Interesting thread on the NRLW board about lack of weight-loss... didja see it? Hmmmmm...
I'm still totally confused. I don't want to do anything as extreme as you're doing (I just don't think I could handle that kind of diet, at this time in my life)... but I don't know - do I eat more? Less? Differently? I don't want to starve or kill my metabolism, but... HELP!?!?!?!!!! sigh...
OMG, Bytsi, I feel you. What will freakin' work? My pudge ain't movin'!!!
I'm not looking for a miracle. I know I have to give to get, and I KNOW I can work harder than 99% of the women my age. I know this because I belong to various and sundry groups where we all work hard for a certain cause, and they fall out and I keep going; they are sore and beat to hell the next day after yard work or major hauling, and I am just fine.
(Peasant legs, Steph.)
I'm as close to ketosis as I've ever been; workout kicked a$$ tonight because of the lack of carbs. I'll post tomorrow. For tonight, suffice it to say, I'm in this HARD for another 12 days.
Then, ...
...we'll see.
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I sound like a biotch in the post above. Must be my evil twin talking like that.
OK. I've got my wittle paper reminding me of my workout, so I can post
Day 3 of Warrior's 14 Day CKD for Fat Loss
Chest & Back Giant Sets
No rest between exercises, 2 sets, 2 minutes between sets:
BB BenchPress: 6@95
DB Incline Press: 12@25
DB Incline Flys: 25@20
2 Minute rest. Then,
No rest between exercises, 2 sets, 2 minutes between sets:
Wide Grip Lat P/D: 6@85,80
Bent Rows: 12@40
Close Grip, U/H P/D: 25@70,60
I did a failure set on the pec squeezy machine on my way to the cardio area. Cuz I'm a beast.
Elliptical, 20 mins, level 3 "Intervals" 20/35, 136-138.
GREAT Music in my ears. Tried no to hold on at all. I was dripping, breathing hard, and felt amazing.
Moved over to the TM, 25 minutes, Hill/SS intervals, depending on the music. For example, When "Girl" by Beck came on I ran at 5.0 until the song ended. When "What I Got" by Sublime came on, I upped the incline to 9, speed down to 2.8 - look, Ma, no hands! - and kicked that for 3 minutes. Kept doing as the music told me to, pushing myself just a little either speed or incline, until my time was up. It was really tough to run after the eliptical, though. My tushy was tired, or something.
FOOD:
This isn't hard, yet.
1867 cals.
Carb: 8.76
Protein: 48.06
Fat: 43.18
Day 4, here I come.
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Wow Sally... I admire your determination. I know I wouldn't do well with that low carbs...
I posted in the NROLW forum, but I had a weird 2# weight loss overnight, after a relatively low-cal day (not on purpose, just not hungry)... Hoping it was that whoosh fairy and it stays gone.
Keep checking in - I'm following your journey with baited breath!
I also read Rixa and Natalia and Karla's stuff, about eating more (clean) food to lose, and I so desperately want to believe that can work. I tried dropping my maintenance by about 100 cals after I didn't lose anything last month, and if anything I might've gained a tiny bit this month. I'll wait for measurements, but...
Ugh.
Well, you can either believe it and try it or keep on doing what you are doing and see the same results. Seriously sweeties get a handle on the food. Weigh every morsel for a little while until you are sure that you have the correct data about what you are doing. If you truely are undereating all you will have to do is eat more to lose weight. I know it is nutz and scary but it is true.
Of course for me the cutting starts tomorrow and this will be most interesting. It always takes me 5-6 weeks to get into a loss mode. Now that I have a healthy metabolism I expect it to go faster. I don't know how it will work in reality though.
Sally, keep on keeping on with the tracking. I like what I am seeing in you posting your macros. If you don't have a food scale, get one as soon as you can. I know it is a pain but it doesn't have to be forever. Just long enough for you to troubleshoot what is going on.
Thanks guys. It seems we have a concensus! I'll get a scale. I feel pretty accuarate on most of the foods I eat - 4 oz. meat is the size of my palm, and I actually eat out of measuring cups when I'm unsure. (One Cup of Cottage Cheese is a LOT!) But, it WOULD be nice to KNOW that my guesstimates are either spot-on, or under!
I am learning much doing this 14 day jaunt. I ate a TON of pot roast last night - meat only, no potatoes and only 1 C. of carrots - and I felt great, didn't go over my macros... interesting.
Day 5 CKD
2,009 k/cals
41 g. carb
C: 10.53%/P:48.23%/F:41.24
60 mins. LISS cardio on the TM.
