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Old 07-29-2008, 12:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Out of the Library and into the Gym

A little history first: over the last few years I have overhauled my lifestyle, going from a workaholic 100lb overweight sedentary person to a very active 55lb overweight person with a serious health and fitness hobby. Most of the weightloss happened in the first six months, from a combination of calorie counting/whole food diet and moderate exercise—lots of walking, two easy strength sessions a week (with a ball and hand weights), spinning once per week.

Eventually that became boring and I wanted faster results so I got some advice from a trainer: more cardio, at greater intensity was the answer, she said. So I upped spinning to 4x per week minimum, did some cycling endurance classes (5 hours on the bike at a time), started running, stopped strength training and stopped losing weight. This went on for a long time.

Eventually I just couldn’t take the intensity, got injured, stopped counting calories and worked out less, doing yoga once or twice a week and spinning usually just once, maintaining my weight for several months like this.

When I finally got motivated to return to the workouts and the calorie counting, I chose a program with prescribed meals 1600-1800 calories daily of whole foods, started my cardio focused program up again and steadily gained L. 10lbs later, I found NROL4W. In the first 6 weeks I’ve been feeling fantastic, sleeping great (an issue for me in the past) and getting visibly firmer and tighter while maintaining my weight.

I’m considering OPT as a framework for my food intake, but I’m not sure how it needs to be adapted for the workouts I’m proposing. I'll post my workout plan and some sample menus and see what you think.
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:22 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I finally have a workout plan that feels great and I don’t really want to mess with it. My week goes like this:

Monday am: NROL4W

Tuesday pm: 45 minutes walking (to class and back)
45 minutes pilates (very moderate stretching)

Wed am: NROL4W

Thursday pm: 90 minutes vinyasa yoga
(about 2/3 cardio/stretching sun salutations,
1/3 balance postures and inversions (backbends, headstands, etc.)

Friday am: NROL4W

Saturday am: 90 minute spin
(about ¾ of the time is steady state cycling, with more intense drills sprinkled in for about ¼ of the time—I would describe this as interval training, but not HIIT.)

Sunday am: 90 minutes vinyasa yoga
(about 2/3 cardio/stretching sun salutations,
1/3 balance postures and inversions (backbends, headstands, etc.)


I’m also part of a backpacking/hiking group, so sometimes I do that, but I consider it more of a social outlet than anything else. It beats happy hour.
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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According to Leigh’s quiz, I get the following numbers:


1398 BMR
2238 daily calories burned
1454 daily calories (as proposed at 65%)
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Old 07-29-2008, 12:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Today's Food:

Breakfastgramscalories
GOLEAN waffles original84170
Organic Peanut Butter - with Salt (Creamy) - Peanut Butters32190
Bananas10190
Iced Caffe Americano - Grande-sized45317
Milk, Nonfat, Fluid - With Added Vitamin A (Fat Free Or Skim)12342
Lunch
Rice, Brown, Medium-grain, Cooked100112
Organic Roasted Turkey - Organic Deli Meats8475
Broccoli - Raw8830
Organic Cherry Tomatoes - Melissa's Organics6011
Onions, Spring Or Scallions - (Includes Tops And Bulb), Raw155
Coriander Leaves - Raw21
Feta Cheese2874
Olives, Ripe1012
Lime Juice (1/2 lime yields)195
Avocados67107
Dinner
Rice, Brown, Medium-grain, Cooked100112
Boneless, Skinless Chicken Breast, roasted112120
Spinach - Raw5312
Bell Pepper (Red) 1/2 med, raw6015
Feta Cheese2874
Olives, Ripe1012
Snacks
Strawberries15249
Low Fat (2%) Cottage Cheese110100
Total Calories Consumed 1,432
Macros
Fat - 29.8% (50 grams)
Protein - 27.2% (102 grams)
Carbohydrates - 43.0% (161 grams)
Alcohol - 0.0%
Other - 0.0%
Daily Sodium Intake - 2,416 mg
Daily Sugar Intake - 41 grams
Daily Cholesterol Intake - 172 mg
Daily Saturated Fat Intake - 15 grams
Daily Fiber Intake - 28 grams
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Old 07-30-2008, 06:56 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Welcome to the board. Good luck with your goals. Lots of people have had some good success following Leigh's advice. I'm sure you'll get there.
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Old 07-30-2008, 08:23 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Morning!

I'm looking at your program and all I can think is "where is your rest day?" You should have at least one day in your program where you do nothing more than simple stretching/foam rolling for a 20-30 minutes. Your body needs adequate rest to recover or you'll end up injuring yourself again.

