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Old 08-15-2007, 05:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Back to Basics!. . . .(a return to Rippetoe)

Funny how people end up back where they started. . . to make a long story short I was doing the basic Starting Strength routine found on BB.com for a while and was making some good progress. Some poor planning, effort towards recovery on my part made me crash pretty hard. So I tried some different routines, and while I did gain some "weight" I don't really think I was getting stronger. . . at least not at the pace I was doing SS.

Just last week I actually ordered both Starting Strength and Practical Programming by Rippetoe and Kilgore. I haven't had time to sit down and read the whole books, but they point out a lot of things that I could have done differently. Enough typing. . . . I'm back!

*I started on Monday, but I'll simply start my log from today's session.

Starting Strength: Workout B

A) Squat: 165x 5/5/5


B) Press: 85x 5/5/5


C) Chins (done to failure): BWx 7/7/6


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* this was all good, I haven't done a lot of these "core" lifts in a while so I'm still finding my ground. . . this workout was fairly (I hate to say it) easy. Maybe I have gotten stronger.

* I'm gonna roll with this for a while, no accessories yet.

* Thanks to anybody who drops by!


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you're right Mark, it has been WAY TOO LONG!


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Good Luck with you training and nice to have you back

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I'm looking forward to following your workouts.
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Starting Strength: Workout A

A) Squat: 170x: 5/5/5


B) Bench: 140x: 5/5/5


C) Deadlift: 210x5




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* This was just freaking awesome, no complaints at all. I'm looking forward to seeing my #'s go up fairly quickly.



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nice job. i like how you do a top set of 5 on deadlifts. That's what a lot of people, like glen pendlay recommend. or, something like 3x3
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nice job. i like how you do a top set of 5 on deadlifts. That's what a lot of people, like glen pendlay recommend. or, something like 3x3
Thanks man, the deads were done as singles I hope that's alright. It just makes sense as the deadlift isn't really a lift that you can just rep out on. After setting the bar down I went through my initial setup again. That last rep was killer.


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So after reading the chapter on squats I'm only going to make a couple of minor changes to my setup; everything else seems to be spot-on. . . . so I'm pleased with that. I then skipped to the chapter on power cleans and now I've got a headache, LOL. It's just amazing how much detail and description go into each aspect of the lift. I'd like to add in power cleans soon. Maybe I'll just have to practice them a little bit.

"Starting Strength" is definitely a resource that every lifter could learn from, I know I'll be going back to it, even after finishing reading it completely. . . . . Now I just need to perfect my bench technique as that is easily my weakest and probably worst executed lift. Damn you long arms! .

I'm done rambling now.



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Thanks man, the deads were done as singles I hope that's alright. It just makes sense as the deadlift isn't really a lift that you can just rep out on. After setting the bar down I went through my initial setup again. That last rep was killer.


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well, there's a difference between resetting and doing singles. I reset after each rep as well. Some people bounce the weight off the floor, but i think it's really dangerous to do that. As long as you were doing them consecutively after resetting, and not taking like 2 minute rests between pulls, then you're good!
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well, there's a difference between resetting and doing singles. I reset after each rep as well. Some people bounce the weight off the floor, but i think it's really dangerous to do that. As long as you were doing them consecutively after resetting, and not taking like 2 minute rests between pulls, then you're good!

Cool, right on. . . . yeah I was simply resetting in between reps, not resting.



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Morning Weigh-in : 167 lbs. a bit lighter than I thought I would be. . . but overall I guess lb-for-lb I'm a bit stronger.

Overall nutrition has been good. . . nothing too strict that would limit progress, but not so out of control that its stupid. I'm pretty content, and I'm pumped to hit the gym which will be about 5-ish this afternoon.


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Starting Strength: Workout B


A) Squat

175x: 5/5/5 (+ 5 lbs)


B) Press

90x: 5/5/5 (+5 lbs)


C) Pullups (done until failure)

BWx: 5/5/5



Notes/Comments

* Hard to believe that I'm already gonna break my squat weight for when I was doing "SS" before. The last couple reps of the last set were hard, but not CRAZY hard.

* I suck at presses and chins/pull-ups. . . I wanna improve on these two big time.


* Time to go eat and do some more reading from "Starting Strength."



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Starting Strength: Workout A


*dynamic flexibility warmup*


A) Squat: 180x 5/5/5 (+5 lbs)


B) Bench: 145x 4/3/3 (+5 lbs)


C) Deadlift: 225x 3 (+15 lbs)


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* I would grade this workout a B-. I don't know what my deal was on squats today but it just seemed like I couldn't get comfortable in my setup position, especially my toes. I'm trying to use setup advocated in Starting Strength, except a tad wider than shoulder width. Anyway it seems like I have a hell of a time trying to get my toes flared so that each side mirror's each other. It looks like one is flared more than the other. . .and vice-versa. Done rambling on this.

* Bench was alright, there wasn't any competent spotters there so I didn't really push the envelope too much.

