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Old 06-13-2008, 12:57 PM   #2491 (permalink)
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hmmmm I posted as well but it seems to have disappeared. Asking again, what's a core push press? I don't like the push press in fatloss 3 becuz it makes my fat jiggle (sorry for the bad visual). What a great variety in those workouts and congrats on upping your kettleball weight!

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Hmm I didn't see that you'd asked the question in either version of my log - one version has Tim's reply to my latest workout, and the other has one from Karla and one from FoodfromAfar.

I didn't up the kettlebell weight - I just filled in my collection of the lower weight ones.

As for the core push press, you hold a dumbbell at chest level, perpendicular to the ground. To do the press, you'd turn to the left, and extend your arms, pushing the weight out until they're fully extended. Then bring the weight back and return to center. Do the same on the right side. Once you return to center, you raise the dumbbell straight up, and bring it back down to chest level. That's one rep.
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Old 06-13-2008, 12:59 PM   #2492 (permalink)
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Good to see you are still going strong, Tom!

I must say it makes me happy to see that someone else gets tired of chicken. I sure know that I do.

Keep up the great work!

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Good to see you are still going strong, Tom!

I must say it makes me happy to see that someone else gets tired of chicken. I sure know that I do.

Keep up the great work!

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Thanks Deadlift Girl! Nice to see you about after such a long hiatus. As for me, I think I'm going to ask for a do over - weight, for whatever reason, is creeping back up, so after tonight I'll buckle down yet again to get it back down (hopefully below 230).
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Old 06-14-2008, 09:59 AM   #2494 (permalink)
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Workout A

All weights are per hand unless otherwise noted.

A Suitcase Deadlifts 1x50@40

B1 Inverted Row 2x7
B2 Cable Row 2x15

C1 Cable Squats 3x10
C2 Parallel Bench Step-ups 3x10

D1 Assisted Dips 2x10
D2 DB Bench Press 2x20@40

A Suitcase Deadlifts - Back to the 50 reps again *sigh* BUT - I did them all in one set! Very happy about that.

B1 Inverted Row - A little disappointed here, but it's been a while since I did this particular exercise.

B2 Cable Row - An oldie but a goodie, your standard cable row.

C1 Cable Squats - These seemed a bit easier, but they do seem to encourage a fuller range of motion.

C2 Parallel Bench Step-ups - Tim calls these single leg bench squats, but I feel my description is better suited to the movement I did. Basically instead of facing (being perpendicular) to the bench to do the step up, you do the step-up with the bench at your side.

D1 Assisted Dips - Been a while since I've done dips - apparently I can use the work.

D2 DB Bench Press - I picked up the 40's here and they proved suitable to the task.

Overall - As part of a re-evaluation, Tim's decided to try an A/B workout schedule for me. This of course is workout A.
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Old 06-14-2008, 10:15 AM   #2495 (permalink)
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Sorry about the do-over. What's this "re-evaluation"? Just Tim seeing how you do with various set ups?
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Sorry about the do-over. What's this "re-evaluation"? Just Tim seeing how you do with various set ups?
Well it's my own fault re: the do-over, but its gotta be done. I'm not sure about the "re-evaluation" but I'll write Tim to ask about it.
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Keep plugging, Tom! The key is to keep ourselves moving in a positive direction. If we goof up, we just make the next choice a good one and get headed right back to the direction we want to be going!

Great workout, btw!!
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Keep plugging, Tom! The key is to keep ourselves moving in a positive direction. If we goof up, we just make the next choice a good one and get headed right back to the direction we want to be going!

Great workout, btw!!
Thanks - I'm kind of dreading the B workout today, because it leads off with an exercise I've had problems with in the past, and it's high reps. But by the same token I know it's something I need to work on... Ah well, there are worse things.
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233.25 - Kind of surprised with this result, but happy nonetheless. My 5-day rolling average reminds me of those water level reports one sees when the waters are on the rise. Speaking of which, my thoughts and prayers go out to the victims of the flooding in the midwest.
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Nice workout! He has you doing those devil step ups again. Good job on them.
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Workout B

Weights listed are per hand, except for superset B.

A 50 T-pushups (as few sets as possible) - 5x5 each side

B1 Assisted Pull-up - 2x8@-145
B2 Reverse Grip Lat Pulldown - 1x15@70, 1x15@90

C1 Lunges - 1x10@20, 1x10@25, 1x10@30
C2 Straight Leg Deadlift - 1x10@20, 1x10@35, 1x10@40

D1 Single Arm Clean and Press - 2x8@40
D2 Upright Row w/Lateral Extension - 2x20@10

A 50 T-pushups (as few sets as possible) - I was dreading these, not knowing how or if my shoulder would hold up, but it did quite well. I kept it to a manageable 5 sets of 5 pushups each side.

B1 Assisted Pull-up - Close one here, but just made both sets for -145.