Beach today for ds's vb. I'm wearing the bikini bottoms I wore in my "before" picture, but with a Tankini top. Don't know if I'll ever wear a 'kini in public, which is ok. That's not one of my goals. After 4 kids, there's just so much you can do!
But, I DO feel a little better about my bod than I did 2 months ago, which is strange, since I weigh MORE. But, I'm working so hard. I FEEL better about it.
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Actually a cup of cottage cheese is WAY more than the grams in a serving of a cup of cottage cheese. Same thing goes for cereal. That is why the 20 dollar in investment in a scale will totally enlighten you so at least some of the things that are going not well in your plans. It will be fun to hear you come to these learngings over the next weeks.
The eating a ton and feeling great thing happens when you are giving your body the right kinds of macros (AKA not cheating). This is the thing I constantly talk about in my log. Cravings actually stop when you hit that which your body needs. It is very cool and very much about knowing exactly what you are doing so you can tweak things and figure it all out. It looks like you are almost there.
Actually a cup of cottage cheese is WAY more than the grams in a serving of a cup of cottage cheese. .
My macro tracker (daily plate) let's me choose to measure by gram, or cup. Since I don't have a scale - yet! - I always use a quantifiable measure; aka, measuring cup.
Is this a mistake?
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It looks like you are almost there.
Oh, I truly hope so! Thank you!!
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I think the concern is that non-weighted measurements can be off. How do people level their tablespoons, or cups, and such. I use glass measuring cups for things like broccoli (not really a huge deal if you're off). When measuring other items you have to be careful that you're not taking more than you're meant to. Sometimes packaging information can be wrong - a cup (followed by an oz or g measurement) may not always weigh that amount.
I have measuring spoon/scoops for higher calorie items, which I'll take a knife and flatten/scrape to the level of the spoon or scoop. Surface tension can cause liquids to round on a measuring spoon as well, giving you more than you want. It is often considered that measurement error can completely change what actual portions people use.
This is why a lot of bakers (my uncle in Scotland has a ... well, factory really) weigh ingredients. Measuring can be quite imprecise. When you get a scale try measuring 2 cups of (pick a product) by weight. You'll likely see a bit of a difference depending on your method of determining what a cup is.
Having said all that I still use a mixture of measuring cups/spoons and the scale when I cook and/or bake. Although often if I'm making a big batch of something (even soup) to freeze I'll weigh all ingredients. Since how big is a medium onion really? (Answer from FitDay ~ 4oz or a 2-1/2" diameter. It's sometimes just easier to weigh what you use!)
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Wow. That is enlightening as all get out! I DO in fact, lick the spoon. Thanks for sharing it. Gotta get me a food scale pronto.
I got a MAJOR bummola last night. It was supposed to be my pre-load carb evening before and after a pm, glyco-depletion workout.
I preloaded carbs by using milk in my pre-workout shake instead of water, ordered the roasted veggie/anchovie pizza for post workout carb load - (yum) then went to the gym and IT WAS CLOSED!:ma d: GRRR!
I picked up and ate the pizza anyway, and plan to do the workout today but I was following plan to the letter and this just bites my butt. Today was supposed to be back to low carb w/ no workout - rest.
Don't know how it will affect my results to do the depletion routine today on low carb, but that's what I'm doing. Darn it.
On the upside, I hit my macros almost to a T yesterday, and I'm very proud of that:
2,300 cals
C:32%/P:36%/F32%
A little planning goes a long way.
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I got a MAJOR bummola last night. It was supposed to be my pre-load carb evening before and after a pm, glyco-depletion workout.
I preloaded carbs by using milk in my pre-workout shake instead of water, ordered the roasted veggie/anchovie pizza for post workout carb load - (yum) then went to the gym and IT WAS CLOSED!:ma d: GRRR!
I picked up and ate the pizza anyway, and plan to do the workout today but I was following plan to the letter and this just bites my butt. Today was supposed to be back to low carb w/ no workout - rest.
Don't know how it will affect my results to do the depletion routine today on low carb, but that's what I'm doing. Darn it.
Closed!?!?!? How DARE they?
I can't say from any real basis, but I suspect one slightly mis-timed workout/carb moment isn't the end of the world... Have a good workout today...
And buy that food scale! I used mine already this morning
I like the scale because I'm lazy! I can just plop everything onto my plate without messing up any measuring cups or spoons! I weigh ingredients on all my recipes and write the weight on my recipe next to the measuring cup/spoon amount. Then when I make something, I just pop the bowl on the scale, tare it to zero, and start dumping ingredients in. It's great!!