One thing you might do with dropping your calories is change NROL4W so you're doing 1 less set per exercise. There's a number of us here who love Alwyn's programs but when combined with the lower calories of dieting, we get stressed to the point where we can't recover properly without eating more. Alwyn's programs are hard and very metabolically taxing.
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Old 07-30-2008, 08:56 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Thanks for the support! I should say that my schedule assumes one of those workouts won't happen for one reason or another--my default rest day--but I'm thinking about dropping the pilates class in any case.

As for the diet, I'll follow Leigh's advice and not follow OPT with the NR workouts...just do some testing to see how low I can go while doing them, then eat at maintenance on my weeks off.
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Default 6/30 food

Breakfastgramscalories
Blueberries - Frozen, Unsweetened12061
Natural Factors 100%whey2080
Fat Free Plain Yogurt220105
Flax Seeds526
Pure Maple Syrup2067
Bananas10190
Iced Caffe Americano - Grande-sized45317
Milk, Nonfat, Fluid - With Added Vitamin A (Fat Free Or Skim)12342
Lunch
Rice, Brown, Medium-grain, Cooked100112
Beans, Snap, Green - Cooked, Boiled, Drained, Without Salt12544
Bell Pepper (Red) 1/2 med, raw6015
Tuna, Light, Canned In Water, Drained Solids165191
Newman's Own Caesar Dressing1677
Red Onion167
Dinner
Whole Wheat Tortillas47140
Boneless, Skinless Chicken Breast112120
Avocados67107
Mixed Baby Greens - Organic Specialty Salads5710
Holy Land Homos Tahini-1 oz2880
Snacks
Strawberries15249
Low Fat (2%) Cottage Cheese110100
Total Calories Consumed 1,540
Macros
Fat - 20.8% (36 grams)
Protein - 33.0% (127 grams)
Carbohydrates - 45.2% (174 grams)
Alcohol - 0.0%
Other - 1.1%
Daily Sodium Intake - 1,960 mg
Daily Sugar Intake - 77 grams
Daily Cholesterol Intake - 127 mg
Daily Saturated Fat Intake - 6 grams
Daily Fiber Intake - 29 grams
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Old 07-30-2008, 09:52 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Default 6/30 Workout

Phase 2/Workout BSet 1Set 2Rest
Awide grip deadlift from box85(BAR+20ES)/1085(BAR+20ES)/1075
B1bulgarian split-squats10lb Medicine Ball/1015lb Medicine Ball*/1075
B2underhand grip lat pull-down60/1060/1075
C1reverse lunge from box w/forward reach10/1010/1075
C2dumbell prone cuban snatch10/105/1075

NOTES
*15lbs is max for medicine balls at my gym, next time I'll use a plate.
**ran out of time, will save D, E and intervals for Thursday am
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Welcome to the forums!
I, too, was wondering about your rest day, but I saw that you answered that question already.


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I think you've got a great plan in place. I think you're making excellent food choices, too. It depends on the pilates or yoga class, of course, but when I was doing yoga sometimes that class was better than just a do-nothing rest day. I always felt better physically and mentally after those classes. So, your body does need rest, but restful movement is most acceptable.
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Hey thanks Lisa!

Sometimes I think I'm low on protein/high on fat, but at least its good fat, right?

Thanks to Kate, too. I'm really liking the community feeling on this board.
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Default 6/31 Workout

Phase 2/Workout B continued (Set 1 | Set 2 | Rest)


D1 incline crunch (25lb plate/10 | 25lb plate/20 | 75)
D2 incline reverse crunch (bw/10 | bw/10 | 75)
D3 lateral flexion-version 3 (bw/10 | bw/10 | 75)

E prone cobra (shalabasana/60sec | urdva mukha svanasana/60sec | 75)

Treadmill Intervals

3 min 3mph
2 min 4mph
1 min 6mph
2 min 2mph
1 min 6mph
2 min 2mph
1 min 6mph
2 min 2mph



NOTES:
-prone cobra seemed pointless, so subbed a couple more advanced yoga moves, shalabasana is probably the better substitution (just like prone cobra, but with legs/feet lifted, regardless 60sec didn’t feel very long, so consider adding time.


