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Old 04-15-2008, 03:19 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I cut my calories to 1600 and it's sad, because I have about 250 left for today and I'm still hungry and it's barely 6pm. Sigh...
I'm not sure what your daily menu is like, but try to make sure you are eating the RIGHT foods - you really can be NOT hungry on 1600 cals - IF you eat the right stuff!! Eat berries vs. bananas, lots of salads, get some good fats in there and lots of lean protein! For me, if I keep my protein at around 40%, and my fats around 30% I'm good!!
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Old 04-15-2008, 03:52 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Yep, yep, yep....back away from the daily M&M's!!
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Old 04-15-2008, 06:01 PM   #63 (permalink)
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hang in there--

btw, your form is cool. have fun with that! Do you perform it at that pace?
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Old 04-15-2008, 06:15 PM   #64 (permalink)
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I don't think you should be shocked or sad that you are hungry. I think it means your metabolism is going faster than in the past when you ate less and that is a great thing! I totally know what you're saying - when I did weight watchers I would eat 1400 cals per day and not feel all that hungry. Now with this crazy awesome weight lifting I still get hungry with 2000 or more.
Thanks for the encouragement - part of me still struggles with "am I HUNGRY or just bored?" -- Right now, I know I am hungry - growling tummy... I want to trust myself to eat when hungry, but as a formerly fat person, it's hard...

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if you're cutting calories - would it be a huge deal to eat an additional 100 calories if you need a little something after dinner?
Probably wouldn't be a big deal... unless it turns into 200 or 300 or... ugh...

Dilly - I'll post my menu, but I AM getting at least 90% good food and my macros are close to 40/30/30 every day... I think my body wants more food, but I have issues with listening to it and trusting it. I've overeaten my way to fat in the past, and I'm afraid it could happen again.
Today: Breakfast was l/f whole-wheat eggo with pb on it
HIIT workout
Snack - Protein shake made w/ skim milk, pb, protein powder
lunch - whole-wheat pita w/ chicken breast & lite mayo, red pepper slices, cauliflower...
Snack - cottage cheese
dinner - hard-cooked egg (1), turkey tenderloins, sweet potato, 1 small square dark chocolate

I'm at 1500 cals with 38/31/31 macros... still debating my evening snack choices...

Jane - I know the m&m's aren't a great choice... but I do love my small treat after dinner... I don't do it EVERY night... . I'm working on finding a balance between nutrition and feeling completely deprived... and I've come a LONG way (but I know I'm also not "there" yet).

LisaC - thanks for the encouragement. The youtube link I posted is much slower than the way I do that kata - it was the only version I could find with the guy doing a decent horse-stance though - the other versions I saw on youtube were done standing almost upright - NOT the way our school teaches it. If I did it that high up, I'd be laughed right out of the dojo . My Sensei is always on my case about getting my stances deeper - calls me taekwondo woman (and that's NOT a compliment, coming from him!!!)
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Old 04-16-2008, 07:40 AM   #65 (permalink)
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what youtube link, I wanna see!!!
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Old 04-16-2008, 09:04 AM   #66 (permalink)
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what youtube link, I wanna see!!!
It was in LisaC's log (or maybe Ledove's???) -- just a guy on youtube doing a karate kata that is the one I just learned (although he does it much slower in his style than I do)...

Still having a rough time with food here... wish I could see the future and know how many calories / macros are right for me!!!!
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Old 04-16-2008, 09:31 AM   #67 (permalink)
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Just completely random – but something small that makes me full every time is a hard boiled egg. Of course, I can plow through 3-4, but in the times I have eaten just one I have felt full for a good 2 hours – or at least haven’t though about eating for that amount of time. Do you ever eat them?
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Old 04-16-2008, 01:37 PM   #68 (permalink)
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I've been freezing Myoplex Lite Chocolate Fudge ready-to-drinks. I set one out on the counter during dinner and wehn I'm hungry again a few hours later, it's at th perfect slushy consistency. It takes a while to eat, so I feel pretty satisfied.

I like HB eggs, too, but not at night. Weird, huh?

Another nighttime fave is a Luna Nutz Over Chocolate bar. I do this rarely, cuz they are a bit higher in cals. But, still a healthier choice than some, with plenty of protein.

Chocolate seems to be what I crave at night!
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Old 04-16-2008, 03:40 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Thanks Tess & Sally - I do eat hb eggs - had one last night, probably will again tonight... I had an "issue" boiling them earlier this week (UGH! - let's just say I tried to kill my family with gas fumes ) and there's one left for tonight... Not sure it's worth the risk of death to make another batch though .