B2 Reverse Grip Lat Pulldown - Dialing in weights here - next time I'll try both at 90 or 100.

C1 Lunges - Again, dialing in weights here too. Might try 30's throughout next time.

C2 Straight Leg Deadlift - Still assessing weights. I think I can go higher here too. Ironically enough it's not the muscles worked that are causing me problems it's my grip (esp on the left dumbbell).

D1 Single Arm Clean and Press - Well, now I know what a push press is, as I think this is the first time I've done an exercise where I really had to do it.

D2 Upright Row w/Lateral Extension - The weight looks ridiculously small, but I was reaching the breaking point toward the end of each set.

Overall A good workout - I'm particularly pleased by the T-pushup performance, as I can now start making the number of sets smaller. The rest was mainly figuring out the weights to use, so I'll be ready for the next B workout when it rolls around.
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Great job on the T-pushups. For whatever reason, those scare the poop out of me so I've never even tried them.
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Great job on the T-pushups. For whatever reason, those scare the poop out of me so I've never even tried them.
Give 'em a try - they're pretty umm... interesting... yeah that's it - interesting lol.
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Give 'em a try - they're pretty umm... interesting... yeah that's it - interesting lol.
T push ups are fun... but I'm a little off so take the source fwiw.
Lookin' good, Tom!
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Really nice workout! Thats a tough workout when it hits almost every muscle group in one workout. Well done!
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Your workouts are so impressive! Glad your shoulder held up.
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Great Workouts Tom!
I'm a huge fan of the T push up. When I finally tackled them, I made it my goal to get to where I could use dumbells in each hand with them. That's a challenge to shoot for!

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T push ups are fun... but I'm a little off so take the source fwiw.
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I'm a huge fan of the T push up. When I finally tackled them, I made it my goal to get to where I could use dumbells in each hand with them. That's a challenge to shoot for!

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Thanks everyone, I appreciate the encouragement. If you've ever exercised where pain made itself felt, but didn't prevent exercise, you'll know what I've been feeling the past 6 months whenever I've done push-ups of any sort. For this to be mostly pain free is a big step. And yes, I've done T-pushups before (when doing NROL) with the dumbbells (the hyooooge 5lbers even). I'm always reminded of Lou Schuler's comment that if you're doing these with the round dumbbells then you're doing a circus trick.
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232.75 - Still on the way back down (yay!) - hopefully I'm past that nasty little crest in my 5 day rolling average. I've also started reincorporating carbs in a limited way into my diet - I had some strawberries left over from a work party, so I had those along with my cottage cheese last night. Tonight, I hope to bake a potato or two to have for tonight and the next day.
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Recent acquisitions include the 3 pairs of kettlebells I mentioned earlier in my log. I now have a pair of 4, 8 and 12 kg kb's to go along with the pair of 16 kg's I purchased earlier this year. I was surprised though, as the 16kg's are made by Ader, and the other three pairs are made by Muscledriver USA. (Yes, the difference in brand is making my OCD skitz out.) I ordered them all from Wichita Falls Weightlifting, which still shows the Aders on the website, with no mention of the Muscledriver kb's that I can see. Not really complaining, just got a surprise when I opened the boxes is all.

I've not actually used the smaller KB's in workouts yet, but the handles feel a bit rougher/less metallic than the Aders. Also too, if the bottoms are proportional, the Aders have larger bottoms, which might be helpful when doing renegade rows etc. Though the Muscledriver KBs have removable rubber boots which have the weight printed on them so if you do take them off, you'll know which ones they go back to.

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D2 Upright Row w/Lateral Extension - The weight looks ridiculously small, but I was reaching the breaking point toward the end of each set.
As soon as I saw Lateral Extension, the weight didn't look ridiculously small to me. Everything after that sounds good too. Didn't say before, but I'm loving your KB discussion -- it's like having my own personal reviewer. I'd already been thinking about getting them, but your experience is giving much more thought on the subject.
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As soon as I saw Lateral Extension, the weight didn't look ridiculously small to me. Everything after that sounds good too. Didn't say before, but I'm loving your KB discussion -- it's like having my own personal reviewer. I'd already been thinking about getting them, but your experience is giving much more thought on the subject.
I'd say get one - I understand that women typically start out with an 8kg (18lbs) and that strong women could start with a 12kg (26.5 lbs). While Wichita has great prices for them, you have to buy them in pairs to get that price. As Roland pointed out a while back, you can buy singles for about the same price at performbetter.com. Ideally you should test drive some locally to see what weight works best, and if you like kb lifting. I also purchased Steve Cotter's Encyclopedia of Kettlebell Lifting (Vol. 1) and what I've seen of it and used, I've liked.
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You know Tom, I saw an article on Sparkpeople this morning that made me think of you and the Happy hour sitch that you've talked about undoing your hard work that you've made during the weekend.

