..

My avi is the first pic taken with the new mirror in our home.. my very very first (near) full-size mirror I've ever bought or owned. It's full-size for me , but not quite full-size for my SO.. or rather too low for him. Before I was never comfortable enough to own one (and was also contemplating on where to hang it), so buying one was a huge step!
__________________
Ergo-log: news & KB on legal & illegal ergogenic aids
Poliquin: "There's no overtraining, only undereating" --> to undereat, don't overtrain!"
Burgener: "There's no overtraining, only underrecovery" --> sleep, rest & recover
journal: Go with the flow
Espi is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-06-2008, 03:36 PM   #93 (permalink)
Fitness Junkie
 
brwnsgr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Arizona
Posts: 145
Default

Quote:
I really love not having to weigh stuff anymore. I don't think I realized how nuts that was making me till I felt like I could stop. Sometimes I still do, but that's mostly stuff that's easier to measure that way or just me being anal.
I know that this is often recommended, but I could never bring myself to weigh my food. I knew that if I tried, I probably would have lost interest...FAST.

Quote:
Unfortunately there are some lousy ones out there. (Like the one that recommended chicken to me as a good source of vegetarian protein --I kid you not! Needless to say I didn't bother going back. She also said a few other things that just made me embarrassed for her, but the chicken one...wow.)
Sounds like something Jessica Simpson would say...

Quote:
I'd recommend Alan Aragon in a heartbeat, and I think it's worth looking for someone good for sure.
I know that I've been MIA (a bad habit that I've picked up), but I did appreciate you getting back to me and sharing your thoughts. When it comes to competition time (GASP!), I know that I will definitely need to work with someone that has knowledge of the proper competition diet, but it would be nice to have a solid nutrition foundation before that.
__________________
My Fitness Journey
brwnsgr is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2008, 01:17 AM   #94 (permalink)
that's me on the left
 
CloveApple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 893
Default

Thanks for the compliment Espi; it's nice to see you here.

About the salt. I'm not sure whether sodium affects my blood pressure or not. I've come to the conclusion that whether it does or not, the extra weight has a far bigger effect on my blood pressure. So I've slacked off on eating low sodium and am keeping my focus right now on slowly but steadily keeping up the fat loss.

You are right about the mirror. I guess it's one of those "growth" experiences that I'd sometimes like to skip, but that lead to good things in the long run. I'll keep the video idea in mind, though right now I'm not sure I have a way to take one.
__________________
"Time and patience are the 2 elements that most people don't include in their plans."
-Alan Aragon

"The scale simply tells you how much the earth loves you on a particular day."
-Ogedei (Keith)

my log: The Big Stretch
graphs & data: daily weight & occasional BP
. (more graphs run down right hand side,
. latest weight at bottom of page)

CloveApple is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 01:50 PM   #95 (permalink)
that's me on the left
 
CloveApple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 893
Default Adventures in Cooking

11/06/08, Thursday
Thursday was a cooking adventure. I went over to my friend Berta's to cook a bunch of stuff and freeze portions for the future. I also had planned it as a "junk meal" since I knew I'd want to sample everything. ("Junk meal" meaning it would be something I wouldn't eat as an everyday habit, but could budget it in by dropping out calories earlier in the day.)

I wanted to see how close I could get to the macros I'm aiming for in a vegetarian meal and I spent way too long trying to find a good way to calculate everything. Finally I ended up just telling Calorie King that the entire recipe was what I had for supper. Silly klutzy method, but it gave me the macros and then I just tweaked away.

The "lasagna" we modified turned out scrumptious, but since I'd been so focused on the macros as percentages I lost sight of the calories and when I figured out portion size there was hardly any left over to freeze once we had had supper! Also since I spent so much time figuring stuff out, we ran late and never made all we'd planned. So we didn't freeze much at all.

But was I thinking about how we hadn't frozen much? Well, a little bit, but mostly I was obsessed with the junk meal that hadn't happened. I'd gotten completely and ridiculously fixated on the flan Berta was planning, and now that it had gotten taken away I was a tragic heroine in mourning.

I decided to get some pumpkin pie so I raced on my bike to the co-op deli before it closed to get some pumpkin pie on the way home. I made it there just in time, but they had no pumpkin pie. It was actually kind of funny for someone like me (with a long history of bingeing) to have so much trouble putting together a junk meal.

