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12-12-2007, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by stingo
What are you playing on your guitar? Sor? Piazzola?
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Ah... You know of Sor so you must also know of Classical Guitar. Right now I am working on pieces that span the decades....
In the Baroque era I am studying the Cello Suite no. 1 from J.S. Bach. I have all but the Corrante and Gigue down for performance.
Romantic era, I study works mostly by Tarrega. I am working up Capricho Arabe right now and have Lagrima and Adelita up to performance level.
For the Classical period I have selected a work by Gulliani (Sor's buddy) I have memorized and am working up the Sonata Allegro from his Op15. This piece takes me 14 minutes to play through and is over 6 pages of music. There are 2 more pieces in this work.
I currently perform a slew of Italian Renascence pieces from Chilisote's collection. (a 20th century musicologist)
I have a collection of Pavannas from Early Baroque, Renascence that I perform.
Oh yeah... I also do the Bmin study from Sor.
http://www.kfisherx.com/Guitar/MyVid.../BminOct07.wmv
and a bunch of other smaller works... I kind of like this hobby.... 
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12-12-2007, 04:52 PM
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Cheesy Rack Guy Wannabe
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Nice - though I'd think it'd be the Lute Suites you'd be studying (unless they're transcriptions of the Cello Suites that is). You've a good cross section of the periods, though I'm surprised Dowland's not listed (personal favorite there). Great video too by the way.
I'm revisiting the piano - have taken lessons a long time but practicing hasn't been my strong suit. My current project is also Bach - the first Two Part Invention (the C Major) - I'm very close with it, but not quite. And more seasonally, Christmastime is Here is coming along quite nicely. The Hanon book of exercises I bought should help with both as an improvement in technique would be most welcome.
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12-12-2007, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by kfisherx
I thought about you last night. I was doing burpies and push ups in my hotel room. 
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See, when you travel you have to make due with what you've got. Pretty soon you'll be bringing your jump rope on the road too. 
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12-12-2007, 11:30 PM
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Karla
Great work. Your log and training have taken on a life of their own!! Onward and upward.
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12-13-2007, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by stingo
Nice - though I'd think it'd be the Lute Suites you'd be studying (unless they're transcriptions of the Cello Suites that is). You've a good cross section of the periods, though I'm surprised Dowland's not listed (personal favorite there)....
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 Of course the Cello suite is transcribed for the guitar. And if I dare say I think it sounds better on the guitar too. I like Dowland okay but am more of a baroque person so I will probably not play Dowland until I've a few more years of study. I haven't been at the music thing for quite 5 years so with time I will hit the really good ones.
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12-13-2007, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by UpNorth
What a great log! You're doing some great stuff.
I can sympathize. I suffered a bad hamstring pull ending my high school sprinting career. It was literally years before I felt complete confidence to go all out in a sprint without re-injuring that hamstring. It sounds like you are on the right path though so you'll get there before you know it.
That's just awesome! You're colleagues will only think you're nuts until you end up in the best shape of your life. Then they'll just be jealous 
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My colleagues are definately watching me with green eyes. My friends are all starting to watch what they eat and increase their protein. The only thing lacking is all the exercise and the really strict diet that I do.
Thanks for dropping into this log and also for the encouragement on the hamstring... Wow... Years?????  I am not prepared to hold back for years. That will kill me. I was running on the Nike Campus here recently and saw a guy running the other way. His t-shirt was Nike but it said, "Slow Sucks" I SO want to buy one of those.
I am sort of bummed out right now about this injury. It kicked my butt again today.  I am going to go get massaged in the hot tub and then ice the hell out of it.
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12-13-2007, 12:40 AM
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A pretty awful workout in the gym.....
Tonight I boarded a plane in San Jose and flew back home to Portland. I did a one day whirlwind trip down there to do a presentation. My hamstring sort of hurt on this plane ride and I knew I had to work it and stretch it a bit. So I started to get myself up for going for a little jog at the gym on the way home.
I got to the gym at almost 10:00PM. I am somewhat of a night person so I figure it wouldn't matter. I dress down and do some light warm ups. I did a couple of ab workouts and stretches and my hamstring therapy exercises. I then started a nice slow 35 min jog on the treadmill. I had been looking forward to this for the past 2 days. About 1/2 way into the run my hamstring started to pull. I slowed down and raised the incline thinking I might be able to get a good workout in that way. Nope.... Too much pulling. It wasn't pain mind you but I know now that if there is even a bit of pulling that probably is bad. So I backed off and walked and got bummed out.
I still did 2 miles and then went over to the weights. I did a few more ab exercises (hanging leg lifts 3x15) and incline sit ups (3x15). I then went to the pull up bar and gave myself a 50 pound assist. I could only pull out 3x3 for that one. Finally I did some leg presses 3x15 at 90 pounds.
Thath was pretty much all I could handle. I am such as wussy....
