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Old 10-27-2009, 12:00 PM   #4021 (permalink)
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Congrats on that! It is great that you have tracked your progress well enough to know where you were physically during your journey.

I didn't realize that your BMI is so low right now, no wonder losing that 5 or so pounds is so tough for you. I am sure your body wants to hang on to every precious fuel cell. lol

Actually, the other day, when I entered my new low weight (151), Fitday put me at under 30% BMI for the first time (like 29.something percent). It was a very happy moment for me . . although I didn't post it in my log cause the number is still ridiculously high

I could still survive a short famine.
That's great progress! It just matters that you're doing it and making progress to your goal.

...and I don't think my bmi is the issue. I think it's the emotional eating.


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Happy 6th anniversary of a healthy BMI.
FWIW, a BMI of 25 is supposed to give the best survival rate (either because of higher bf% or just more LBM?)

Katydid: BMI is *not* a percentage, it's a number : divide weight (kg) by the quadrate (?) of your length in metres & then you get your BMI. Works well for most average persons who aren't overly muscular.

As much as people scoff on it, it's a pretty good reference for most average peepz.
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Having a BMI of 25 does nothing, though. In the studies that they did, people who averaged 25 had the best survival rates. Probably because of what they do in life to end up at a 25.

If you do all the same things and have a 26 or 24, I think you have the same survival rate. In fact, I'll bet that 27s are even better, given the same healthy eating and exercise habits.
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But in reality, there aren't all that many people who can combine very healthy eating & exercising habits with a BMI of 27. The vast majority will end up with that number (27) due to extra fat mass, because of unhealthy eating habits.

That's an interesting question though.. suppose someone eats healthily & exercises enough and have a BMI of 27, would it matter if those 2 extra points came from fat or muscle?
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Having a BMI of 25 does nothing, though. In the studies that they did, people who averaged 25 had the best survival rates. Probably because of what they do in life to end up at a 25.

If you do all the same things and have a 26 or 24, I think you have the same survival rate. In fact, I'll bet that 27s are even better, given the same healthy eating and exercise habits.

Actually, a Canadian study found:

"So, according to the authors' findings, compared to ‘normal’ BMIs, ‘overweight’ (BMI 25-<30) and ‘obese’ (BMI 30 up to 35, which includes about 80% of all obese people) are associated with a 25% to 12% lower risk of dying. And the risks associated with the ‘morbidly obese’ (BMIs 35+) are statistically the same as those with ‘normal’ BMIs."

That's not how it was reported, but it appears that carrying some extra weight (BMI 25-35) can actually be beneficial to life expectancy. And the opposite when looking at lower BMIs.

"Risks rose steadily with BMIs under 22.5 (18% higher risk with BMIs 20-<22.5; 23% higher risk associated with BMIs 18.5-<20; and 89% higher mortality associated with BMIs under 18.5), yet there are no governments and industries devoted to massive public campaigns against slenderness."

Both quotes from: http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/...nt-excuse.html

Interesting point, that the overweight/obese are more likely to eat higher number of servings of fruits/veggies (makes sense as they are taking in more calories overall). Media spin makes being overweight 'life threatening' which it just doesn't appear to be. None of the information makes me want to stop losing weight, but it does kind of make you wonder why the 'obesity crisis' is, well, a crisis.

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What did those frail people die of, I wonder? Why so frail in the first place? Were they malnourished, druggies, alcoholics, already sick, etc.?
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What did those frail people die of, I wonder? Why so frail in the first place? Were they malnourished, druggies, alcoholics, already sick, etc.?
In my own personal experience, the healthiest people I have known are people that consume plenty of calories (including fats, etc), have a basic diet, are a little overweight but are very active.

I'm talking about all the country people that cook their food rather than microwaving it and spend all day working the land, their gardens etc. Usually they are a little 'medically' overweight, but you can tell it's really healthy for them, and it never really fluctuates.

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I remember a few years back, the church had an Octoberfest and a bunch of folks got together to help put it together (it was like a mini carnival). The work consisted of a lot of mowing, raking, and then building displays.

We had some really built up boys in the church and the older people absolutely worked them into the ground. The kids tried hard, but it was just that they weren't used to physical labor like that. The raking was particularly hard for some reason. They were so sore and stiff that their football coach complained about it at practice the next day and got upset.

