How I'm Destroying My Evil Twin - Page 4 - JP Fitness Forums

Bytsi · 04-30-2008, 03:13 PM

Interesting thread on the NRLW board about lack of weight-loss... didja see it? Hmmmmm...

I'm still totally confused. I don't want to do anything as extreme as you're doing (I just don't think I could handle that kind of diet, at this time in my life)... but I don't know - do I eat more? Less? Differently? I don't want to starve or kill my metabolism, but... HELP!?!?!?!!!! sigh...

Silly Sally · 04-30-2008, 09:55 PM

OMG, Bytsi, I feel you. What will freakin' work? My pudge ain't movin'!!!

I'm not looking for a miracle. I know I have to give to get, and I KNOW I can work harder than 99% of the women my age. I know this because I belong to various and sundry groups where we all work hard for a certain cause, and they fall out and I keep going; they are sore and beat to hell the next day after yard work or major hauling, and I am just fine.

(Peasant legs, Steph.)

I'm as close to ketosis as I've ever been; workout kicked a$$ tonight because of the lack of carbs. I'll post tomorrow. For tonight, suffice it to say, I'm in this HARD for another 12 days.

Then, ...

...we'll see.

Silly Sally · 05-01-2008, 06:13 AM

I sound like a biotch in the post above. Must be my evil twin talking like that.

OK. I've got my wittle paper reminding me of my workout, so I can post

Day 3 of Warrior's 14 Day CKD for Fat Loss

Chest & Back Giant Sets

No rest between exercises, 2 sets, 2 minutes between sets:
BB BenchPress: 6@95
DB Incline Press: 12@25
DB Incline Flys: 25@20

2 Minute rest. Then,
No rest between exercises, 2 sets, 2 minutes between sets:
Wide Grip Lat P/D: 6@85,80
Bent Rows: 12@40
Close Grip, U/H P/D: 25@70,60

I did a failure set on the pec squeezy machine on my way to the cardio area. Cuz I'm a beast.

Elliptical, 20 mins, level 3 "Intervals" 20/35, 136-138.
GREAT Music in my ears. Tried no to hold on at all. I was dripping, breathing hard, and felt amazing.

Moved over to the TM, 25 minutes, Hill/SS intervals, depending on the music. For example, When "Girl" by Beck came on I ran at 5.0 until the song ended. When "What I Got" by Sublime came on, I upped the incline to 9, speed down to 2.8 - look, Ma, no hands! - and kicked that for 3 minutes. Kept doing as the music told me to, pushing myself just a little either speed or incline, until my time was up. It was really tough to run after the eliptical, though. My tushy was tired, or something.

FOOD:
This isn't hard, yet.

1867 cals.
Carb: 8.76

Protein: 48.06

Fat: 43.18

Day 4, here I come.

Bytsi · 05-01-2008, 09:37 AM

Wow Sally... I admire your determination. I know I wouldn't do well with that low carbs...

I posted in the NROLW forum, but I had a weird 2# weight loss overnight, after a relatively low-cal day (not on purpose, just not hungry)... Hoping it was that whoosh fairy and it stays gone.

Keep checking in - I'm following your journey with baited breath!

Silly Sally · 05-02-2008, 06:26 AM

Congrats on your weight loss, Bytsi. All this work HAS to pay off eventually, right?

Yesterday, May 1, 2008

Day 4 of Warrior's 14 Day CKD Fat Loss Plan

1915 k/cals
32 g. carbs

8.46% carb/47.53% protein/44.02% fat

Workout:

Quad & Ham Giant Sets

No rest between Exercises, 2 sets, 2 minutes between sets:
Squats: 6@105#
Split Squats, 12 each leg@25#
Quad Extensions: 25@35# (ouch)

Full 2 Minute Rest then,

No rest between Exercises, 2 sets, 2 minutes between sets:
Leg Curl: 6@40
Deadlifts: 12@75
Back Extensions: 25

30 minutes Hill Intervals on the TM.

yesssss.

Bytsi · 05-02-2008, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silly Sally

Day 4 of Warrior's 14 Day CKD Fat Loss Plan

1915 k/cals
32 g. carbs

8.46% carb/47.53% protein/44.02% fat

Workout:

Quad & Ham Giant Sets

No rest between Exercises, 2 sets, 2 minutes between sets:
Squats: 6@105#
Split Squats, 12 each leg@25#
Quad Extensions: 25@35# (ouch)

Full 2 Minute Rest then,

No rest between Exercises, 2 sets, 2 minutes between sets:
Leg Curl: 6@40
Deadlifts: 12@75
Back Extensions: 25

30 minutes Hill Intervals on the TM.

yesssss.

I'm exhausted just READING this!

kfisherx · 05-02-2008, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bytsi

I also read Rixa and Natalia and Karla's stuff, about eating more (clean) food to lose, and I so desperately want to believe that can work. I tried dropping my maintenance by about 100 cals after I didn't lose anything last month, and if anything I might've gained a tiny bit this month. I'll wait for measurements, but...

Ugh.

Well, you can either believe it and try it or keep on doing what you are doing and see the same results.

Seriously sweeties get a handle on the food. Weigh every morsel for a little while until you are sure that you have the correct data about what you are doing. If you truely are undereating all you will have to do is eat more to lose weight. I know it is nutz and scary but it is true.

Of course for me the cutting starts tomorrow and this will be most interesting. It always takes me 5-6 weeks to get into a loss mode. Now that I have a healthy metabolism I expect it to go faster. I don't know how it will work in reality though.

