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Old 06-07-2008, 11:15 AM   #1621 (permalink)
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They are really fun, but my forearm hurts. I have a huge lump from a bad snatch.
Yeah you gotta watch out for bad snatch. It'll do a number on ya in a hurry.

Nice work on the program you put together for yourself too. My trainer gave me goblet squats to do this morning in roughly that rep range (lower weight though) and I was dying by the time I was told to stop.
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I wrote it out on the back of JP's intro letter while I was on the plane.

Let's come up with a couple of GPP routines that we can agree on using to challenge each other. Some of the II ones are good as is, but some use things I don't have.
Sounds good. Let me get a new, more permanent log started up, then we can look ahead and see where we can match up GPP or bastardized Warrior Workouts and go from there. Preferably they'll be something easy to track--personally, if I do a timed set of anything, I tend to lose count.
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I prefer reps for time. 100 MB Slams for time, or 5 circuits of snatches, burpees, pushups, etc for time.

On the forum over there, those guys do 5 rounds or 30s burpees, 90s lunges, 30 seconds pushups, 60 jumping jacks, etc. 5 rounds. Talk about annoying. How would you keep that straight? You don't. So I don't try.

Max reps in a time is okay, it just has to be one thing or counting rounds of things with the same reps only.

You good with those?
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A1, Sandbag Shoulders, 115lbs, 10/10/10
A2, Powerovers, 10/8/8

B1, Ab Wheel Rollouts, 10/10/10
B2, Two Point Row/Elbow Out, 80lbs, 8/8/8 (each side)

C1, MB Pushups w/feet on crate, 12/10/8 (very shaky at the end)
C2, Single DB OH Reverse Lunge, 25lbs, 10/10/10 (each side)

D, MB Slams for time, 100 slams, 3:29. -- suckage

I'm seriously deconditioned compared to my last MB Slams test (February 2nd). It took me 40s longer and I was dying this time. I could tell my time was sucking so I kept going and going, but it was with a lot less oomph than ever before.

I wish I knew how to whip up a little database that would help me keep track of all my lifts over time. I'd love to sort by MB Slams, deadlifts, tricep kickbacks, etc. and generate a report of my "progress."

Powerovers need to be fewer reps and more sets. Rep 6-10 weren't what they should be, in retrospect. Power was the goal. Oops.
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I prefer reps for time. 100 MB Slams for time, or 5 circuits of snatches, burpees, pushups, etc for time.

On the forum over there, those guys do 5 rounds or 30s burpees, 90s lunges, 30 seconds pushups, 60 jumping jacks, etc. 5 rounds. Talk about annoying. How would you keep that straight? You don't. So I don't try.

Max reps in a time is okay, it just has to be one thing or counting rounds of things with the same reps only.

You good with those?
Yeah, that's cool, much easier than trying to keep count of reps in a given time period. Composing the initial post as we speak.
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With a bit of planning you could probably put something together into Access I'd think, or Excel. But I'm not sure that numbers tell the story, so much as the qualitative data would.
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I wish I knew how to whip up a little database that would help me keep track of all my lifts over time. I'd love to sort by MB Slams, deadlifts, tricep kickbacks, etc. and generate a report of my "progress."
Not to promise vapourware features, but that's actually on the list of things I'm going to add to werkit.com.

First I gotta figure out how to write code about a billion times faster.
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Yeah, that's cool, much easier than trying to keep count of reps in a given time period. Composing the initial post as we speak.
I'll flip through the book later and see what's what with the ones Ross has there.


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Not to promise vapourware features, but that's actually on the list of things I'm going to add to werkit.com.

First I gotta figure out how to write code about a billion times faster.
I know I can do it in Access if I try. It's just a PITA to learn it all over again. Once, I used to do relational database administration and management. I know I have it in me, but when I finally figured out that all I needed was Excel for my personal use, all that knowledge left me.

The thing is that it would be neat to have. Not necessary at all. Somehow I doubt it will help make me stronger or hawter.


In other news, I'm attemptiing to increase my NEEE.

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Say it with me, neee

NEEE stands for Non-Exercise Energy Expenditure

Which means what you do outside of your workout to burn calories.

It really could be anything, it could be mowing the lawn, it could
be doing intense yard work. Anything that raises your metabolism
and makes you burn more calories.

It doesn't have to be anything long either. For me it's jumping rope
like Sly in Rocky.

I do it for about 4 or 5 minutes, am covered in sweat and have
burned probably another 200-300 calories on top of my workout.

