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Old 03-31-2008, 05:58 PM   #181 (permalink)
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Hang in there, Kelly! Feel better!
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Old 03-31-2008, 07:18 PM   #182 (permalink)
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Thanks Tracey!
Eats not as bad as I thought

meal 1
orange
4 egg whites
1 egg
1/2 dry oats
1/4 C skim milk

Meal 2
Pure Protein Bar EMERGENCY RATIONS LOL!

Meal 3
low carb tortilla
lettuce
salsa
5 oz chicken breast
apple

Meal 4
Healthy Choice Chicken Marinara (felt like doo doo)
2 C broccoli
4 oz chicken breast

Meal 5
1/2 C cottage cheese 4% ( well I goofed and got the wrong carton today )
1 sc PP
1 C strawberries
almonds

1872 Cals
44p/20f/38c Yep, these macros don't add up. Go figure, who knows, I am too tired.
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Old 03-31-2008, 07:20 PM   #183 (permalink)
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Kelly, I'm so sorry you were discouraged by something insensitive that someone posted on this board. If you would like to pursue it, please PM it to me and I'll handle it with the other mods' help.

This board arose from a group at Men's Health ... when things went south over at their board a number of years ago, JP started this one and it has grown exponentially. Until NROL4W came out and Lou put it in the book, there were very few women on here (Jennmedic, Jamie/RedWifey, Lisa~, LisaS, L'ilJ, tkinsley, cappuccino, Galya, me ... and that's about it). A few more joined here and there, but there was always just a handful of us.
The boys can play rough, but not as rough as other places (like Lyle McDonald's Bodyrecomposition forum). Some of them are FFBs (former fat boys) and some still struggle with it (look through the Men's challenge thread). But some are young stupid ignorant muscleheads. MOST of the men here are great and kind and supportive and helpful. Don't let a few meatheads ruin it for you.

If you need help sticking up for yourself, please PM me any threads you find offensive ... JP has said that he will not tolerate that type of thing here.

And good for you on recognizing that NROL4W, while a great program, is not the program for you to help you reach your goals. I have come to the same conclusion, and have hired a trainer too to custom build a program for me. It may take time, but we will NOT be fat any more!! (and I just confessed my weight to my hubby ... we weigh the same )
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Old 04-01-2008, 04:59 AM   #184 (permalink)
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It may take time, but we will NOT be fat any more!! (and I just confessed my weight to my hubby ... we weigh the same )
Uh Ditto that until last week when he lost and I didn't! AND he is 6'3" LOL. Come sit in my lap honey, uh not LOL!
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Old 04-01-2008, 06:20 AM   #185 (permalink)
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As you go further and further into your journey, I think weight will become less and less important, giving way to body composition (body fat percentage).
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Old 04-01-2008, 07:08 PM   #186 (permalink)
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As you go further and further into your journey, I think weight will become less and less important, giving way to body composition (body fat percentage).
I am sure that is true! It is true to me now! But no woman wants to be bigger than her BIG hubby, it just ain't right!

I was paranoid last week when I was not getting my protein in and not working out that I was losing muscle. I need to chill LOL!


Today, I am sure I have a bug, stomach something or other, headache, achey, very tired. Eats have been WAYYY better so I am eager to workout again. I will be glad when this season of the sickies is OVER! Some people don't eat when they are sick, I still eat, WTH? I am not throwing up tho, just very upset widdle tum tum. I am eternally grateful I am not losing my cookies (that I didn't eat of course!)

No sign of the rack anywhere . It should be coming this week.

Well I am still dragging. Later...
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Old 04-01-2008, 07:39 PM   #187 (permalink)
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Indeed - this is something that's going to have to last you the rest of your life. Thankfully, you have the rest of your life to figure it all out. Funny how that works.
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:16 AM   #188 (permalink)
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Today, I am sure I have a bug, stomach something or other, headache, achey, very tired. Eats have been WAYYY better so I am eager to workout again. I will be glad when this season of the sickies is OVER! Some people don't eat when they are sick, I still eat, WTH? I am not throwing up tho, just very upset widdle tum tum. I am eternally grateful I am not losing my cookies (that I didn't eat of course!)
Aww, feel better! I had a stomch bug BAD in the beginning of January. Out sick from work two days (and then I think it was a weekend...). I was worshiping the porcelain god and it was MISERABLE. I thought I was going to die, alone in my apartment. I mean, I'm 24, I live on my own, but when I finally got ahold of my mom after a morning of calling and calling her, I broke down in tears. It was really a bad week for me. I'd just puke and then lay on the bathroom floor for a while, go back to the couch and sleep, and no matter how I lay, it was really uncomfortable. And then I'd wake up and puke again...So, it could be worse! I hope hubby is taking care of you. (But, well, hubby is a hubby, so who knows?)

I hope you feel better soon! Hang in there.

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Indeed - this is something that's going to have to last you the rest of your life. Thankfully, you have the rest of your life to figure it all out. Funny how that works.
Yes! I used to think "for the rest of your life" was incredibly daunting...but now I think of all the wonderful recipes I have yet to learn, of all the ways I can improve my body over my lifetime, of all the struggles and insecurities and feeling-crappy days I'll be giving up by treating my body right.