After deliberations that would have impressed a jury, I settled on an apple crisp and ate it after biking home.

We took some food porn pictures, but I'm waiting to get them in email so I can post them.
__________________
"Time and patience are the 2 elements that most people don't include in their plans."
-Alan Aragon

"The scale simply tells you how much the earth loves you on a particular day."
-Ogedei (Keith)

my log: The Big Stretch
graphs & data: daily weight & occasional BP
. (more graphs run down right hand side,
. latest weight at bottom of page)

CloveApple is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 01:54 PM   #96 (permalink)
that's me on the left
 
CloveApple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 893
Default

11/09/08, Sunday
I did intervals on the elliptical. I missed the first sprint altogether, and after that I was hitting them but often slightly late and usually near the bottom of the range. I was just really distractable and unfocused.

11/10/08, Monday
My usual session with Andrew. Spent a bit of time talking then hit the weights. 10 reps per set and at least 2 sets and sometimes 3, though I was losing track & by now don't remember exactly on some.

One Legged Romanian Deadlift w/DB 8#
Ball Wall Squat one set w/5#, then 2 w/ 20#
Bench Press one set 45#, one sets 50#, hit failure after 7 reps on third set
DB Row 20#
DB Triceps Ball Swim 7.5# each DB
__________________
"Time and patience are the 2 elements that most people don't include in their plans."
-Alan Aragon

"The scale simply tells you how much the earth loves you on a particular day."
-Ogedei (Keith)

my log: The Big Stretch
graphs & data: daily weight & occasional BP
. (more graphs run down right hand side,
. latest weight at bottom of page)

CloveApple is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 04:21 PM   #97 (permalink)
nobody's ass-kisser
 
Espi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: NLs
Posts: 5,826
Default

LOL'd at your description of the predicament you were in: the junk meal that never truly happened.
__________________
Ergo-log: news & KB on legal & illegal ergogenic aids
Poliquin: "There's no overtraining, only undereating" --> to undereat, don't overtrain!"
Burgener: "There's no overtraining, only underrecovery" --> sleep, rest & recover
journal: Go with the flow
Espi is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 07:09 PM   #98 (permalink)
Fitness Junkie
 
brwnsgr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Arizona
Posts: 145
Default

Hey, lady! So good to "see" you back. There's a good vibe coming from your post...does this mean things are going well (work, your hip...)?
__________________
My Fitness Journey
brwnsgr is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2008, 08:40 PM   #99 (permalink)
Anne
 
realcdn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 5,846
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CloveApple View Post
After deliberations that would have impressed a jury, I settled on an apple crisp and ate it after biking home.
I've done that a couple of times, gone to the store knowing I could choose something up to (whatever calorie limit I had set) and most of the time coming back without buying anything. I've thought a couple of time about haagen daz, even considering splitting up a pint (I could easily work it in), but never got to the point of actually buying it this summer.
realcdn is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2008, 11:12 AM   #100 (permalink)
that's me on the left
 
CloveApple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 893
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brwnsgr View Post
Hey, lady! So good to "see" you back. There's a good vibe coming from your post...does this mean things are going well (work, your hip...)?
Good to see you too.

Yup, things are definitely better. While this new job site is definitely going to be a ... challenge, it's going smoother than it was. It was bad beyond belief the first week. I'd get home and just want to crawl into bed and stay there. Now I'm still worried about it and it still sucks, but I think I might be able to do it right if I really dig in, and I'm starting to find some positives.

And the hip is definitely doing better. When I read your post I suddenly realized it hadn't hurt all day yesterday. I think that's a first.

I haven't written about this here, but the other thing that's going well is good news about my dad. There was a possibility he had lung cancer and we were all holding our breaths, but we got the news Tuesday that the growth is benign.

I'm still concerned about him as it looks like he has inherited a kidney disease that is getting serious (waiting on his appointment with an expert for details) and he's got other health issues, but nothing else is as scary as the spot on his lung was.

Man, that sounds more negative than I meant it too, but it's been a rough time. This board has been one of the bright spots lately, and oddly enough so has the food side of things.

I just have to remember that really I'm pretty lucky:
I have a job that means something.
I have a reputation for being good at it (and once I get my feet under me, I'll be good at it again.)
I'm still losing fat and people ask me how I'm doing it.
I have access to a gym I really like and feel comfortable with.
I work with an awesome trainer.
I feel like I'm in a much more stable place with food and eating.

