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Old 02-24-2009, 04:17 AM   #1321 (permalink)
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hey tocoy, tom's question is a good one. sometimes my hunger cues are messed up though. I found the gowearfit gadget and tracking in the daily plate to be INVALUABLE over the past couple of months. I am down about 2 pounds per month on average since then, so exactly the kind of deficit I am proposing for you. in this kind of slow, gentle, patient, 250 cal per day on average deficit, you don't feel hungry often, you have plenty of calories to fuel your running workouts and your lifting workouts. and I really don't think you will have problems retaining plenty of lean muscle. you may lose some, it just happens sometimes when you cut calories. but by keeping the deficit low, feeding your body good, whole nutrition, I think you will be pleased at how the bodyfat turns out. the lack of lifting and nutrition are why runners lose lean mass. you won't have a problem with this.

I do wonder about your calorie level though. gowearfit data on you would be interesting because I am 150 pounds right now and about 25.7% body fat. on days when I just sit on my ass and move very little, I burn 1900. on days when I just lift, I burn 2100 ish. on days when I run, I burn 2500-2600 and on days when I do a short run and swim, I burn almost 3000. these numbers go up a lot when I add in NEAT. so I wouldn't be surprised if you are undereating, particularly when you add running back in.

oh, and I might suggest that you post your dilemma above in leigh's fat loss troubleshoot forum. she will probably also suggest weighing and measuring food and tracking. it is amazing how we think we are eating low calories but are really eating at maintenance. this was an eyeopener for me.
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Old 02-24-2009, 10:40 AM   #1322 (permalink)
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Thanks for the input. That is the really weird thing is I am not hungry at all. I am too busy now in the days to really focus on the hunger though as well. I do log my food on fitday and that is where the 1886 came from.

is gowearfit a website I can check out?
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Old 02-24-2009, 10:47 AM   #1323 (permalink)
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2/24/09

3 mile run in 31.25

Very slow and really out of shape is the best way to describe this run. I have to keep reminding myself that it will all come back soon and not rush things. But damn it's hard!!!
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Old 02-24-2009, 07:40 PM   #1324 (permalink)
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Old 02-24-2009, 08:19 PM   #1325 (permalink)
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yep, www.gowearfit.com

go over to the fat loss troubleshoot thread, and you can see all of our experiences with it.

keep at that running you will get it back
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Old 02-26-2009, 07:33 AM   #1326 (permalink)
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2-26-09

Warm up
1 mile in 10:00

Fat Loss 3 Workout 1A

Giant sets with no rest until end of round 4x10

Dead Lift
4x10 at 155 lbs

Explosive Push-Ups
4x10 at bw

BSS
4x10 at 15 lbs

Two Point Dumbbell Row
4x10 at 40 lbs

Giant set with no rest until end of round 2x20

Dead Lift off Box
2x20 at 115 lbs

Dumbbell Bench Press
2x20 at 25 lbs each hand

Walking Lunges ( did not do side bend - almost fell over)
2x20 at 15 lbs

Seated Cable Row
2x20 at 60 lbs

Straight set with rest 60 sec

Captain chair (subbed for Hanging leg raises. Way to tired for these)
2x10 at bw

Well the dreaded Fat Loss 3 is upon me. I give any of your big props for doing this workout. HOLY SHIT is about all I can say!!! I don't think I have done a workout where after almost an hour after my legs are still not functioning correctly.

Alywn must have designed this workout to get back at some evil client of his in hopes he would drop dead in the middle of the workout. My heart rate never came down from the moment I got off of the treadmill and still did not for about 15 min after the workout.

There was no way I could do the hanging leg raises as directed or the lunge with bend. After the box DL my legs and back were on fire. Bending to the side almost caused me to plead for the paramedics to peel me off the floor.

And all of this looks to be the easier workout. B looks even more like Hell.

AHHH I love NROL!!!
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:15 AM   #1327 (permalink)
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that last workout looked killer, man. glad to see you're feeling better.
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Old 02-26-2009, 09:45 AM   #1328 (permalink)
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LMAO at your description of NROL Fat Loss III. Way to power through it though.

I agree with Wendy RE calories, except you have not been tracking very strictly. Are you doing that now? If you are then cals are likely way low.
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Old 02-26-2009, 10:09 AM   #1329 (permalink)
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Sounds like another satisfied NROL customer. How's your appetite now?
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LMAO at your description of NROL Fat Loss III. Way to power through it though.

I agree with Wendy RE calories, except you have not been tracking very strictly. Are you doing that now? If you are then cals are likely way low.
I have been tracking all this week on fitday. You can check it out in my signature. I know its low, just hard time wise to get to eat these days. I felt the low calorie buzz today.

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I was starving yesterday. After the workout this morning. Not too bad. I think I am still blurry from the workout.
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Old 02-28-2009, 08:31 AM   #1331 (permalink)
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2-28-09

Weigh In

Weight = 178.8
Body Fat = 20.3%
Skeletal Muscle = 38.6%
BMI = 24.4
Visceral Fat = 7

Not sure what I was last week as I was afraid to weigh after my birthday celebration. I am pretty happy as I am sure I was probably close to 182 or so last weekend. Just need to make sure I stay active and keep my diet in check this weekend.
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Old 03-01-2009, 02:41 PM   #1332 (permalink)
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3/1/09

4 miles on treadmill in 39:30
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3/2/09

Warm up 1 mile in 10 min

Fat Loss 3 workout 1B 4x10 with no rest until end of giant set

Front Sqauts
4x10 at 95 lbs

Lat Pull downs underhand grip
4x10 at 80 lbs

Step Ups
4x10 at 15 lbs

Dumbbell shoulder push press
4x10 at 30 lbs

Giant set with no rest until end of set

Squats
2x20 at 115 lbs

Wide grip Lat pulldown
2x20 at 60 lbs

Step Ups
2x20 at bw

dumbbell shoulder press
2x20 at 20 lbs

Cardio

10 min on bike

Surprisingly not as hard as I thought. Still 20 step ups each leg sucks really bad. Need to add more to the lat pulldowns though.
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sorry I missed a bday it looks like, man. hope it was a good one
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sorry I missed a bday it looks like, man. hope it was a good one
Yes I had a great one. Got get into my stash of beer and had a great meal at Bone Fish Grill.