Not bad right?
That's some serious jumpropin'
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With a bit of planning you could probably put something together into Access I'd think, or Excel. But I'm not sure that numbers tell the story, so much as the qualitative data would.
Gawd I hate when people suggest excel for crap that isn't spreadsheetin.
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Please tell me that you are not seriously reading anything that idiot has to say?!
Ummm ... and I believe the term is actually NEAT!!
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Please tell me that you are not seriously reading anything that idiot has to say?!
Ummm ... and I believe the term is actually NEAT!!
It's like Get Smart, but with training and nutrition.

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So Jimmy jumps rope for five minutes until he's covered in sweat, but it's "non-exercise"? And he burns 300 calories in five minutes?

Impressive. If he jumped for an hour he'd just disappear.
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I'm torn about logging my food. I know how much to eat, I just have to do it. When I do log on fitday, I find myself ready to scream at the end of the day. I might just post the food in my log so I can go back and check if I need to. If there was a blackberry tool that didn't require the super slow internet, I'd consider it. Calorieking was great on my Palm, but you can't look back...
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Sometimes, when I am jumping rope, I jump sooo fast that I cut the grass at the same time!!
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Impressive. If he jumped for an hour he'd just disappear.
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I'm torn about logging my food. I know how much to eat, I just have to do it. When I do log on fitday, I find myself ready to scream at the end of the day. I might just post the food in my log so I can go back and check if I need to. If there was a blackberry tool that didn't require the super slow internet, I'd consider it. Calorieking was great on my Palm, but you can't look back...
I just write it in my log. The various softwares just irritate the crap out of me. I know what I eat, I write it down, it does the duty if keeping me from sneaking a snickers and I have something I can look back on.

Or, you could just do what we do for Otto. Make X calorie meals. Eat Y of them a day. period. you only have to count to 5 or 6.
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Along the lines of the thread you started asking about detailed logs, is this something you just want to do, or are you finding your diet hindering your training goals (read: lookin' good nekid, IIRC)? I tend to log when I feel like my diet is a long-term problem, but I can usually tell within a week if I need to tweak the macronutrient numbers or overall calories.
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First I gotta figure out how to write code about a billion times faster.
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Quick, eat some calorie-free almonds before you loooz teh muselz.
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I just write it in my log. The various softwares just irritate the crap out of me. I know what I eat, I write it down, it does the duty if keeping me from sneaking a snickers and I have something I can look back on.

Or, you could just do what we do for Otto. Make X calorie meals. Eat Y of them a day. period. you only have to count to 5 or 6.
That's the thing. I get tired of spending the annoying fitday time, only to find out that my estiguess was pretty accurate. BUT, I did so well when I was doing that with Calorieking. I doubt it was the tracking of cals and macros though. Probably was the logging, encouraging me to be honest with myself.


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Along the lines of the thread you started asking about detailed logs, is this something you just want to do, or are you finding your diet hindering your training goals (read: lookin' good nekid, IIRC)? I tend to log when I feel like my diet is a long-term problem, but I can usually tell within a week if I need to tweak the macronutrient numbers or overall calories.
It's to keep me on track and simply make me aware that I don't want to deviate from plan.

If I can keep to the calorie limits I set, I don't think the macros matter much. They do at some threshold. I think enough P is important to get, then eat whatever makes you happy with the other two macros (with maybe a 20% F minimum) until cals are satisfied.


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Jimmy gonna kill me. I ate some super hi gi popcorn, last night. A whole bag, too. That's 240 calories of total insulin surge!
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Probably was the logging, encouraging me to be honest with myself.
Bingo. That's been my experience as well. After awhile, I learn to eyeball it again... until the next time...

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I like to think Alan believes me.

Nah. He's been at this crap longer than my five years.

But, in my five years of losing weight and keeping it off:

I've lost a lot of weight and gotten more muscular on low F, high C, and moderate P.

I've lost a lot of weight and gotten more muscular on moderate F, moderate C, and moderate P.

I've lost a decent amount of weight (I didn't have as much fat by then) and gotten more muscular on high F, low C, and moderate P.

I've had many phases in between, too. The only thing that really mattered seemed to be the calories. Of course satiety, hormone levels, the protein sweats, etc. are all effected by the macros.

And, if your deficit is huge, the macros probably matter more, merely because you need to have certain minimums when you're starving yourself to that degree. And, short term starving yourself vs long term starving yourself effects them, too.
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I've come around to Leigh's way of thinking on this ... if you track obsessively for a short time to get the fat off, then you can be done with it to just maintain. I weigh EVERYTHING that I eat ... even if it is going off plan or over calories.
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The Catholic (read: guilt-ridden) approach to nutrition?
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