So really I'm in a pretty good place.
__________________
"Time and patience are the 2 elements that most people don't include in their plans."
-Alan Aragon

"The scale simply tells you how much the earth loves you on a particular day."
-Ogedei (Keith)

my log: The Big Stretch
graphs & data: daily weight & occasional BP
. (more graphs run down right hand side,
. latest weight at bottom of page)

CloveApple is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2008, 12:51 PM   #101 (permalink)
that's me on the left
 
CloveApple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 893
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by realcdn View Post
I've done that a couple of times, gone to the store knowing I could choose something up to (whatever calorie limit I had set) and most of the time coming back without buying anything. I've thought a couple of time about haagen daz, even considering splitting up a pint (I could easily work it in), but never got to the point of actually buying it this summer.
People are so funny sometimes aren't they? I know I am.

I don't know if I would manage to actually split up a pint of Haagen Daz or if I'd just scarf the whole thing. I'm fairly sure that the answer is that I'd carefully split it up and eat my measured portion, then later in the evening raid the rest.

I've just started experimenting with keeping some individually portioned snack items or carby stuff on hand that aren't on my everyday plan, but that fit in on training days or junk meal days. So far (2 days and counting) it's working but we'll see.
__________________
"Time and patience are the 2 elements that most people don't include in their plans."
-Alan Aragon

"The scale simply tells you how much the earth loves you on a particular day."
-Ogedei (Keith)

my log: The Big Stretch
graphs & data: daily weight & occasional BP
. (more graphs run down right hand side,
. latest weight at bottom of page)

CloveApple is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-13-2008, 01:13 PM   #102 (permalink)
nobody's ass-kisser
 
Espi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: NLs
Posts: 5,826
Default

Quote:
I don't know if I would manage to actually split up a pint of Haagen Daz or if I'd just scarf the whole thing. I'm fairly sure that the answer is that I'd carefully split it up and eat my measured portion, then later in the evening raid the rest.
Oh my goodness this sounds SO familiar

Yet.. somehow , while I love ice cream, ice cream cartons can sometimes sit in my freezer for months on end. I've still got a jar of sherbet (?) from several months ago and then the HD-knockoff (supermarket brand that replaced the real thing but tastes really good too ) I bought 2 days ago might also sit in there for a few months.. but then be devoured within 1 day or sometimes even with 30 minutes!
At least it will be winter then.. As soon as all of the meat/chicken/fish and veggies are gone .. the Big Thaw will happen.
So that icecream will need to be eaten sooner as the chest freezer is really really having too much ice on it.. don't you hate that de-thawing stuff?

PS: there are miniature HD-jars in a hyoooge supermarket about 30minutes away from here where I go to about 3 times/year, and I did carry home some. So not all is lost.
Better yet.. there's 2 Italian ice cream parlors in town.. now only one as the other one is closed for winter. But that's also an excellent way to eat smaller amounts of premium-quality IC
__________________
Ergo-log: news & KB on legal & illegal ergogenic aids
Poliquin: "There's no overtraining, only undereating" --> to undereat, don't overtrain!"
Burgener: "There's no overtraining, only underrecovery" --> sleep, rest & recover
journal: Go with the flow
Espi is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-14-2008, 11:11 PM   #103 (permalink)
that's me on the left
 
CloveApple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 893
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Espi View Post
Oh my goodness this sounds SO familiar

Yet.. somehow , while I love ice cream, ice cream cartons can sometimes sit in my freezer for months on end. I've still got a jar of sherbet (?) from several months ago and then the HD-knockoff (supermarket brand that replaced the real thing but tastes really good too ) I bought 2 days ago might also sit in there for a few months.. but then be devoured within 1 day or sometimes even with 30 minutes!
At least it will be winter then.. As soon as all of the meat/chicken/fish and veggies are gone .. the Big Thaw will happen.
So that icecream will need to be eaten sooner as the chest freezer is really really having too much ice on it.. don't you hate that de-thawing stuff?

PS: there are miniature HD-jars in a hyoooge supermarket about 30minutes away from here where I go to about 3 times/year, and I did carry home some. So not all is lost.
Better yet.. there's 2 Italian ice cream parlors in town.. now only one as the other one is closed for winter. But that's also an excellent way to eat smaller amounts of premium-quality IC
Wow, just wow. I've never kept ice cream around longer than a day. (Though I guess that's not true now. I have a mini low-cal container of ice cream that's lasted 3 days now without being touched. Maybe I'm changing more than I realize.)