-tried the intervals using treadmill presets, 2mph felt REALLY SLOW, but 6mph is a good clip for me, even for just a minute at a time, so maybe this is ok for now.
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Default 6/31 food

(grams / calories)

Strawberries 152 / 49
Almonds 14 / 81
Pure Maple Syrup 10 / 33
Steel Cut Oats 88 / 340
Iced Caffe Americano - Grande-sized 453 / 17
Milk, Nonfat, Fluid - With Added Vitamin 123 / 42

Lunch
Broccoli - Raw 88 / 30
Rice, Brown, Medium-grain, Cooked 100 / 112
Scallions 15 / 5
Coriander Leaves - Raw 2 / 1
Feta Cheese 28 / 74
Olives, Ripe 10 / 12
Organic Roasted Turkey - Organic Deli Meats 112 / 100

Dinner
Shrimp Primavera - Lunch Entrees 540 / 483
Wine, Table, White 103 / 85


Total Calories Consumed 1,461


NOTES:
Usually this menu represents foods that are already prepared/measured/packed for the day, tonight’s dinner is a plan, wishing and hoping that Olive Garden (Dad’s choice) is willing to serve me a lunch portion, subbing whole wheat linguini for the regular pasta, and that I will not succumb to the bread basket. I might share a dessert with the table, though…for the sake of family harmony.
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Wow first we get Deadlift Girl, and now we have Librarygirl - superheroines are coming up all over.

Looks like you've got yourself dialed in - just thought I'd say (in response to what your trainer told you) that lifting 3x a week and cardio (spinning class) 2x a week has done me some good. Keep up the good work.
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Hi, welcome to the board. It looks like you've got a great plan here.

I felt the same way about the cobras. I did them most of the time anyway.

Good luck with the bread basket! Are you stearing clear of the salad that they have too? That's my downfall at the Olive Garden. Their dressing is so good!
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No yoga last night, no NR workout this am (parents in town).
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Grams / Calories
Breakfast
Granola (homemade) 2/3 cup / 305
Fat Free Plain 220 / 105
Pure Maple Syrup 10 / 33
Iced Caffe Americano - Grande-sized 453 / 17
Milk, Nonfat, Fluid - (Fat Free Or Skim) 123 / 42

Lunch
Beans, Snap, Green 250 / 88
Egg, Whole - Cooked, Hard-boiled 50 / 78
Premium Chunk Chicken Breast 112 / 120
Newman's Own Caesar Dressing 16 / 77
Olives, Ripe 10 / 12
Red Onion 16 / 7

Dinner
Tilapia Fillets 168 / 140
Cabbage – Raw 89 / 22
Carrots 61 / 25
Bell Pepper (Red) 60 / 15
Coriander Leaves – Raw 2 / 1
Rice, Brown, Medium-grain, Cooked 100 / 112
Red Onion – Vegetables 16 / 7
Lime Juice 38 / 10
Olive Oil 14 / 124

Snacks
Bananas 101 / 90
Pineapple 155 / 78

Total Calories Consumed 1,504


Fat - 21.2% (36 grams)
Protein - 26.4% (100 grams)
Carbohydrates - 52.5% (198 grams)
Alcohol - 0.0%
Other - 0.0%

Daily Sodium Intake - 1,096 mg
Daily Sugar Intake - 73 grams
Daily Cholesterol Intake - 357 mg
Daily Saturated Fat Intake - 6 grams
Daily Fiber Intake - 23 grams
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(no time to log, but at least I'm getting the workouts in)

This was food Saturday:
Breakfast
Kashi Waffles w/pb and strawberries
americano w/skim

Snack (between spinning and lifting)
1/2 of the ususal fat free plain yogurt/blueberries/banana/whey protein powder/ground flax seed smoothie

Lunch
Turkey on wheat with lettuce, tomatoe, provolone and pesto mayonaise

Dinner
Vegetarian Punjabi Thali (out, major guess on grams/calories)

total calories: 1,982

Fat - 34.3% (77 grams)
Protein - 17.7% (89 grams)
Carbohydrates - 48.1% (244 grams)
Alcohol - 0.0%
Other - 0.0%

Daily Sodium Intake - 2,583 mg
Daily Sugar Intake - 56 grams
Daily Cholesterol Intake - 44 mg
Daily Saturated Fat Intake - 13 grams
Daily Fiber Intake - 30 grams
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90 minutes spinning
NROL4W 2a/w2

Front Squat Push/Press 45/10, 45/10
Step-up 20e/10, 20e/20
Dumbell One-point Row 20e/10, 20e/10
Static Lunge, rear foot elevated 20e/10, 20e/10
Push-up 'T'w/5lbs/10, regular/10
Plank 60sec x 2
Cable Horizontal Woodchop 40*/10, 40*/10

*may or may not be 40lbs, plates indicate #4 on the freemotion machine.
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This was food Sunday:
Breakfast
Kashi Waffles w/pb and strawberries
americano w/skim

Snack
Nectarine
12 almonds

Lunch
Greek salad w/turkey

Dinner
Qunioa w/mushrooms, asparagus, chicken breast
1 glass of white wine.

