140 Days - A Personal Challenge - Page 22 - JP Fitness Forums

gregl515 · 12-25-2007, 12:32 AM

Congrats on the PR and the new plates.! That calls for some gingersnaps! Merry Christmas!

tkinsley · 12-25-2007, 06:10 AM

Merry Christmas, Paula!

Tina

SpacecityPaula · 12-25-2007, 11:43 AM

Thanks Everyone!!!

Got my copy of NROL4W yesterday afternoon and I got TNT as well. Going to do some reading this afternoon.

Santa brought me a new weight tree for my oly plates. It even has a barbell holder in it!!! I'll spend the other part of the afternoon putting that together.

Apparently I exercise in my sleep. (I'm a very active dreamer and have always talked in my sleep).

Bob said that last night I was scrunching up and then stretching out repeatedly while I was sleeping and I'd grunt as I'd stretch like I was lifting something or counting. He found it quite entertaining to watch.

RacerBill · 12-25-2007, 08:26 PM

Merry Christmas, Paula!

Nice gifts! I got TNT, too!

mel · 12-26-2007, 07:28 PM

You know you are really in to working out when....

So, is TNT and NROL-women your after HELL plan? I'm trying to decide what to do eating wise...kinda up in the air.

mel

Biskit · 12-26-2007, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SpacecityPaula

Thanks Everyone!!!

Got my copy of NROL4W yesterday afternoon and I got TNT as well. Going to do some reading this afternoon.

Santa brought me a new weight tree for my oly plates. It even has a barbell holder in it!!! I'll spend the other part of the afternoon putting that together.

Apparently I exercise in my sleep. (I'm a very active dreamer and have always talked in my sleep).

Bob said that last night I was scrunching up and then stretching out repeatedly while I was sleeping and I'd grunt as I'd stretch like I was lifting something or counting. He found it quite entertaining to watch.

Nice gifts! I'm jealous

Your dream workout is too funny.

Deb

SpacecityPaula · 12-26-2007, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Biskit

Nice gifts! I'm jealous

Your dream workout is too funny.

Deb

I know, I was quizzing him last night when I was over there to figure out exactly what I was doing. it was crunches of some sort apparently.

The gift giving continued today, we bought ourselves an elliptical. This is our first major purchase as a couple. It'll reside at my place since my ceilings are a quite bit taller than his. We got the New Balance 9000 Elliptical with a center drive. It had the best reviews of everything I looked at, and when we were at the store, it was the one we liked the best. We can also adjust the stride so it fits him at 6'4" and me at 5' 8.5"

Now I just have to get the damn thing assembled. I can do that myself I think.

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Originally Posted by mel

You know you are really in to working out when....

So, is TNT and NROL-women your after HELL plan? I'm trying to decide what to do eating wise...kinda up in the air.

mel

NROL4W is my after HELL Plan exercise wise. I'm not sure what I am going to do eating wise yet. Although TNT advocates not counting calories, I don't feel comfortable doing that at this point - and honestly after my experience with low to lose weight and then adding lifting to the mix, I'm not sure that Low carb is the best way to go - even though PCOS Gurus recommend a Low Carb Diet because of the insulin. In looking at the data I've collected for myself, I still lost weight regardless of what the ratios of my macros were and supposedly because of the PCOS it's supposed to be tough losing weight. I think many people with PCOS aren't losing weight because they aren't adding activity with the diet or they think they are dieting but aren't really dieting at all.

Considering I had to up my calories when I did NROL, I think I'm going to have to probably do at least 10XBW for my caloric requirements on lifting days. I might cycle calories like I did for the first phase of HELL. 2500 on lifting days, 2400 on Aerobic days and 1750 on rest days. My body seemed to respond fairly well to that.

kfisherx · 12-27-2007, 11:29 AM

Now that I am caught up on Mel's log and had the chance to download the HELL plan I am better able to figure out a bit about what you guys are up to with this one. When you cycle calories does it make your cravings worse? It sort of make sense to do that but I am pretty comfortable right now keeping my cals steady so am worried to change things around too much.