I have to defrost my own freezer soon. It's looking like the North Pole in there. I'm not even sure what all is in there. Maybe I'll find elves or reindeer.

I was eying those mini ice cream cartons of premium ice cream at my own supermarket the other day. They're just a little higher calorie than I can easily work in, but a local ice cream maker makes incredibly rich and yummy 4 oz packages that I might pick up if I can find a store that carries them.
__________________
"Time and patience are the 2 elements that most people don't include in their plans."
-Alan Aragon

"The scale simply tells you how much the earth loves you on a particular day."
-Ogedei (Keith)

my log: The Big Stretch
graphs & data: daily weight & occasional BP
. (more graphs run down right hand side,
. latest weight at bottom of page)

CloveApple is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2008, 12:37 AM   #104 (permalink)
that's me on the left
 
CloveApple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 893
Default

11/14/08, Friday

Biked to the gym. I was procrastinating like mad so I got there late and barely had time to do weights.

I couldn't quite remember two modifications Andrew had introduced, so after a moment of confusion I shrugged, did the old versions, and made a mental note to ask him. I could tell I have lost some ground on several things, so it's my goal to get that strength back. I still have trouble with hip abduction on the left side so I stayed a little low on that. My hip is acting a little funky as I type this, but not really hurting.

They are all 3 sets of 10 reps each unless it says otherwise. (The numbers are from the numbers on the plates, so not always actual pounds; +5 is adding a 5 pound weight.)

cable cross twist: 30
cable cross shoulder press: 15
low pull: 5.5
triceps pull down: 5.5
hip sled: bar+35# plate, first set both legs, then next two sets each leg separately
hip abductor: 8 (still keeping the lower weight I've dropped down to)
hip adductor: 9
shoulder press: 62.5, hit failure after5 on second set and 3 on 3rd set
seated chest press: 65+10, hit failure after 9 on 3rd set

On other fronts
I did pick up an almost-full-length mirror earlier in the week and am surprised to be coexisting peacefully with it.

I'm looking at ways to up my fiber intake without mucking up my food plan as my body is complaining about the drop in fiber. (In spite of this, how I'm eating still feels better for me than what I was doing before. My energy levels are so much more stable and I basicly feel better in most ways.)

I picked up some Fiber One cereal to try, but it has aspartame in the ingredients, so it's out. Never occurred to me to check the ingredients for that.

Had some more to say, but I'm too tired to make it coherent.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~
This post has been brought to you by the word "lignan."

Lignans are one of the types of estrogen-like compounds (aka phytoestrogens) found in plants. Flax seeds and sesame seeds are the biggest sources of lignans.
__________________
"Time and patience are the 2 elements that most people don't include in their plans."
-Alan Aragon

"The scale simply tells you how much the earth loves you on a particular day."
-Ogedei (Keith)

my log: The Big Stretch
graphs & data: daily weight & occasional BP
. (more graphs run down right hand side,
. latest weight at bottom of page)


Last edited by CloveApple : 11-15-2008 at 12:40 AM. Reason: messed up reps
CloveApple is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2008, 02:40 AM   #105 (permalink)
that's me on the left
 
CloveApple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 893
Default

11/13/08, Thursday

Ooops! Missed posting this day. (I did say I was tired didn't I?)

Some core exercises and rehab stuff for the hip. Then I did intervals using a heart rate monitor on the elliptical.

Upped the zones based on my resting heart rate. This workout was definitely one of those "never tell your trainer it's too easy" moments. (Well not really, but the thought sure crossed my mind.)

The re-figured zones kicked my butt but good. I was making the zones but only reached the bottom of most of the sprint heart ranges.

5 minute warm up at 100-120 BPM
Then repeat 5 times:
3 minutes at 135-155
1 minute at 155-170
5 minutes cool down at 100-120 BPM

I see a challenge ahead. I am so gonna start pushing up those sprint numbers.
__________________
"Time and patience are the 2 elements that most people don't include in their plans."
-Alan Aragon

"The scale simply tells you how much the earth loves you on a particular day."
-Ogedei (Keith)

my log: The Big Stretch
graphs & data: daily weight & occasional BP
. (more graphs run down right hand side,
. latest weight at bottom of page)

CloveApple is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2008, 05:03 AM   #106 (permalink)
nobody's ass-kisser
 
Espi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: NLs
Posts: 5,826
Default

NO fake foods are needed and certainly no crappy cereal foods to up the fiber.