total calories: 1,559

Fat - 35.6% (65 grams)
Protein - 22.6% (92 grams)
Carbohydrates - 34.4% (141 grams)
Alcohol - 7.5% (18 grams)
Other - 0.0%

Daily Sodium Intake - 1,912 mg
Daily Sugar Intake - 45 grams
Daily Cholesterol Intake - 171 mg
Daily Saturated Fat Intake - 15 grams
Daily Fiber Intake - 24 grams
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90 minute vinyasa
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NROL4W 2b/w2

wide grip deadlift from box 95(BAR+25ES)/10 | 95(BAR+25ES)/10
bulgairan split-squats 25lb plate/10 | 25lb plate/10
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underhand grip lat pull-down 60/10 | 60/10 | 75
reverse lunge from box w/forward reach 5/10 | 5/10 | 75
dumbbell prone Cuban snatch 5/10 | 5/10 | 75
incline crunch 25lb plate/10 | 25lb plate/20 | 75
incline reverse crunch bw/10 | bw/10 | 75
lateral flexion-version 3 bw/10 | bw/10 | 75
(prone cobra) shalabasana/60sec | shalabasana/60sec | 75

Treadmill Intervals
1 min 2mph
2 min 4mph
1 min 6mph
2 min 2mph
1 min 7.5mph
2 min 2mph
1 min 7.5mph
2 min 2mph
1 min 7.5mph
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Breakfast
Kashi Waffles (again) w/pb and bananas
americano w/skim

Lunch
Quinoa w/mushrooms, asparagus, chicken breast

Dinner
4 pieces spicy tuna roll
2 pieces salmon nigiri
2 pieces tuna nigiri (all were brown rice)

total calories: 1,247

Fat - 28.5% (41 grams)
Protein - 22.8% (74 grams)
Carbohydrates - 48.7% (157 grams)
Alcohol - 0.0%
Other - 0.0%

Daily Sodium Intake - 1,779 mg
Daily Sugar Intake - 40 grams
Daily Cholesterol Intake - 112 mg
Daily Saturated Fat Intake - 6 grams
Daily Fiber Intake - 17 grams
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NONE! yay I took a day off.
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NROL4W 2a/w3

Front Squat Push/Press 45/10, 50/10
Step-up 25e/10, 25e/10
Dumbell One-point Row 20e/10, 20e/10
Static Lunge, rear foot elevated 25e/10, 18e/10
Push-up 'T'w/5lbs/10, 'T'w/5lbs/10
Plank 60sec x 2 (second time I did one leg 30/other leg 30)
Cable Horizontal Woodchop 45*/10, 45*/10

*may or may not be 45lbs (freemotion machine).
**dude was doing triceps kickbacks w/20lb dumbbell almost the entire time I was at the gym. Stole em for the one-point row, but otherwise sort of managed with 18s and 25s.
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Breakfast
blueberry/banana smoothie
w/plain non-fat yogurt, whey protein powder, ground flax seeds
americano w/skim

Lunch
Tuna salad w/yellow bell pepper, cherry tomatoes, cilantro, black olives, fresh corn, avocado w/olive oil & lemon juice

Snack
3/4 oz almonds
1cup strawberries

Dinner
roasted pork tenderloin
whole wheat couscous w/garlic, onion, cilantro
pineapple

total calories: 1,592

Fat - 28.5% (52 grams)
Protein - 26.9% (109 grams)
Carbohydrates - 44.7% (182 grams)
Alcohol - 0.0%
Other - 0.0%

Daily Sodium Intake - 866 mg
Daily Sugar Intake - 72 grams
Daily Cholesterol Intake - 135 mg
Daily Saturated Fat Intake - 7 grams
Daily Fiber Intake - 30 grams
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So, I thought I would post this in here in case anybody reads the log and would be willing to chime in...I know I don't want to go low carb. I am generally quite happy with my food choices and diet BUT protein is low. How can I increase protein without increasing calories or giving up veggies and good fats? impossible, right? but maybe there are smaller tweaks I can make?
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Old 08-06-2008, 11:40 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Well, you can't increase protein calorie-free! So, something has to give. Increase your protein portions a bit and decrease your carb portions a bit to sway things in the direction of more protein, maybe?
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Old 08-06-2008, 11:49 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Of course you're right Jane, I've just got to get used to bigger portions of protein. I was vegetarian for 15 years, it takes work for me to eat as much meat, etc. as I do even now. Hmm, maybe if I decide on the protein portions first, log them, then see how much of the carbs I can afford to have?

ok yes. I have decided I will set 125 grams (1 gram per pound of goal bodyweight) as my benchmark and see how it goes for a while. Once I get used to that maybe I can add some more...
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