Thanks guys. It seems we have a concensus! I'll get a scale. I feel pretty accuarate on most of the foods I eat - 4 oz. meat is the size of my palm, and I actually eat out of measuring cups when I'm unsure. (One Cup of Cottage Cheese is a LOT!) But, it WOULD be nice to KNOW that my guesstimates are either spot-on, or under!
Get a digital scale that measures grams, too! I got mine at a Target for around $28. This has been a lifesaver for me. Everything in my FitDay custom foods list is now in grams. I do however put the cup amount by the title so if I can't be near a scale I at least know an approximate.
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Actually a cup of cottage cheese is WAY more than the grams in a serving of a cup of cottage cheese. Same thing goes for cereal. That is why the 20 dollar in investment in a scale will totally enlighten you so at least some of the things that are going not well in your plans. It will be fun to hear you come to these learngings over the next weeks.
Yep......That!! ^^^^^
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I pretty much weigh the heavy duty items, cheese, nut butters, Cottage Cheese, Oatmeal, Meat.
Paula beat me to it! I was going to suggest that you watch that video. Makes ya say Hmmmmmmmm! Doesn't it?
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I like the scale because I'm lazy! I can just plop everything onto my plate without messing up any measuring cups or spoons! I weigh ingredients on all my recipes and write the weight on my recipe next to the measuring cup/spoon amount. Then when I make something, I just pop the bowl on the scale, tare it to zero, and start dumping ingredients in. It's great!!
Pauline.......I do the same thing. I measure everything out in grams for a recipe........Then in FitDay, I mark it's total in grams. Then when I go to eat leftovers, I just weigh it and it's set for my macros. The tare option is awesome, too.
Sooooooooooo................Ha ve you gotten a scale yet???
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I got a scale! Not sure it's the best one in the world; I only paid $10 at Walmart, but I used it to measure this am and it seems about right. Half cup of cottage cheese (125 g) is actually more than I thought, which is a relief of sorts.
Yesterday was...
Day 6 of Warrior's 14 day CKD for Fat Loss
1780 cals
51 g carbs
C: 16.66%/P: 50.32%/F:33.02%
Workout was the Depletion Routine:
Squats: 2x15@65
Leg Curls: 2@15@60
Quad Extensions: 2x15@50
Calf Raise: 2x20@100
Bench Press: 2x12@85
Military: 2x12@65
Close Grip PD's: 2x15@60
Tri Ext: 2x10@50
BB Curls: 2x10@40/30
Back Ext: 2x20@BW
Decline Crunches: 2x10slow@BW
I was supposed to do bent rows, but missed them somehow. I was plum tuckered anyway. I liked this routine a lot. He says the point is not to push heavy, but push reps, slow and controlled, so that's what I tried to do.
I get kinda sick of upping weights every time; my neck is just so dang sore all the time. I think I tense up to try to move the weight. This was a NICE change, and I feel like the workout was even better in some ways, for me. I don't think the weights were wussy enough to consider that I didn't push myslef, I feel like I did enough. But my neck feels better this am than it has in a while.
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Do NOT hurt your neck!!! Once you kill it, it's never the same again, and you will regret it... Remember, it's not always about increased weight - a PR can be a better tempo, better form, finishing all the reps... only increasing weight on ONE set of ONE exercise... nothing is worth hurting yourself, ok???
Does the walmart scale come with cubic zirconia instead of diamonds???
Another great workout and your weights are plenty heavy. Good form should always come first. You are on a defecit so you cannot expect to keep upping your weights. You can bet over the next 2 months that I will not be posting a lot of PRs. The only PR I am focused on now is the bf lowering one.
Hi there. Nice log you have going on in here. I am in need of a scale, so I think I may go take a lookie at WM and see if I can find one as cheap as you did!
Thanks for the compliment on the challenge pictures thread. I appreciate it. Yes, the 1st pics were taken the beginning of Jan and the others were yesterday.
Keep up the good work!
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Karla, thanks. That makes a lot of sense. I feel a bit guilty when I'm not pushing more and more weight each workout, but you're right; I'm really focused on losing some phlub. Priorities!
You are looking great, Ginny. That's got to feel wonderful!
Yesterday was...
Day 7 of Warrior's 14 day CKD for Fat Loss
1950 cals
52 g carbs Amazing what less than a gram of blackberries can do!