Berries are awesome, and frozen (rasp)berries not even all that expensive. All veggies are good esp cruciferous veggies and then of course... beans. Other fibrous fruits are bananas.
Even in my very low carb days I could still get in 20-25g of fiber without resorting to 'fake' foods or cereals.. just saying. If you must use supplements, I can recommend inulin.. not so much psyllium which is of inferior quality
__________________
Ergo-log: news & KB on legal & illegal ergogenic aids
Poliquin: "There's no overtraining, only undereating" --> to undereat, don't overtrain!"
Burgener: "There's no overtraining, only underrecovery" --> sleep, rest & recover
journal: Go with the flow
Espi is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2008, 10:48 AM   #107 (permalink)
nobody's ass-kisser
 
Espi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: NLs
Posts: 5,826
Default

Forgot to comment on the ice cream. There may be 2 reasons why it's easier to control eating it now. Everyone always talks about willpower.. willpower dwindles in comparison with smart planning and diet adjustments

1 A good friend of mine who's leaner than lean but used to be fatter, who has 5 kids who love junkfood and whom she won't deny the ice cream, candy etc. etc. has an awesome expression: it (the food) will always be there. You can trust on it that the ice cream you love, will always be available (except when as..s decide to discontinue a flavour or no longer carry HD!!!)

2 better insulin sensitivity
Years ago, when I was still way heavier, I had a much harder time resisting foods.Still have a hard time with some foods that are my trigger foods, like soft candy. But generally it's gotten much better. The only way you can make that switch go ON for you is to lower carb intake. Once I tried a very low carb diet, I was absolutely flabbergasted at my ability to walk in the aisles full with candy , chips & cookies and.. not be tempted. It's very much a physical thing to crave carbs. Once you cut them out of the diet, the physical cravings will be gone.. unless you're working out hard which means you need them. Mentally is a different story as generally a lot of people want something more badly when they tell themselves they can't get it.. for this: see 1. It will always be there.. just not now
__________________
Ergo-log: news & KB on legal & illegal ergogenic aids
Poliquin: "There's no overtraining, only undereating" --> to undereat, don't overtrain!"
Burgener: "There's no overtraining, only underrecovery" --> sleep, rest & recover
journal: Go with the flow
Espi is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2008, 11:28 AM   #108 (permalink)
that's me on the left
 
CloveApple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 893
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Espi View Post
NO fake foods are needed and certainly no crappy cereal foods to up the fiber.

Berries are awesome, and frozen (rasp)berries not even all that expensive. All veggies are good esp cruciferous veggies and then of course... beans. Other fibrous fruits are bananas.
Even in my very low carb days I could still get in 20-25g of fiber without resorting to 'fake' foods or cereals.. just saying. If you must use supplements, I can recommend inulin.. not so much psyllium which is of inferior quality
Thanks for the input. I didn't realize bananas were as high in fiber as they apparently are.

I'm already eating my limit of fruit most days and I definitely eat berries and bananas since I love both. I also eat about 2-3 cups of raw veggies a day (though not many of the cruciferous ones as I don't like them much).

As for beans, I'd like to get better about working them in though that takes more thought as they tend to bump other things that I like more and I'm honestly not sure how much I'm willing to do that. It's a continuing balance act between what works for my body (and for cutting) and what I really really want.

Actually I'm surprised how emotional I get about those choices. Alan recently made an entirely reasonable suggestion about starch choices and I was near tears for quite some time before I could get enough distance to actually think about options and how to make things work.

One things is for sure, I could never never never do the really truly truly low carb plans.

