Celeste.........Not only do we share the emotional eating due to PMS.......we share knee pain!!!
My knees always give me problems. Leigh had me do a ton of IT Band stretches and that really, really helped. Julie gave me some ideas too. So just don't skimp on those stretches if you want it to get better.
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"Become better than you used to be, not better than someone else." ~Inside my program sent by Leigh Peele
Sorry about the knee pain!
Lots of red numbers up there, though, so that's a thing to be happy about for sure!
mel
Thanks Mel--that's true about the red #s. I had a great workout last week, so I should focus on the good stuff, right?
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Sorry you're sore... I had a crappy workout this morning, for whatever that's worth... some days you just have to be glad you did anything and got your butt off the couch, ya know?
Bytsi, I can't say I'm glad you had a crappy workout but I do know what you mean about getting your butt off the couch. I had a fine time walking around the parking lot while my little guys rode their bikes and got to get updates and funny stories every time my older kids and my brother came down off the mountain. I don't think I walked too far (maybe a mile if you stretch it), but we'll just count it as extra NEAT!
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Sorry you're having a grumpy day, although we are all allowed to have them. I replied to your post in my log, but thought I'd put the tree stuff here for you as well (since halloween decorations and balloons are really not required).
Anne, thanks so much for the tree advice! I am an absolute novice at gardening, so any help given is appreciated. Several years ago I bought a ton of flowers, bulbs, bushes, etc from Gurney's and planted, watered, and fertilized them faithfully, only to move at the end of the next year, just when they were starting to actually be noticeable. We now have tenants renting that house who don't even mow the yard, much less weed or take care of any of the landscaping. They even managed to kill a beautiful azalea bush that dh had gotten me for mother's day a couple years before... oh well, but anyway I haven't tried anything at the new house until now because of discouragement, lack of knowledge, and babies
In response to your grumpy comment, thanks for understanding. I did manage to get over it pretty quickly and have a great day anyway, but it was nice to be able to vent
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I'm sorry to hear about your knees, but am glad that you're taking care of them.
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Celeste, hope the stretches help! I know what a pain it is to want to exercise and be limited by body frailties.
Thanks both of you, I have decided to officially take my rest week for after Stage 2 (I think I'm supposed to take one after each stage?) and work on the stretches and glute activation exercises I found over in the injury forum. I only have the 4A and 4B workouts to go in stage 2. Right now the knees hurt doing practically anything so I know I need to take care of them.
So update on eating--it's getting back under control. Saturday was okay until dinner (Whole wheat toast and egg for breakfast, yogurt and nectarine for snack, and turkey sandwich and carrots for lunch. Then I had a bag of chips for a late snack (jalapeno kettle cooked chips, the ONLY chips I LOVE, I just couldn't resist!!!) and then dh ordered PIZZA for dinner. I had something healthy all planned, but again, resistance was futile...
Yesterday I finally got back on track, even resisted donuts at church! Salad and chicken breast for lunch and dinner and a protein shake with strawberries for a snack. I intentionally went pretty lo-cal (1246) but just for one day. Sometimes I have to get extreme to get back in the "mode". DD and I went for a 60min walk after dinner (2 miles uphill and then back down), then I did my stretches and glute activation exercises.
Here's what I've been doing:
Celeste.........Not only do we share the emotional eating due to PMS.......we share knee pain!!!
My knees always give me problems. Leigh had me do a ton of IT Band stretches and that really, really helped. Julie gave me some ideas too. So just don't skimp on those stretches if you want it to get better.
LOL!!! Here's the funny thing--I looked at the calendar wrong and I definitely can't blame the eating on PMS, I was about a week early!
Anyway, it was in your log that I realized that my knee pain was probably due to glute problems, so that's when I started searching the injury forum. Do you have any links to IT Band stretches? I googled it and came up with this site: iliotibialstretches
But if anything is missing or if you have a better link, I'd love to see it.
How long did it take your knees to recover? Mine are bad enough that getting from standing to sitting (or vice versa) is very uncomfortable, as is picking something up off the floor, etc. I REALLY REALLY don't want to take a break from lifting right now, it's so much fun and I love that I'm seeing results, so it's extremely hard to stay home. But realistically I don't want to damage something so I'm trying to be good.
"Shell, keep working on those pushups, they seem to improve pretty steadily for most people. BTW, I tried the FSPP with a broom (a la Pauline!) and felt more comfortable with it when I started. It actually seemed ok, although I think I still need to work on being more explosive. Mine is one steady movement, which isn't the point..."
I don't know how to insert quotes the way you ladies do, do I just cut and pasted.....
I'm tried the FSPP with a broom..... excellent advise...I feel more comfortabl and confident to try it in the gym for real on Wednesday!
LOL!!! Here's the funny thing--I looked at the calendar wrong and I definitely can't blame the eating on PMS, I was about a week early!