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Old 03-02-2009, 05:18 PM   #1336 (permalink)
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Sorry I am also late with the bday wishes. Hope it was a good one. Also that is a killer workout for Fat loss III. I hated the step ups for 20 reps!!! Keep up the good workouts! Have any races planed for the upcoming spring/summer???
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Sorry I am also late with the bday wishes. Hope it was a good one. Also that is a killer workout for Fat loss III. I hated the step ups for 20 reps!!! Keep up the good workouts! Have any races planed for the upcoming spring/summer???
Hey Barrett, Thanks for the well wishes and stopping by. I am really just trying to get back in to running. I took about 2 months off because of my job. So my plan going into this year has kind of been shot. I may run a half in April, but reality is probably nothing until late summer again. I only got up to 9 miles last week, so I am way out of running shape these days. Hope to go for a long run this week of.... 6 miles!!! I miss it, but I think the time off was needed as well.
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Ditto on the birthday wishes... Been having some pc problems of late so that's been an issue.
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Ditto on the birthday wishes... Been having some pc problems of late so that's been an issue.
No problem. Thank you. That is why I got my new Macbook Pro. This computer rocks!
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Old 03-03-2009, 03:48 PM   #1340 (permalink)
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Looks like we all (except you) missed the b-day! Good you did not gain too much!! Happy belated.
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3/3/09

Tempo run
3 miles.. Not sure the time as the treadmill was pissing me off and shut off after 20 min.

Did 4 1/2 mile at 8:00 mile a min pace. with recovery jogs.
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Looks like we all (except you) missed the b-day! Good you did not gain too much!! Happy belated.
Thanks Karla,

Its all good, just another year older, but I can still beat any of my employees in a 5k!!!
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Old 03-05-2009, 07:43 AM   #1343 (permalink)
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3/5/09


Warm up 1 mile

Fat Loss 3 Workout 2A Giant sets with no rest until end

Dead Lifts
4x10 at 155 lbs

Explosive Push Ups
4x10 at bw

BSS
4x10 at 15 lbs

Two Point Row (dumbbell)
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Giant sets with no rest until end

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2x20 at 115 lbs

Dumbbell Bench Press
2x20 at 25 lbs

Walking Lunges with Side Bend
2x20 at 15 lbs

Wide Grip Cable Row
2x20 at 60 lbs

Straight Set with Rest

Hanging leg Raises
2x10 at BW


Another barftastic workout brought to you by Satan!!
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tcoy. I'm so far behind and didn't even wish you a happy birthday! So here I am late: HAPPY BIRTHDAY! You'll figure out the combination that's right for you now that you're getting your goals more solidified.
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Thanks Pauline, Things are getting better to get in to a new routine.

Weight Report

Weight - 178.6 (-.2)
Body fat - 19.5%
Muscle - 38.7
BMI - 24.2

Really no change this week. A little less weight and just a bit more muscle. I ate kind of crappy towards the end of the week. So I will take a little loss and little gain on the muscle. I am not feeling so cow like anymore and can start seeing my 2 pack again. LOL
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3/7/09

5 mile run in 50:15

A hot windy run, but it felt good to get outside and run in the park. I think I went out too fast and was pretty beat by mile 4. My usual routine though.
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3-10-09

Warm Up 1 mile in 10:00am


Fat Loss 3 Workout 2B

Front Squats
4x10 at 95 lbs

Underhand lat pulldowns
4x10 at 80 lbs

Step Ups
4x10 at 15 lbs

Dumbbell Push Press
4x10 at 30 lbs

Giant set no rest until end of round

Squats
2x20 at 115 lbs

Wide Grip Lat Pulldown
2x20 at 60 lbs

Step Ups
2x20 at BW

Dumbbell Shoulder Press
2x20 at 20 lbs

Straight Set

Swiss Ball Crunches
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oooooh that 20 rep workout is killer... Do most of your employees run too? How cool.
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oooooh that 20 rep workout is killer... Do most of your employees run too? How cool.
Yeah the 20 reps is tough specially after the 40 reps before! 80 reps x 8 exercises is a lot of work, but its getting easier.

Some of the guys here run, not much, but a few. Even though I am at least 12-15 years older then them, I can still beat em.
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3/12/09

Fat Loss 3 Workout 3A

Giant set no rest until end

Dead Lifts
4x10 at 155 lbs

explosive push ups
4x10 at bw

BSS
4x10 at 15 lbs

One point dumbbell row
4x10 at 40 lbs

Giant set with no rest until end

Box Dead Lifts
2x20 at 115 lbs

Dumbbell Bench Press
2x20 at 25 lbs

Walking Lunges with side bend
2x20 at 15 lbs

Seated Cable Row
2x20 at 60 lbs

Straight Set with 60 sec rest

Hanging leg raises
2x10 at BW

Cardio

1 mile

This workout is getting easier. One more B workout and I am half way done with Fat Loss 3. All the treadmills were being used at the start of my workout, so I had to put the run in after. THAT SUCKED. My legs were like jello, but made it through.
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