I'm curious what your reasons are for preferring inulin to psyllium.
__________________
"Time and patience are the 2 elements that most people don't include in their plans."
-Alan Aragon

"The scale simply tells you how much the earth loves you on a particular day."
-Ogedei (Keith)

my log: The Big Stretch
graphs & data: daily weight & occasional BP
. (more graphs run down right hand side,
. latest weight at bottom of page)

CloveApple is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2008, 12:51 PM   #109 (permalink)
nobody's ass-kisser
 
Espi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: NLs
Posts: 5,826
Default

Try to see it as a game to hit your targets and to take the emotions out of the equation. Don't give up on yourself easily either by thinking you can't do it as I know you can. Trust yourself!
Also, food can be just fuel at times. It's not worth it getting emotional about. Yet, OTOH food can be fun & pleasure too, so try to get some fun in the game as well by working in treats. Either daily or weekly ones. I like both so I go for small treats every day and also give myself huge treats every week. Hey, if wt loss will be slow as a result, so be it.

My SO is the real expert here and he just said the other day that psyllium is really 'no good' in comparison with inulin. Main reason is that inulin has beneficial effects on your stool like preventing you from having too loose stools. Psyllium husks really doesn't do much for you health-wise and apparently doesn't work wonders either when it comes to higher satiety levels.
__________________
Ergo-log: news & KB on legal & illegal ergogenic aids
Poliquin: "There's no overtraining, only undereating" --> to undereat, don't overtrain!"
Burgener: "There's no overtraining, only underrecovery" --> sleep, rest & recover
journal: Go with the flow
Espi is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2008, 02:17 PM   #110 (permalink)
Fitness Junkie
 
brwnsgr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Arizona
Posts: 145
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CloveApple View Post
I haven't written about this here, but the other thing that's going well is good news about my dad. There was a possibility he had lung cancer and we were all holding our breaths, but we got the news Tuesday that the growth is benign.

I'm still concerned about him as it looks like he has inherited a kidney disease that is getting serious (waiting on his appointment with an expert for details) and he's got other health issues, but nothing else is as scary as the spot on his lung was.
This is wonderful news about your dad. Another testament to how precious life truly is. I will keep your dad in my thoughts, as he gains the strength to get through his other illnesses.

Quote:
I just have to remember that really I'm pretty lucky:
I have a job that means something.
I have a reputation for being good at it (and once I get my feet under me, I'll be good at it again.)
I'm still losing fat and people ask me how I'm doing it.
I have access to a gym I really like and feel comfortable with.
I work with an awesome trainer.
I feel like I'm in a much more stable place with food and eating.

So really I'm in a pretty good place.
This is something we need to do more often, as we tend to only focus on the things that are not going right in our lives.
__________________
My Fitness Journey
brwnsgr is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2008, 02:34 PM   #111 (permalink)
that's me on the left
 
CloveApple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 893
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Espi View Post
Try to see it as a game to hit your targets and to take the emotions out of the equation. Don't give up on yourself easily either by thinking you can't do it as I know you can. Trust yourself!
Also, food can be just fuel at times. It's not worth it getting emotional about. Yet, OTOH food can be fun & pleasure too, so try to get some fun in the game as well by working in treats. Either daily or weekly ones. I like both so I go for small treats every day and also give myself huge treats every week. Hey, if wt loss will be slow as a result, so be it.
If I gave you the impression that I think I can't succeed, then my bad. I know I can succeed and I know I am succeeding. I looked at my post and realized I left out a crucial two words. I should have said "Actually I'm surprised how emotional I can sometimes get about those choices." Sometimes I roll with it just fine and sometimes I get briefly overwhelmed.

It's a learning curve, which is ok. When I look at where I was just a year ago I'm astonished at how far I've come.
__________________
"Time and patience are the 2 elements that most people don't include in their plans."
-Alan Aragon

"The scale simply tells you how much the earth loves you on a particular day."
-Ogedei (Keith)

my log: The Big Stretch
graphs & data: daily weight & occasional BP
. (more graphs run down right hand side,
. latest weight at bottom of page)

CloveApple is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2008, 02:48 PM   #112 (permalink)
nobody's ass-kisser
 
Espi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: NLs
Posts: 5,826
Default

Well, I just knew you aren't emotional about it all the time, but even getting emotional sometimes can drag you down.

Just the example you gave of standing in the supermarket and trying to find the goodie that would fit your 'free meal' best of all , rather than just picking something up at random, no matter if it was too many calories or you weren't really liking the choice, shows you are on the right road.
As for next time.. try to think of alternatives already at home. Saves the chagrin of not being quite satisfied and not being able to think of an alternative quickly enough.
__________________
Ergo-log: news & KB on legal & illegal ergogenic aids
Poliquin: "There's no overtraining, only undereating" --> to undereat, don't overtrain!"
Burgener: "There's no overtraining, only underrecovery" --> sleep, rest & recover
journal: Go with the flow
Espi is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2008, 10:59 PM   #113 (permalink)
that's me on the left
 
CloveApple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 893
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by brwnsgr View Post
This is something we need to do more often, as we tend to only focus on the things that are not going right in our lives.
Yup, it's so easy to just see what needs fixing. Sometimes that's good because it leads to goals, but there's so much more in the picture.