Anyway, it was in your log that I realized that my knee pain was probably due to glute problems, so that's when I started searching the injury forum. Do you have any links to IT Band stretches? I googled it and came up with this site: iliotibialstretches
But if anything is missing or if you have a better link, I'd love to see it.
How long did it take your knees to recover? Mine are bad enough that getting from standing to sitting (or vice versa) is very uncomfortable, as is picking something up off the floor, etc. I REALLY REALLY don't want to take a break from lifting right now, it's so much fun and I love that I'm seeing results, so it's extremely hard to stay home. But realistically I don't want to damage something so I'm trying to be good.
I was able to do lifting.......just no squats or lunges because I had to strengthen those glute muscles. Leigh had me doing wide standing deadlifts, band hip adduction and single leg bridges (these babies work the glutes, for sure) for the lower body work and insisted on doing treadmill work always on a 3.5% incline.
As for stretches........If you have a foam roller, rolling over that IT Band hurts like hell, but it really helped.
This may help, too!
Here are some of the links of other stretches. Sorry if there aren't pictures.
Just be very diligent with your stretching. You have to do it daily to loosen it up. For me it hurt to walk down steps and downhill, going up was fine. I also dreaded getting up out of a chair......that's when my knees hurt the worst.
I hope you get some relief, soon, Celeste!
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"Become better than you used to be, not better than someone else." ~Inside my program sent by Leigh Peele
Celeste, so sorry your knees are bothering you. Hope the stretches help! I've taken a mini break the last 2 days. I'm feeling a little drained, too. Probably need to take my vitamins and eat a little better and a little more... But the couple of days off have helped, too.
I'm tried the FSPP with a broom..... excellent advise...I feel more comfortabl and confident to try it in the gym for real on Wednesday!
I copied Pauline on that one--hope your workout went well yesterday! Keep us posted, ok?
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Just a side comment - rest week doesn't have to happen after every stage. Every 8-12 weeks... but taking one to pre-hab is a good idea too!
That makes more sense--the book actually says between stages (I think), but Stage 2 is so short it seems silly to rest in between. I've been walking a lot anyway, and as it worked out, b/c of travelling, etc, I would have had to miss one or two workouts anyway, so I suppose it's all good...
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I was able to do lifting.......just no squats or lunges because I had to strengthen those glute muscles. Leigh had me doing wide standing deadlifts, band hip adduction and single leg bridges (these babies work the glutes, for sure) for the lower body work and insisted on doing treadmill work always on a 3.5% incline.
As for stretches........If you have a foam roller, rolling over that IT Band hurts like hell, but it really helped.
Just be very diligent with your stretching. You have to do it daily to loosen it up. For me it hurt to walk down steps and downhill, going up was fine. I also dreaded getting up out of a chair......that's when my knees hurt the worst.
I hope you get some relief, soon, Celeste!
Stephanie, thanks so much for your input and encouragement. I got over being mad that I can't do everything I want to do and I'm just working at that stretching and glute activation. The foam rolling is helping also (I've been foam rolling, but not in the area shown in that video you sent me--OWWW!) I've been trying to stretch at least twice a day, holding for 90sec, and same with the exercises, aiming for 2x and doing 25 reps. Yesterday I spent the entire day in the car so my stretching was limited and exercises nil, except for the 45 min walk I insisted on in the middle of the day!
My knees hurt going down stairs and downhill also, even squatting down to pick something up off the floor, and I learned a new term from GinnyLou's log--"potty flopping"! I hadn't mentioned it before, but the single most uncomfortable movement is getting down on that toilet!!! Now I know I'm in good company, so the official term is potty flopping!!
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Celeste, so sorry your knees are bothering you. Hope the stretches help! I've taken a mini break the last 2 days. I'm feeling a little drained, too. Probably need to take my vitamins and eat a little better and a little more... But the couple of days off have helped, too.
Pauline, thanks for the encouragement. The progress report is that I believe they are improving slowly, but one week won't be enough. (The potty flopping is much less pronounced, though!) I'm going to continue with NROL4W and either try the squats etc at body weight or substitute other exercises in. I'm just such a perfectionist that I don't want to continue unless I can do everything RIGHT!!!
I felt that way about the Front Squat Push Press in Stage 2. I couldn't do one. Had to substitute regular squats because of the shoulder issue. I'm hoping to be able to use the bar for the FSPP in Stage 4 because the shoulder is a little better but not at 100%. So I may have to sub again. Who cares? I'm still getting a really good workout in!!
Hey Celeste. How's the knee doing?
You've got me cracking up with the "potty flopping" thing. I had that when I first started lifting weights just because of DOMs. I can't imagine it from knee pain. Ouch!
Hey Celeste. How's the knee doing?