For the rest of my life - that means, I won't always be cutting calories or having to bust my ass five, six days a week just to get what I want. For the rest of my life means that one day, I might be eating MORE than maintenance to gain more muscle, or I might just maintain for a while, lifting weight three times a week and spending the other days with my family and friends.

It's a good feeling, now.
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Old 04-02-2008, 05:42 AM   #189 (permalink)
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Yes! I used to think "for the rest of your life" was incredibly daunting...but now I think of all the wonderful recipes I have yet to learn, of all the ways I can improve my body over my lifetime, of all the struggles and insecurities and feeling-crappy days I'll be giving up by treating my body right.

For the rest of my life - that means, I won't always be cutting calories or having to bust my ass five, six days a week just to get what I want. For the rest of my life means that one day, I might be eating MORE than maintenance to gain more muscle, or I might just maintain for a while, lifting weight three times a week and spending the other days with my family and friends.

It's a good feeling, now.
Very well put! I keep reminding myself of this now as I'm going through this cutting phase - this is NOT forever (even though some days it feels like it will be!)
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Old 04-02-2008, 12:23 PM   #190 (permalink)
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Ahhh yes, the rest of my life, as I am getting older, seems to be getting shorter so let's get this show on the road!

Well I think I was fighting a bug and detoxing from Easter week. MAN do I have the headaches. Oh well. I am getting rest and logging my foods which are for the most part clean, meaning I ate some teriyaki chicken meatballs yum.

I am also cold turkey on the diet coke. I was only drinking one. Oh what the heck, I just want to feel better already. I am not going to figure this out LOL!

I am going to get this diet stuff down once and for all. It seems I can do one thing at a time, it is like rubbing your belly and patting your head. I had the workout down, then I mess with my diet and drop the workout, end up working out, mess up the diet.... aaaahhhhh!

Oh yeah the rest of my life...

Oh yes and my lowest weight number so far this year seems to be sticking finally. It has been teasing me for the last month it seems! I am going to see new numbers this week!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-02-2008, 01:53 PM   #191 (permalink)
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AOh well. I am getting rest and logging my foods which are for the most part clean, meaning I ate some teriyaki chicken meatballs yum.

I am also cold turkey on the diet coke. I was only drinking one. Oh what the heck, I just want to feel better already. I am not going to figure this out LOL!
I don't know that teriyaki chicken meatballs are inherently bad. I haven't made meatballs in a long time, but we never used breadcrumbs in them. Just used an egg to bind them and when making a lot, baked them in the oven. The teriyaki sauce.... well, it can be worked in as the only part not clean. I'm not sure what you're aiming for, but a little bit of sauce here and there isn't that bad.

I cut out the diet soft drinks a couple of months ago. Partly from the cost of them, but I noticed that they really cause me to retain water. There are still some around (just because I didn't finish them up) and took a few back in Feb, and I actually felt puffy for a couple of days.

Although I do take a single Crystal Light most days. I wasn't going to replace the box, but that darn Costco handed me a $5 off coupon today when I was going in.
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Old 04-02-2008, 07:16 PM   #192 (permalink)
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Oh I am going to Costco tomorrow! I get the chicken meatballs from Costco, I don't make them, they are AWESOME. Actually I didn't swear off Diet Coke, I just wanted to get in some more water.

Still wiped out tired with acid reflux going on. I hate this stuff. Anyway about 10 hours of sleep today. The only exercise I got was going up and down the basement stairs about 8 times today, hey it's something.

meal 1
4 eggwhites
1 egg
1/2 c oats dry
1 banana

meal 2
5 teriyaki chicken meatballs
2 c broccoli
1/2 c brown rice cooked

meal 3
6.14 oz lemon chicken
1/2 C brown rice cooked
1 green beans
251 g cantaloupe

meal 4
Pure protein PB bar

1531 cals
155.75g P
38g F
179g C

Some news. I had my DH do 7 site calipers. I even took his high numbers and did my own thigh again. Anyway it is about 36% with 159lbs lean. I don't know if that is right or not! I realize that being heavy it is tough, but I watched and Dang did he pinch to make sure it was fat and not muscle. I watched that he didn't pinch too tight owie!

I was about 40% when I started. That is good news to me. But I still take more stock in the measurements. At any rate the trend is DOWN!
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I realize that being heavy it is tough, but I watched and Dang did he pinch to make sure it was fat and not muscle. I watched that he didn't pinch too tight owie!

I was about 40% when I started. That is good news to me. But I still take more stock in the measurements. At any rate the trend is DOWN!
That's wonderful. A downward trend is always good.

I know what you mean though. I have a tough time with measurements and I'm never sure I'm getting a decent one. At the moment I really only take waist, bust and hips. I can't even recreate the same measurement on different days for the other ones.
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Old 04-02-2008, 08:14 PM   #194 (permalink)
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Hurray for down!
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Some news. I had my DH do 7 site calipers. I even took his high numbers and did my own thigh again. Anyway it is about 36% with 159lbs lean. I don't know if that is right or not! I realize that being heavy it is tough, but I watched and Dang did he pinch to make sure it was fat and not muscle. I watched that he didn't pinch too tight owie!

I was about 40% when I started. That is good news to me. But I still take more stock in the measurements. At any rate the trend is DOWN!
Ooh, yay! Great work! You're seeing your changes now. It's all momentum - you're like a snowball, rolling down hill, picking up success. If this is your war, I think you just won a battle.
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