Sally, keep on keeping on with the tracking. I like what I am seeing in you posting your macros. If you don't have a food scale, get one as soon as you can. I know it is a pain but it doesn't have to be forever. Just long enough for you to troubleshoot what is going on.

foodfromafar · 05-02-2008, 09:53 PM

Yeah, a scale is the way to go to get a handle on portions...

Silly Sally · 05-03-2008, 06:43 AM

Thanks guys. It seems we have a concensus! I'll get a scale. I feel pretty accuarate on most of the foods I eat - 4 oz. meat is the size of my palm, and I actually eat out of measuring cups when I'm unsure. (One Cup of Cottage Cheese is a LOT!) But, it WOULD be nice to KNOW that my guesstimates are either spot-on, or under!

I am learning much doing this 14 day jaunt. I ate a TON of pot roast last night - meat only, no potatoes and only 1 C. of carrots - and I felt great, didn't go over my macros... interesting.

Day 5 CKD

2,009 k/cals
41 g. carb

C: 10.53%/P:48.23%/F:41.24

60 mins. LISS cardio on the TM.

Beach today for ds's vb. I'm wearing the bikini bottoms I wore in my "before" picture, but with a Tankini top. Don't know if I'll ever wear a 'kini in public, which is ok. That's not one of my goals. After 4 kids, there's just so much you can do!

But, I DO feel a little better about my bod than I did 2 months ago, which is strange, since I weigh MORE. But, I'm working so hard. I FEEL better about it.

kfisherx · 05-03-2008, 09:20 AM

Actually a cup of cottage cheese is WAY more than the grams in a serving of a cup of cottage cheese. Same thing goes for cereal. That is why the 20 dollar in investment in a scale will totally enlighten you so at least some of the things that are going not well in your plans. It will be fun to hear you come to these learngings over the next weeks.

The eating a ton and feeling great thing happens when you are giving your body the right kinds of macros (AKA not cheating). This is the thing I constantly talk about in my log. Cravings actually stop when you hit that which your body needs. It is very cool and very much about knowing exactly what you are doing so you can tweak things and figure it all out. It looks like you are almost there.

Silly Sally · 05-03-2008, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by kfisherx

Actually a cup of cottage cheese is WAY more than the grams in a serving of a cup of cottage cheese. .

My macro tracker (daily plate) let's me choose to measure by gram, or cup. Since I don't have a scale - yet! - I always use a quantifiable measure; aka, measuring cup.

Is this a mistake?

Quote:

Originally Posted by kfisherx

It looks like you are almost there.

Oh, I truly hope so!

Thank you!!

realcdn · 05-03-2008, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silly Sally

Is this a mistake?

I think the concern is that non-weighted measurements can be off. How do people level their tablespoons, or cups, and such. I use glass measuring cups for things like broccoli (not really a huge deal if you're off). When measuring other items you have to be careful that you're not taking more than you're meant to. Sometimes packaging information can be wrong - a cup (followed by an oz or g measurement) may not always weigh that amount.

I have measuring spoon/scoops for higher calorie items, which I'll take a knife and flatten/scrape to the level of the spoon or scoop. Surface tension can cause liquids to round on a measuring spoon as well, giving you more than you want. It is often considered that measurement error can completely change what actual portions people use.

This is why a lot of bakers (my uncle in Scotland has a ... well, factory really) weigh ingredients. Measuring can be quite imprecise. When you get a scale try measuring 2 cups of (pick a product) by weight. You'll likely see a bit of a difference depending on your method of determining what a cup is.

Having said all that I still use a mixture of measuring cups/spoons and the scale when I cook and/or bake. Although often if I'm making a big batch of something (even soup) to freeze I'll weigh all ingredients. Since how big is a medium onion really? (Answer from FitDay ~ 4oz or a 2-1/2" diameter. It's sometimes just easier to weigh what you use!)

SpacecityPaula · 05-03-2008, 04:41 PM

I pretty much weigh the heavy duty items, cheese, nut butters, Cottage Cheese, Oatmeal, Meat.

If you've never seen it, check out Leigh Peele's video she did for Fatloss Troubleshoot
YouTube - Shocking Fat Loss Tip!

Bytsi · 05-03-2008, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpacecityPaula

I pretty much weigh the heavy duty items, cheese, nut butters, Cottage Cheese, Oatmeal, Meat.

If you've never seen it, check out Leigh Peele's video she did for Fatloss Troubleshoot
YouTube - Shocking Fat Loss Tip!

Wow... time to get out my new scale even on measured items!

Silly Sally · 05-04-2008, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpacecityPaula

I pretty much weigh the heavy duty items, cheese, nut butters, Cottage Cheese, Oatmeal, Meat.

If you've never seen it, check out Leigh Peele's video she did for Fatloss Troubleshoot
YouTube - Shocking Fat Loss Tip!

Wow. That is enlightening as all get out! I DO in fact, lick the spoon.

Thanks for sharing it. Gotta get me a food scale pronto.

I got a MAJOR bummola last night. It was supposed to be my pre-load carb evening before and after a pm, glyco-depletion workout.

I preloaded carbs by using milk in my pre-workout shake instead of water, ordered the roasted veggie/anchovie pizza for post workout carb load - (yum) then went to the gym and IT WAS CLOSED!

:ma d: GRRR!

I picked up and ate the pizza anyway, and plan to do the workout today but I was following plan to the letter and this just bites my butt. Today was supposed to be back to low carb w/ no workout - rest.

Don't know how it will affect my results to do the depletion routine today on low carb, but that's what I'm doing. Darn it.

On the upside, I hit my macros almost to a T yesterday, and I'm very proud of that:

2,300 cals

C:32%/P:36%/F32%

A little planning goes a long way.