I've just gotta work on this... I don't think being THIS hungry is good for me or for building muscle... I dunno... I'm getting a lot of conflicting food for thought (pun intended?) on the training message board... trying to integrate it all (SS or HIIT or both... caloric deficit or feed the muscle or somewhere in the middle or ??????)

Sigh...
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Old 04-16-2008, 08:10 PM   #70 (permalink)
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I think it's an inexact sceince at best, and a creative art at best. We've just got to keep working.
It'll come.
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Old 04-16-2008, 08:48 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Hmmmm..... I think something is definatly amiss here. Do you have a food scale and do you weigh your food? I know that before I got my scal I was grossly over estimating my foods in many cases. You may be doing the same thing.
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Old 04-16-2008, 11:39 PM   #72 (permalink)
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^^^^ that

Also ditch the ratios. Ratios don't mean much.

Shoot for:

1 gram per lb of body weight in protein
10 kcals per lb of body weight

Fill in the rest from healthy fats and carbs (you won't have much left over).

If that doesn't get the weight dropping, not much will.
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Old 04-17-2008, 09:33 AM   #73 (permalink)
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It was in LisaC's log (or maybe Ledove's???) -- just a guy on youtube doing a karate kata that is the one I just learned (although he does it much slower in his style than I do)...
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I had an "issue" boiling them earlier this week (UGH! - let's just say I tried to kill my family with gas fumes ) and there's one left for tonight... Not sure it's worth the risk of death to make another batch though .
Did the eggs explode, too? Apparently they do that if you let all the water boil off. Oops. Not that I know that from experience or anything...
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Old 04-17-2008, 10:59 AM   #74 (permalink)
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My kids have a cookbook that has a little rhyme about how to cook boiled eggs:

Perfect Hard-Cooked Eggs by Lisa Johnson

Put 'em in cold water
Cook 'em till they bump.
Simmer for 12 minutes,
Peel 'em with a thump.

If you immerse them in cold water at the end of the 12 minutes, that's even better!
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Old 04-17-2008, 11:21 AM   #75 (permalink)
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Sally -
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I think it's an inexact sceince at best, and a creative art at best. We've just got to keep working.
It'll come.
Thanks... yes, I think it's figuring out the balance. We have a body gem at work that measures RMR - I'm trying to get a chance to use it on myself...

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Do you have a food scale and do you weigh your food? I know that before I got my scal I was grossly over estimating my foods in many cases. You may be doing the same thing.
I do measure some, but not all, of my food. I count out things like 12 almonds too, instead of "a handful"... and I buy prepackaged when I can (yogurt, cottage cheese...) because I know it's exact. I should try being really strict with it and see if I can catch myself super-sizing...

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Also ditch the ratios. Ratios don't mean much.

Shoot for:

1 gram per lb of body weight in protein
10 kcals per lb of body weight

Fill in the rest from healthy fats and carbs (you won't have much left over).

If that doesn't get the weight dropping, not much will.
Ditch the ratios? Really? Because I've been trying to increase my fat (When I started logging and checking macros, my fat was usually around 15%). I do get about 150g protein/day... Do you suggest 10kcal/# goal weight or current body weight? That seems low, though, for someone who is doing these workouts (NROL4W) and wants to be around 130-140#... ??? Seems like going back to where I was stalled-out - struggling to stay under 1400 kcal/day and starving and all that other crap...

Leslie & Pauline --
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Did the eggs explode, too? Apparently they do that if you let all the water boil off. Oops. Not that I know that from experience or anything...
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Put 'em in cold water
Cook 'em till they bump.
Simmer for 12 minutes,
Peel 'em with a thump.
Uhhh... well... seems I put them in when it was already boiling (oops!) and so they, of course, exploded upon contact with the water. In the process of containing the mess, somehow the flame was turned off - but not the gas. Yikes! So then I left my eggs sitting in water with gas but no flame... the only thing that saved us was that I have this egg-timer thingy that floats in the water and turns colors to show the eggs are done. It didn't change color - that's how I noticed the flame was off and ran to open all the windows!!! If I hadn't had it in there, I'd probably have cooled off and cracked a buncha raw eggs before I figured it out
Love the poem - I think I'd better memorize it!!!
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Old 04-17-2008, 11:34 AM   #76 (permalink)
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That recommendation was a blanket recommendation for a diet to drop fat off. You'd obviously have to adjust your activity level accordingly

10xBW is ~BMR, give or take. 10-12xBW is usually the range given for fat loss in most people. Some have to go lower, but if you're reasonably active then anything under 12 will be about right.
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