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12-13-2007, 12:56 AM
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We all have bad workouts. That workout was still a lot more than most people can even do.
It sucks to be injured (shoulder, here).
I'm not sure when and where your injury started, but some quad dominance could be playing a part here. I don't know why, but it's said that many women are quad dominant and have weaker and tighter hamstrings, leading to an imbalance that could cause all sorts of issues.
I'm not qualified to tell you how to determine if this is even an issue. But, at least make sure (once the strain has healed) that your program includes plenty of hip extension exercises for the posterior chain. RDLs, pullthroughs, and glute ham raises, for instance.
When you get back into sprinting again, start with hill sprints. The angle, when sprinting up a hill, makes the sprint a lot safer for the hamstrings.
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12-13-2007, 01:32 AM
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Thanks Roland. I am trying to be positive but this has been going on for nearly a year. I injured it (they say) from overuse. It started as just a slight little blip on my radar. Then it got worse and it pissed me off so I ran harder (Marine remember) I did this for 7 months until it got so bad that I could hardly walk. My injured leg was only a fraction of the side of my healthy leg due to athrophy. 5 months of Physical Therapy later and the therapists says I am at 90%. Now I am in the hands of a strength trainer to help me figure out how to stay strong and not keep injuring myself. But still I do...
My main problem is that I do not feel pain like normal people. At least that is what the Therapist says and my trainer agrees. My trainer says that is why I am not muscle sore. Since I cannot feel pain I have nothing to tell me that I am on the edge of injury. By the time I am feeling pain a strain has already occured.
You are 100% correct in the stronger quad thing. When I say that I am doing my hamstring PT exercises, it consists of hip extensions, abductors and glut ham raises. I find these very boring.... I only do them 1-2 times a week and I am supposed to do them 3 times. I do them pretty regularly when I have a bit of pain but as soon as I feel good again I just run and lift and the fun stuff.
I know.... I am an idiot....
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12-13-2007, 07:38 AM
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Cheesy Rack Guy Wannabe
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Originally Posted by kfisherx
 Of course the Cello suite is transcribed for the guitar. And if I dare say I think it sounds better on the guitar too. I like Dowland okay but am more of a baroque person so I will probably not play Dowland until I've a few more years of study. I haven't been at the music thing for quite 5 years so with time I will hit the really good ones.
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What I meant was I can't quite remember if the Lute Suites (BWV 995-998) were transcriptions of the Cello Suites (BWV 1001-1006), or if they're altogether different compositions, composed for the lute. I think the latter, but not 100% confident that's the case. (Yes, it's been a while since I've listened to the Lute Suites, though I just picked up a great version of the Cello Suites played by Ralph Kirschbaum.)
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12-13-2007, 08:07 AM
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Be careful there. If you end up with land these beautiful creatures end up multiplying somehow. I swear I started with just one.  Actually, I did eventing for a little while with my Arab and my TB but once I started the Classial Guitar I had to give up riding and training. Either that or my day job.... There just were not enough hours in the day. My crew of 11 equines are all rescues and each one has a very special story and personality. Several of them are in their 30s. I do have a few youn'uns though. They are amazing creatures and my goal is to keep the farm until the last one dies. After that I will likely move into my condo in the city.
Land out here when I bought this farm was really reasonable. I bought in 1996 and the entire piece with home cost 215,000 US dollars. The 40-acre farm next to me just sold for almost 700K so I don't think it is that reasonable anymore. Even so I think it is still cheaper here than on the East coast.
Yes, I do much of that stuff every day. At least 30 minutes of it. You would think with all that, that I would not need to go to the gym or that I might have less than 31% body fat.  
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Precisely the point!  We'd take in each and every one if we could. Careing for rescues and giving them a better life than they once had is very noble, indeed! Thank you for doing that.
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12-13-2007, 08:54 AM
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Thanks Roland. I am trying to be positive but this has been going on for nearly a year. I injured it (they say) from overuse. It started as just a slight little blip on my radar. Then it got worse and it pissed me off so I ran harder (Marine remember) I did this for 7 months until it got so bad that I could hardly walk. My injured leg was only a fraction of the side of my healthy leg due to athrophy. 5 months of Physical Therapy later and the therapists says I am at 90%. Now I am in the hands of a strength trainer to help me figure out how to stay strong and not keep injuring myself. But still I do...
My main problem is that I do not feel pain like normal people. At least that is what the Therapist says and my trainer agrees. My trainer says that is why I am not muscle sore. Since I cannot feel pain I have nothing to tell me that I am on the edge of injury. By the time I am feeling pain a strain has already occured.
You are 100% correct in the stronger quad thing. When I say that I am doing my hamstring PT exercises, it consists of hip extensions, abductors and glut ham raises. I find these very boring.... I only do them 1-2 times a week and I am supposed to do them 3 times. I do them pretty regularly when I have a bit of pain but as soon as I feel good again I just run and lift and the fun stuff.