I am very new to this so pardon my newbie question if it is offensive. I am wondering why you are switching diet plans? I see this actually with others too and perhaps I will ask it in the nutrition folder as well. Do you go on different diets for maintaining or is this because you are wanting to be in a loss mode again? I am hoping to be in a deficit for some time (12-16 weeks) and then go to maintain mode and stay there for a nice long while. So far I haven't had to learn about different diets rather I have just been logging what I eat and then focusing on getting a certain percentage of proteins and carbs and fat into those cals. My trainer helps guide me in this but I don't think it is any special sort of diet rather just getting a balanced diet which consists of eating only nutritious foods as opposed to empty foods. So far it is working I think. I was hoping that once I get this down I would have it for life. Will I have to switch things around one day too?

SpacecityPaula · 12-27-2007, 04:25 PM

No it doesn't make my cravings better or worse. On the days that my calories are low, I have higher protein so that I am more satiated.

And your question is not offensive in the least. When I started this, I started by cleaning up my diet and getting rid of the junk in my diet. One of the things I've discovered about this whole process is that it's different for different people. People try different things because what they are currently doing stops working or they go into a different phase. For example, I'm dieting to lose weight so I would need to restrict calories. Even so, everyonce in a while I need to do what's called a refeed where the macros don't count (calories generally do tho) to give your body a break. Sometimes people need a break and they take their calories up to maintenance so they maintain; and if you are working on a bulking cycle to add muscle, you will eat above maintenance.

SpacecityPaula · 12-29-2007, 06:06 PM

1x4x45 on all the exercises listed below for 4 circuits 2 minutes rest between each circuit.

Barbell curls
Upright row
Military press
Hang Snatch
Barbell Row
Hang Clean

Approximate time 20 minutes

mel · 12-30-2007, 06:23 PM

Paula, we have TNT in the mail as we speak. I'm really undecided on the weight stuff myself. I'm like you. I read so much about not counting calories, but I'm not safe doing that. I need the numbers as a guide.

I was just reading over my precision nutrition stuff this after noon and read a section I didn't remember. I think I am very carb intolerant, so anything I do will have to be low carb. My holiday break was proof of that.

I don't know about you, but I'm waffling on how extreme my diet should be after HELL. One part of me thinks that maintenance would be wise based on the deficit eating I've been doing for 3 months, but the other part of me thinks that I should keep pushing the fat loss gains I've made in the program. Which way are you leaning?

mel

UConnJulie · 12-30-2007, 09:47 PM

Try TNT ... count portions and use portion size guides for control ... it is limitlessly customizable ... good stuff!!! You'll like it!!!

Lost Dog · 12-30-2007, 10:30 PM

Girls, TNT has four things going for it.

1. Healthy foods
2. Foods that are satiating and help you eat the right amounts without counting calories.
3. Foods that get your body into an optimal state for fat loss.
4. A food strategy that are seems to make binging and cravings slow down.

If #2 isn't good for you, then you still have 1, 3, and 4 on your side.

There's nothing to stop you from counting calories. I've done that on TNT. But, after a while, I figured out how much to eat to lose weight and I don't need to count. Granted, in the back of my mind, I know how many calories I'm getting, but day by day, I just eat the right amounts.

SpacecityPaula · 12-31-2007, 06:45 AM

Mel

If I remember correctly ( really haven't read TNT closely yet) TNT is basically structured for the first 4 weeks like Leigh's diet with no cheat meals built in. But I like that the types of food (from what I can remember is a little more open).

Functional workout last night. Came over and helped the boy clean stuff up so he has a bit more room to move exercise wise. We hauled a bunch of stuff to the curb and basically did a bunch of scrubbing. I think we have more rearranging happening this evening but I'll probably do something today at home.