PS. Thanks for thinking of dad.
__________________
"Time and patience are the 2 elements that most people don't include in their plans."
-Alan Aragon

"The scale simply tells you how much the earth loves you on a particular day."
-Ogedei (Keith)

my log: The Big Stretch
graphs & data: daily weight & occasional BP
. (more graphs run down right hand side,
. latest weight at bottom of page)

CloveApple is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2008, 03:05 AM   #114 (permalink)
that's me on the left
 
CloveApple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 893
Default

Thanks for the recent posts Espi. I've been turning them over in my head.

11/17/08, Monday

My regular session with Andrew. Just one set on these. I was aiming for 15 reps, so it's 15 unless it says otherwise. For machine exercises the # is the # off the plate (which is not always the weight) and +5 means adding a 5 pound weight.

low to high w/ball (cable cross ): 20
incline press (cable cross): 15
low ball w/ball (cable cross): 40
triceps pull down (cable crossover): 5 +5 (changed the handle I was using on this)
biceps curl (cable crossover): 2 +2.25
hip sled: 2 legs 45# bar +80#, 14 reps
1 leg 45# bar +35# plate, 11 reps right, 12 reps left
hip abductor: 8 (still lower weight on this as my left hip just doesn't want to do the weight I used to do)
hip adductor: 9
shoulder press: 62.5, 11 reps
seated chest press: 65 +10, 14 reps
drawing the sword: 2 6# DB
triceps DB ball swim: 2 6# DB
__________________
"Time and patience are the 2 elements that most people don't include in their plans."
-Alan Aragon

"The scale simply tells you how much the earth loves you on a particular day."
-Ogedei (Keith)

my log: The Big Stretch
graphs & data: daily weight & occasional BP
. (more graphs run down right hand side,
. latest weight at bottom of page)

CloveApple is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-18-2008, 11:15 PM   #115 (permalink)
Fitness Junkie
 
brwnsgr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Arizona
Posts: 145
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CloveApple View Post
drawing the sword: 2 6# DB
triceps DB ball swim: 2 6# DB
Ooo...what are these?
__________________
My Fitness Journey
brwnsgr is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2008, 12:06 PM   #116 (permalink)
that's me on the left
 
CloveApple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 893
Default More Adventures in Cooking

11-18-08, Tuesday

30 minutes core/hip rehab stuff
30 minutes steady state elliptical

The bikes in the gym bike rack are thinning out. I get my choice of parking places now.
__________________
"Time and patience are the 2 elements that most people don't include in their plans."
-Alan Aragon

"The scale simply tells you how much the earth loves you on a particular day."
-Ogedei (Keith)

my log: The Big Stretch
graphs & data: daily weight & occasional BP
. (more graphs run down right hand side,
. latest weight at bottom of page)

CloveApple is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-19-2008, 01:36 PM   #117 (permalink)
that's me on the left
 
CloveApple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 893
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by CloveApple View Post
drawing the sword: 2 6# DB
triceps DB ball swim: 2 6# DB
Quote:
Originally Posted by brwnsgr View Post
Ooo...what are these?
Drawing the Sword is replacing the seated Shoulder Press machine I was doing. This Men's Fitness mini article has a picture:http://http://www.mensfitness. com/fitness/107

Triceps Ball Swim
I don't know if this one has another name. I'll see if I can find/come up with a decent description or picture.
__________________
"Time and patience are the 2 elements that most people don't include in their plans."
-Alan Aragon

"The scale simply tells you how much the earth loves you on a particular day."
-Ogedei (Keith)

my log: The Big Stretch
graphs & data: daily weight & occasional BP
. (more graphs run down right hand side,
. latest weight at bottom of page)

CloveApple is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2008, 09:11 PM   #118 (permalink)
that's me on the left
 
CloveApple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 893
Default More Adventures in Cooking & The Land of Food

Monday I tried creating some high-fiber high-protein muffins. I appear to have produced an edible form of brick. I'll be tweaking them to make them moister and more flavorful, but I've had them for lunch twice now and really they weren't that bad considering how much protein and fiber I crammed into them and how many new-to-me ingredients I tried all at once (instead of altering things one or two variables at a time).