I know.... I am an idiot....
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You don't feel pain? That's weird. Like if I pinch you, it won't hurt? Or, is it just that you have a high threshold?
Are you seeing a therapist who deals with athletes? Maybe the exercises are too basic (e.g., aimed at "normal" people). There are lots of non-boring lifts to do (unless these are light rehab things. But GHRs aren't really very light, huh?).
It's not the same as a hands on, but if you post in the injury sub-forum, there are some sports minded Docs and PTs that come around to dole out solid advice. Somewhere in there, there's a questionnaire to fill out to give all the background info that they want to see. You might check it out.
Oh, I see that you travel for work some. If you ever stop in Indianapolis, get an appt with Bill Hartman. He's a genius. The Muscle Whisperer.
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12-13-2007, 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Lost Dog
You don't feel pain? That's weird. Like if I pinch you, it won't hurt? Or, is it just that you have a high threshold?
Are you seeing a therapist who deals with athletes? Maybe the exercises are too basic (e.g., aimed at "normal" people). There are lots of non-boring lifts to do (unless these are light rehab things. But GHRs aren't really very light, huh?).
It's not the same as a hands on, but if you post in the injury sub-forum, there are some sports minded Docs and PTs that come around to dole out solid advice. Somewhere in there, there's a questionnaire to fill out to give all the background info that they want to see. You might check it out.
Oh, I see that you travel for work some. If you ever stop in Indianapolis, get an appt with Bill Hartman. He's a genius. The Muscle Whisperer.
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Roland.... I think it is the fact that I have a high threshold. I certainly do feel it if someone pinches me but it is the case that you have to draw blood before I complain about it.
I don't know what a GHR is. I have to look that one up to respond. But with that I will share with you about my PT. He does deal with athletes but mostly golfers and baseball players. He doesn't know a thing about runners. I had no clue when I went in there anything about Physical Therapy nor did I have a clue how badly I was hurt. If I had any clue at all I would have insisted on seeing a Therapist who specialized in runners.
I thought that I would go in and get some exercises to do at home and that would be that. Instead it took 5 months of bi-weekly appointments for my injured leg to have the same (within 90%) measurements as my non-injured leg. That whole while he had to hold me down and keep me from running and doing too much cardio work. I felt like he was babying me and that we were going too slowly. We fought a lot.
When I finally measured within 90% with my injured leg I announced to him that I was getting a personal trainer and that I would use this program to continue my rehab. The Physical Therapist said I could do that but he wanted to talk to the Trainer. So I connected the two. I did not hear the conversation but the Trainer told me that he was told I was that rare pateint who you never had to push rather you had to hold back so she doesn't hurt herself. So my trainer is being careful now too.  He thinks I need to back off the hamstring injury and give myself room to heal. He keeps holding me back too. I am TIRED of giving this room to heal and I want to work the bloody thing. It is ridiculous that I cannot run on it after all this time. (sigh...)
Who is this Bob Hartman? Is this a person who is a Physical Therapist or is he very well versed in Rehab of these sorts of injuries? I would be happy to fly wherever to have a consult with anyone who can help me with this. I have a daughter in Indy so I could easily justify that flight.
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12-13-2007, 06:48 PM
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Session no. 5
Today was ab day with the trainer. At least we started with ab workouts. The first exercise was on one of those half ball things. I had to sit on it and extend my arms and legs all the way out and lay back and then come together and touch my shoes. I did this 20 times the first time. Then he had me to V-ups. They are like situps but you have to move your legs in the air too and the hands and legs meet in the middle up in the sky. I alternated these two exercieses and did 1x20, 2x15 on the first one and 3x15 on the second one. I had some really crappy form going on for many of these so I don't know how many of those really count. The good news on this is that when I first started with this guy 3 weeks ago I could not do even 1 v-up.
After the ab work I did mountain climbers until forever. I had to use the 1/2 ball upside down to hang onto. I did 3x40 of these.
Then he grabbed a medicine ball and we went to the long deck and I did lunges all the way across and back while holding out that medicine ball and twisting my torso. Once I completed that he had me run the stairs (1 flight) up and down 5 times doing doubles on the up. Once that was done I went back to the lunges all the way up and down the floor. When I was done he looked at the stairs again and I got smart with him and commented that I would only do it if I could carry my friend (the medicine ball) with me. He replied that I could do it but I had to hold it up over my head. I laughed and put it down on the table but alas he was serious. I had to go up and down those stairs while holding the medicine ball above my head and if I started to let it down even a little he was all over me. So I did those 2 more times and 2 more lunges back and forth. He told me that it is not a very wise thing to give him those sorts of ideas. I told him that I realize this but am a Marine so will likely never stop being a smart ass.  I can feel my shoulders right now man.
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