It was just the difference between isolated movements and real life situations. No doubt the older people couldn't have lifted the weight the kids did, but overall they were able to do more 'practical' labor.
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Old 10-28-2009, 12:14 PM   #4030 (permalink)
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I know, that's kind of the point. The study followed ~12000 people over 12 years, during which ~1900 died. There is little information past that point, but it was done by Statistics Canada (gov't organization) so I'll assume no bias. What is interesting, is that the news agencies reported some of it (ie. saying that being slightly overweight had no negative connotations regarding death rates) but not as the study showed. And yes, there should have been some investigation done on the higher death rates among the underweight.
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My MIL would say that you don't want to be skinny because whenever you do get sick and go into the hospital you'll have nothing to keep you going when you can't eat.
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Yep.. so very true. Both on what Anne wrote re the under-reporting of how being overweight doesn't really make you be totally unhealthy as long as your eating & moving habits are good.
Same for what Katy wrote about how old country folks are so much more used to moderately hard physical labour for hours on end as opposed to the young kids who can go faster/harder for a short while but then peter out quickly.
My dad was one of those country folks that could work for long hours and not get tired. My dear brother not so much .. but he's got similar health issues like mine.

Makes me rethink once again if I realllly want to go for 58kg as a goal weight , a BMI of 23 as opposed to what always was my goal wt (63kg or BMI of 25). I'm half way in between and really enjoy this particular weight. No wonder I've more or less been maintaining all year long .

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This is very true! Look at my poor mom....all of 80 lbs. What happens if she ends up in the hospital or falls? She dies, that's what.

And, Roland, in my mom's case, she was always on the smaller side. The onset of dementia/alzheimer's definitely made a profound difference in her appetite and/or her appetite sensors. She's also been diagnosed with "frailty", and so it becomes even more of an issue:

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I didn't say I was actually going to get to them, but at least it jogged my memory. That counts as exercise, right?
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Hai! Happy belated anniversary...
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Also (little side story coming) as to the frailness...my grandmother is 93 (just this past tuesday) and if you ask her to grab your hand as hard as she can, you're in trouble...she is so strong!!! She never had a car, lived in the bronx all her life, and walks EVERYWHERE. Ok...she takes the bus sometimes, but she still grocery shops by herself, makes all her food, and does all her daily chores. She amazes me...I really feel the secret to her longevity, is her strength...both mental and physical...cause she's got all her marbles too!

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Swings, 24kg - 100

Clean and Jerk, 24kg - 10/10/10 - per side

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More prying/bodyweight squats - very tight in the hips, lately, so the before and after was dramatically different.

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Seriously!!! Awesome..I think I'd fall down.
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That's what you can call a very good work capacity!
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Backyard training. Take advantage of the sun when you can.

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Long Cycle w/16s. 5 sets of 2 minutes, 30s rest in between. Gymboss set at :30 and 2:00 for 5.

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Double Press, 16kg - 15/12

Sandbag Squats, 85lbs - 10/10/10 - concentrating on going as low as possible, pausing at the bottom to sink in

Windmills (each side), bw - 10/10, 8kg - 5/5 (some serious glute lock with the 8s)

This workout was brutal. Shaking at the end.
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And another beautiful fall day. Nice weather is so rare in S. Cal, better use it while you can.

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Single Press (each side), 24kg - 5/4/4 *
Squat (deep as possible), 24kg - 5/5/5

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DB Row (each side), 100lbs - 5/5/5
Deck Squat/Roll up w/16kg - 7/5/5

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Are you doing that swing challenge I saw Keith post up the other day?

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(Sorry if you've mentioned it before--I tend to scan.)
Yep. I did 200 yesterday during my workout, so that no problem. This morning, before work, I did today's 200 swings.

double kb swings, 16kgs -- 100/50/50

I barely made it to 100, so took it easy on rounds 2 and 3.
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Warmup/Mobitity

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Snatch, 16kg, 5/5/5/5 - each side

Long Cycle, two 16kg, 2 minutes on, 30 rest, five rounds - I got in 100 reps before dying

Press, 16kg - 13/12
Front Squat, two 16kg, 11/10

200 swings with a 24kg, alternating hands ever 20 reps, no rest before dying

Semi-Gross Alert -- I did this on a pergo floor. I have kettlebells with the rubber ring on the bottom. There was so much sweat that it suction cupped itself to the ground and was impossible to pull off. I had to lift an edge of the ring with a finger to get it off the ground.
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