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I know that my kbells always seem heavier than dbs of the same weight so the weights don't look ridiculously small at all.
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Thanks Paula, this has been much on my mind of late. The kicker is that everyone I go out with is thinner than I am lol. *sigh* But it is kind of bringing home the point that (as Julie pointed out a while back, and even though I've been fighting it tooth and nail) it looks like I will at the very least have to scale back happy hour, if not cut it out completely to see what happens with my body.

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I know that my kbells always seem heavier than dbs of the same weight so the weights don't look ridiculously small at all.
I agree - I'd swear the 16kg KB is much heavier than the 35lb dumbbell I have, but I know it's actually only 0.2 lb heavier... go figure. Either way, for whatever reason I love using kettlebells.
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Thanks Paula, this has been much on my mind of late. The kicker is that everyone I go out with is thinner than I am lol. *sigh* But it is kind of bringing home the point that (as Julie pointed out a while back, and even though I've been fighting it tooth and nail) it looks like I will at the very least have to scale back happy hour, if not cut it out completely to see what happens with my body.
Part of the reason I posted that is two things you've said in the past two weeks that have caught my eye as I was trying to get caught up in journals yesterday.

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As for me, I think I'm going to ask for a do over - weight, for whatever reason, is creeping back up, so after tonight I'll buckle down yet again to get it back down (hopefully below 230).
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On another note, I expect my weight will be higher tomorrow, probably 235-237, as I tried out the ABC diet yesterday. For those of you who aren't familiar with it, it's the Anything But Chicken diet - where you reach a point where you just can't eat one more ounce of chicken or anything that a chicken produced. So I opted for a veggie pizza which was very tasty. Add to that that I put a new beer on tap - Lancaster's Milk Stout - and you have the makings of a very tasty evening (but which is very bad for the waistline). No worries though, I'll spend the week getting my weight down again.
I think the question you asked last Friday is rhetorical at best, you do know why the you aren't losing. The second paragraph from a week earlier shows that at least in your head you know it. But that doesn't mean that you still aren't fighting the knowledge.

I know you've been fighting the idea of dieting and scaling back. That you want to be "just like everybody else" in regards to food. I've been the same way for the past 6-9 months. It's been nice to pretend that I don't have to care about what goes in my mouth and that I can eat like everyone else. But in the past few weeks, as I followed the advice that Leigh gave me to keep my diet in check while I travel, I've realized that I can't pretend any more that the diet doesn't matter in reaching my goal of being a "normal" weight. I'm going to have to suck it up and be hungry for a while.

It also means I have to be brutally honestly with myself about what I'm doing and changing the food habits. As much as I'd like to think that to McDonalds and getting an ice cream cone and cookies is "portion control" because I won't have a pint of ice cream and 5 dozen cookies in the house from making a batch of cookies, it's not if I'm doing it daily (and I was). Yet I could justify it because it made me feel like I was in control of the situation. All it really was is a quick way to get 516 calories into my body and another way to beat up myself. And no food is worth the self-flagellation I was doing.

Does that mean I can't ever have them while I am dieting?? Nope. It just means that when I do have them, they have to be worked into my plan one at a time and not all at once because I've got better things to do with the 364 other calories that are left over.

I don't know if you are counting calories or not, but maybe it's time to start again so you can see what you are really eating calorie-wise versus what you think you are eating.
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I can so relate on the pain with the shoulder thing. Enough pain that you feel it each time, but not enough to totally ruin the workout. I am glad your healing up a bit.
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Old 06-17-2008, 06:48 PM   #2518 (permalink)
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I don't know if you are counting calories or not, but maybe it's time to start again so you can see what you are really eating calorie-wise versus what you think you are eating.
I have been, except for happy hour and that whole pizza and beer thing in the post you quoted. It's a very localized problem, limited most times to Friday night, but sometimes Saturday. As you point out though the evidence that weight loss progress and happy hours are incompatible is mounting, so I'm going to have to at the very least alter the experience.

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I can so relate on the pain with the shoulder thing. Enough pain that you feel it each time, but not enough to totally ruin the workout. I am glad your healing up a bit.
Thanks - yup that's exactly it. I kept waiting for the pain to show itself, but thankfully it didn't. Here's to hoping that that is a trend.
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Old 06-17-2008, 07:18 PM   #2519 (permalink)
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Congrats on the iPod dock and the lack of pain AND the once-again downward-trending weight!

Oh, yeah, and I loaded up on some feta and spinach during yesterday's grocery run so I'll be having a yummy omelette tonight, all thanks to your influence.
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Very good post Paula.... Bytsi and I were discussing this in her log. From a Mathmatical perspective one meal can mess up your plans for fat loss for two weeks. Everything you do has to be consious in a fatloss situation or you will be a person who diets forever. Bleh...
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