I'm aiming to gradually build up a repertoire of veggie recipes that fit my macros. I'm not vegetarian now, but I'm more comfortable mentally and emotionally living a little lower on the carnivore scale.

It's going to take some thinking to get stuff that is high enough in protein without being way higher in carbs and that isn't always soy or seiten/gluten. I'm sure it's doable; I'm just not used to thinking that way.

Meanwhile I'm at least 10 days into a keeping-snacks-around experiment. It's stuff in single serving packages that I can work in on training days if I want and I've got most of them in a big bag in the coat closet. So far it's working, which is a really strange feeling.

I even got brave enough to buy a bag of 1 oz mini slabs of cheese today. Up to now I've just been getting one or two ounce samples of cheese from the deli sample basket as that way I could splurge without blowing it. (Cheese is a long standing binge food of mine and I've eaten an entire brick more than once.) I considered just getting a brick but that just felt riskier and I'm not going there right now. (Though I'd love to see the day when I could just have a brick of cheese in the fridge and not even think about it.)
__________________
"Time and patience are the 2 elements that most people don't include in their plans."
-Alan Aragon

"The scale simply tells you how much the earth loves you on a particular day."
-Ogedei (Keith)

my log: The Big Stretch
graphs & data: daily weight & occasional BP
. (more graphs run down right hand side,
. latest weight at bottom of page)

CloveApple is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-20-2008, 09:17 PM   #119 (permalink)
that's me on the left
 
CloveApple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 893
Default

darn it! How did my #116 post get the title "More Adventures in Cooking"! I know I was tired when I posted that, but really?!

Just imagine it has a more accurate name like "workout" or something.
__________________
"Time and patience are the 2 elements that most people don't include in their plans."
-Alan Aragon

"The scale simply tells you how much the earth loves you on a particular day."
-Ogedei (Keith)

my log: The Big Stretch
graphs & data: daily weight & occasional BP
. (more graphs run down right hand side,
. latest weight at bottom of page)

CloveApple is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 11-21-2008, 07:34 PM   #120 (permalink)
that's me on the left
 
CloveApple's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 893
Default

11/20/08, Thursday

About an hour of city biking today. I took a new route and used some of the highway overpasses for the first time. Most were spiraling ramps you could ride up, but one was stairs (!) with the oddest metal channel to steer your bike down as you walked the steps. It was what you'd create if for some reason you needed a chute to roll eggs down the side of the steps. For a bike it was a little awkward but it worked.

The temperatures have dropped another few notches and it's really feeling like winter. The cold has started making my eyes tear up, so goggles are on the shopping list now. I keep discovering new things I need if I'm going to keep riding. Today the wind helpfully found every weak spot in my clothing so as to help me prepare better next time.

I had another physical therapy appointment for the hip today. So more exercises to do. One nice thing was that she really approved of all the core and hip things Andrew was having me do and commented that several of them were things she would have suggested.

Then came gym time and weights. They are all 3 sets of 10 reps each unless it says otherwise. (The numbers are from the numbers on the plates, so not always actual pounds; +5 is adding a 5 pound weight.)

cable cross low to high (w/ ball) 20 (alternating between sets on left and right side)
cable cross low pull (w/ball): 40
drawing the sword (w/bosu) 6# DB (alternating between sets on left and right side)
triceps pull down on cable crossover (now using a bar-like handle): 5+5
biceps curl on cable crossover: each arm seperately 2+2.25
hip abductor: 8
hip adductor: 9
hip sled: 2 legs 10 reps w/bar+80, then each leg seperately 2 sets of 10 w/bar+35
seated chest press: 65+10
incline press on cable cross: 40
__________________
"Time and patience are the 2 elements that most people don't include in their plans."
-Alan Aragon

"The scale simply tells you how much the earth loves you on a particular day."
-Ogedei (Keith)

my log: The Big Stretch
graphs & data: daily weight & occasional BP
. (more graphs run down right hand side,
. latest weight at bottom of page)

CloveApple is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiFurl this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 12:20 PM.

Features ...
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Ad Management by RedTyger