You've got me cracking up with the "potty flopping" thing. I had that when I first started lifting weights just because of DOMs. I can't imagine it from knee pain. Ouch!
Hey thanks for checking up on me...I haven't had a second to get online in the past week (feels like weeks!). Actually I tried to post an update of my activities on Monday, but I must have forgotten to hit post or something, b/c it disappeared into internet heaven. I've been working round the clock to list a bunch of books and homeschool stuff on ebay AND get ready for a yard sale for this weekend (that's where I am now). So I haven't been on the forums at all. Anyway, here's the update:
Friday, I took my daughter on a "date" with a friend and her daughter--we pampered them and treated them to a fancy tea party to begin a "Secret Keeper Girls" series of mother-daghter dates. It was lots of fun (and I was moderate with my dessert consumption!)
Then my kids, a friend of my daughter's, and I went for the weekend to Ski Sawmill's archery shoot. We stayed in their bunkhouse and had a great time hiking, shooting, and hanging out.
My eating was horrible though--there really were no good food choices since everything was fast food and I didn't have room in my car to pack a cooler, but I was planning on good portion control. THAT didn't happen! It's actually very frustrating because whenever I hit 135# I seem to go crazy and stuff myself even when I'm not hungry. Why do I sabatoge myself like that? I get so close to my goal and then, BOOM, I start eating chips (which I don't like), 5 pieces of pizza for dinner--no joke , late night snacks (which I never do anyway), etc etc etc. What is the stinkin deal?! From counting calories I know I probably gained at least 2-3 lbs (the scale showed 5# but 2-3 of water weight went away after a few days. Anyway, after that 4 or 5 days of trying like crazy to get fat again I managed to get back on track and I'm just trying to keep going without letting myself get too discouraged. Maybe I learned a lesson?...
Almost every day I haven't been lifting I've managed to walk a few miles or use my elliptical as well as doing the stretching and hamstring/glute exercises. My knees have been improving, so Wednesday I decided to get my butt back in the gym before I managed to lose ALL the progress I've made so far!!! I don't have my notes right here, but I did Stage 2, 4A, and my goal since I took so long off was just to do the exact same workout I did for 3A. Can anyone say dumb?! Today is Saturday and I'm STILL very sore, although the good news is that my knees aren't too bad. The day after that workout I actually thought for the first time that I really had lifted too much (and it wasn't that impressive or anything, just my body wasn't used to it)...I was SO sore I actually felt physically sick several times during the day. Of course I stretched and foam rolled etc, but still...I am too all or nothing.
The gym is closed Friday-Sunday, so I'll try to do something weight-like today at home and then 4B on Monday.
Hi, Celeste! How did the yard sale go? Are you recovering from the 4A workout? I was really sore after my last 2 Stage 3 workouts. I guess I was pushing myself more than usual. I did 4-1A today and I'm just a teensy sore. Glad to hear your knees are doing better. I could actually do the FSPP today! My shoulder only complained a teeny tiny bit.
Pauline, we ended up with about $250 from it, but after taking out for what belonged to my children AND paying them a commission (for helping set up, sort stuff, and babysit the younger kids) we ended up with about $160. Not bad, but I always tell myself that I'm done having yard sales--a full day of setting up and two full days of selling for $160?! Of course, my kids really loved the idea that they could declutter and actually see some monetary return, and they REALLY dig the whole "commission" thing. We usually give away our "clutter" or outgrown clothes, so I suppose this was a fun alternative. Last night I posted on freecycle that we were having a free yard sale through this afternoon, so we'll see what ends up left over...
So about the workouts, I'm glad to hear you could do the FSPP finally! They're fun once you get the hang of them, aren't they? I'm not sure I do them completely right, but I still like them. And, yes, I'm even a little sore today... I am looking forward to getting back in there tomorrow though.
Hi Celeste. The "date" sounds like such a great idea! I bet it's a blast. You do so many fun things with your kids. I love reading about them.
I hear you on the eating thing. I find myself doing the same thing. I won't even get into what I've been eating for the last two weeks. I'm glad to hear that you're back on track though. I think the important thing is to recognize it and move to fix it. I can't imagine I'm going to be a terribly good mood for the next week or so while I get my food/calories back in check.
(jalapeno kettle cooked chips, the ONLY chips I LOVE, I just couldn't resist!!!) and then dh ordered PIZZA for dinner. I had something healthy all planned, but again, resistance was futile... 
, late night snacks (which I never do anyway), etc etc etc. What is the stinkin deal?! From counting calories I know I probably gained at least 2-3 lbs (the scale showed 5# but 2-3 of water weight went away after a few days. Anyway, after that 4 or 5 days of trying like crazy to get fat again 
I managed to get back on track and I'm just trying to keep going without letting myself get too discouraged. Maybe I learned a lesson?...