C:16.75%/P:50.37%/F:32.87%
Workout was HISS: 20 mins Elliptical level 4, as fast as my chunky legs could go. Drenched.
Moved over to the bike for 20 mins @ level 5, breathin' hard, but not quite as sweaty;
Then 20 mins on the incline TM - never tried that before. It goes up to 50% incline! I only went up to 25, walked at 2.0 to some sexy songs, didn't hold on... breathing hard, and moderate sweat; feeling it in my hiney today.
ABS:
2 minutes in Hell (My DD brought this one home from college - basketball team conditioning. The name fits.)
Then a set of Triple ups.
Finished with the ab wheel, 2 sets of 10/9.
I can't believe I've done this to the very best of my ability for a week already. I feel great. Refuse to weigh or measure til it's over, though... I don't want to get discouraged.
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2 sets, no rest between exercises, 2 minutes rest between sets
Military on machine: 6@75
Lat DB: 12@10's
Upright Rows: 25@40/35
2 sets, no rest between exercises, 2 minutes rest between sets
Close Grip Presses: 6@60
Rope Press: 12@50
Machine Press: 25@45
2 sets, no rest between exercises, 2 minutes rest between sets
Incline DB Curlz: 6@15's
St. BB Curls: 12@30
Hammer Curls: 25@10's ouch.
30 mins HIIT on a new, elliptical type machine that KILLED my quads.
So, there you have it.
I was surprised that 4 oz. of steak is quite a lot. I would have said I was eating 6 oz. The Daily Plate lists so much in cups instead of grams, but I'm starting to pay more attention. That's a good thing.
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I'm so frikkin' piffed right now. I got my first pd since Christmas. DANGITALL!! I really thought I was DONE with this crap. And, I was wearing the good panties, too!!
On the upside, I don't feel real fat...
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I'm so frikkin' piffed right now. I got my first pd since Christmas. DANGITALL!! I really thought I was DONE with this crap. And, I was wearing the good panties, too!!
On the upside, I don't feel real fat...
ROTFLMAO!!! I know I shouldn't laugh but this is funny. It starts all serious and then you got the upside. Girlfriend, you are lucky to have only had one in all that time!
Interesting what you are learning from the scale already. If you consistently underestimate your meat sized you might be cheating yourself on the protein. This will be fun to watch.
I'm so frikkin' piffed right now. I got my first pd since Christmas. DANGITALL!! I really thought I was DONE with this crap. And, I was wearing the good panties, too!!
On the upside, I don't feel real fat...
Well... my pd. is due any day now (well, Monday, but it seems to be coming early lately - ugh!) - soooo... ya know how they say women who live together end up on the same cycle? Maybe women who POST together end up on the same cycle
I'm so frikkin' piffed right now. I got my first pd since Christmas. DANGITALL!! I really thought I was DONE with this crap. And, I was wearing the good panties, too!!
Oh, my goodness, I take it back. I feel fatter than the Goodyear Blimp! Five months of - uch - all socked in this over-stuffed barrel I have for a gut. Nastiness.
Ate like I was wolf-hungry or something last night, but tried to keep the choices clean: those wonderful Smokehouse Wasabi Almonds - oooh! Twenty-three per serving. Yumola. And, I admit to - and logged - the 1 oz crusty edge off the pan of brownies D made. She was so sweet; as she's licking the spoon, she catches me watching, says, "This isn't really all that good, Mom". HA!
Yesterday was ...
Day 9 of Warrior's 14 Day CKD for Fat Loss
2365 cals (just a crusty edge, for Pete's sake!)
57 g Carb
C:12.28/P:55.58/F:32.14
Workout was Lower Body Tension Training:
Leg Presses: 10@180, 20@110
Extensions: 10@80, 20@50
Curls: 10@80, 20@60
Glute Press: 10@45, 20@25
Calf Raises: 14@180, then held for 27 secs.
Str. Leg Raise: 12 w/ blue band, held for 15 secs.
Cardio was LISS, and I chose to do a recommended Zumba class rather than slog on a machine. I gotta tell you, this was my first foray into "women's" fitness classes in YEARS, and it's changed a LOT! These gals were shakin' what God gave 'em like they were on stage or something! I am a quick study for steps and such, but these were VERY sexy, hip shaking booty-swirling moves that my stiff old body had a heckuva time picking up. Very humbling, to say the least. Especially with all the mirrors all around! My barrel-belly self shimmying...
It WAS fun, a good cardio workout, and I will go back once a week or so, when it fits in my plan.
Onward...
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