* I might have used too large a jump on the deadlift. . . probably should have used 220. I barely got the 4th rep off the floor.
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Starting Strength: Workout B


*dynamic flexibility focusing on hip mobility*


A) Squat: 185x 5/5/5 (+ 5 lbs)



B) Overhead Press: 95x 5/4/4 (+5 lbs)



C) Chins (to failure): BWx 8/7/5 (no increase in total reps)




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* This was much better, I wasn't in a fog like I was on Wednesday so that right there was an improvement.

* Squats felt much more comfortable, I felt comfortable in setting up which is an absolute must to squat with correct form IMO (un-educated).

* OHP's were hard but I think I'm doing them more correctly than I was before.

* Chins. . . . . . dang man after cranking out 8 in the first set I was thinking at least a couple rep improvement. It's still probably an improvement considering I'm probably a tad heavier than the last time I did chins.

* I was definitely pleased with this. . . probably some extra mobility work on the weekend.



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Starting Strength: Workout A


*dynamic warmup*


A) Squat: 190x 4/4/4 (+5 lbs)



B) Bench: 145x 4/4/4 (+2 total reps)



C) Deadlift: 225x 3 (no performance increase)



Notes

* I don't wanna jump to conclusions but I could be doing it to myself again. I had to workout this morning due to work and my energy levels just weren't there.

* There were some good and bad to this session. I increased my squat weight 5 lbs, and while the bar did feel heavy I was pleased with how I worked to have some increase in performance with that lift.

* My bench form was much better, "SS" has showed me that I've developed some bad habits that I need to get rid of to improve in these lifts and to ultimately stay healthy.

* By the time it came to DL I was pretty gassed. But I'm not going into alarm mode because the lack of performance increase was self-inflicted (IMO). I didn't get a lot of sleep over the weekend. . . that should pretty much say it all. I'm going to try and eat more, I know that increased calories can only help. . . . I need to get over my "food-phobia."

* Thank you if you read all of this, LOL.




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not working til 4 p.m. so I got in some extra mobility work in the basement. . . never hurts right?



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Nice work!

If you do up your cals some, I think your strength will rise quite nicely. I know when I start eating lots more, my strength goes up huge.
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if you start to stall on deads, rotate them every other week, and do some hamstring work the weeks you don't pull.
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nice workouts slimsaw... keep up the hard work and youll continue to grow. Pound away the food and the weights
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thanks for the words guys. . . . I plan on making some progress on the deadlift Friday, hoping to nail all 5 reps.

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don't hope, do it! Start thinking about it, and how you're going to do it. Thinking about your workouts ahead of time, almost obsessing over them, is what works for me.
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good point man. its probably pretty amazing how the mind can alter performance in lifting sessions.


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Starting Strength: Workout B


* dynamic warmup*


A) Squat: 190 x 5/5/4 (+2 total reps)



B) Overhead Press: 95 x 5/5/4 (+1 total rep)



C) Pullup (to failure): BW x 7/5/5 (+2 total reps)



Notes

* almost thought that this wasn't going to happen. walked into the gym and there was no power. went to the locker room and a generator must have kicked on so there was some light. I do my warmup sets and the generator fails. As I load the bar for my work sets I'm still thinking shit should I do these while kinda in the dark. I'm glad I went on with it because they turned out to be awesome, just one rep short for 15.

* presses were alright. . . they're hard though


* pleased I got two more reps on pullups, still thought I'd get more on the final sets. . . but whatever.

* it needs to stop raining so we can grill burgers. . . . . I'll see what I'm weighing in at tomorrow morning I think.



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no activity of sorts today. . . . had class and then had to cut the grass which is a pretty intense job ( like three hours or so).

going to Mongolian BBQ for dinner I should crush that pretty good I'm getting pretty hungry. later on going to play a little Madden 08 and Tiger Woods 08. damn you Xbox 360!


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Starting Strength: Workout A



*dynamic warmup*



A) Squat: 190 x 5/5/5 (+1 rep)



B) DB Bench: 55e x 5/5/5 (substitute)



C) Deadlift: 225 x 1 (-2 reps)



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* had to lift early in the morning again. . . working 11:30-8

* squats were pretty good. . . . 190 lbs was a bear to conquer but I did it . . . workout felt like it was going to go well.

* gym was busy as hell this morning. . which is kinda odd, so I had to do DB bench.

* on to deadlifts. . . . I don't know guys. think I'm gonna start a thread, because apparently I need some help.



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Starting Strength: Workout A



*dynamic warmup*



A) Squat: 190 x 5/5/5 (+1 rep)



B) DB Bench: 55e x 5/5/5 (substitute)



C) Deadlift: 225 x 1 (-2 reps)



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* had to lift early in the morning again. . . working 11:30-8

* squats were pretty good. . . . 190 lbs was a bear to conquer but I did it . . . workout felt like it was going to go well.

* gym was busy as hell this morning. . which is kinda odd, so I had to do DB bench.

* on to deadlifts. . . . I don't know guys. think I'm gonna start a thread, because apparently I need some help.



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film your deadlift form. you may just be fatigued from doing squats so much.
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Could be a form issue, yes. Hows your diet/rest going?

Maybe next time do deadlifts first.
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This log inspired me to buy Starting Strength! I'll probably have to adjust the workouts but it looks like fun!
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sweet...i'm also doing the SS workout right now. just started yesterday

look forward to seeing you progress this too
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