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Old 01-28-2008, 06:58 PM   #1501 (permalink)
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nice workout tom! and the details are interesting, a true renaissance man. I especially enjoy hearing about the food things, and I might decide to dabble in some historical cooking myself---that sounds fun! I have heard of gingerbread recipes that are centuries old.
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Stopped in to check up on your workouts and you're hitting every beer pub in PA! I miss Thai food.
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Yes, among other things... Didn't want to drone on as I'd typed in quite a bit already.
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nice workout tom! and the details are interesting, a true renaissance man. I especially enjoy hearing about the food things, and I might decide to dabble in some historical cooking myself---that sounds fun! I have heard of gingerbread recipes that are centuries old.
My all time favorite restaurant is the City Tavern in Philadelphia - given my love of history and good food it's a no brainer. Of all the times I've been there I've yet to have a bad meal. One of my favorite dishes (included in their cookbook) is Salmon Corncakes (mmm salmon corncakes...). The beer is provided by Yards Brewing (also a Philadelphia fixture) - and made from recipes known to or used by the founding fathers. They're modernized for our tastes of course, but they are basically the same recipe.

Which brings me around to Dogfishhead Brewery and Distillery in DE... They make some interesting beers, the Midas Touch and Chateau Jiahu are probably some of the most unique. The former was made from chemical analysis of drinking vessels found in an ancient Babylonian (I believe) tomb. The latter was made from a recipe described on Neolithic pottery. Both are excellent (and no doubt modernized for current taste) and well worth seeking out.

As for historical cooking - one of my favorite sites to peruse is Gode Cookery - for the aspiring medieval gourmand/cook.

Think that's it for now...
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Stopped in to check up on your workouts and you're hitting every beer pub in PA! I miss Thai food.
We've lots here that's for sure. The closest one to me is about a half hour to an hour drive. Beer bars though are quite a bit closer thankfully. One of the reasons I got into cooking was to prepare to make the jump into brewing. (Back in colonial times, women were the brewers as it was considered part of the sustenance of the house.)
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I've not been - but I aim to get back on track by making my own food again.
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I've not been - but I aim to get back on track by making my own food again.
I can honestly say that I'm forced to deprive myself of a lot of my favorite foods. I know I CAN eat them and lose fat, but I just get tired of craving what I know is in the kitchen.

Although, last night I cooked for hours making food for the week. 3 types of frittatas, meatloaf, the ugliest terrine (the pressed kind) imaginable, and a variety of vegetables.

I'm tempted to buy that medieval cookbook, however. Do you have it? Is it carb heavy? I'd still get it, unless it's just a carb fest.
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Hmm I seem to have droned on here a bit - as it's probably wayyy more than you wanted to know. Having said that I think I'll end here, with a thank you for asking.
I enjoyed reading this. I fell in love at 12 with painting when I went here.

I'm having too much fun thinking about the types of art I enjoy. Wouldn't have thought I'd be going there when I came onto the forum this evening.
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I can honestly say that I'm forced to deprive myself of a lot of my favorite foods. I know I CAN eat them and lose fat, but I just get tired of craving what I know is in the kitchen.

Although, last night I cooked for hours making food for the week. 3 types of frittatas, meatloaf, the ugliest terrine (the pressed kind) imaginable, and a variety of vegetables.

I'm tempted to buy that medieval cookbook, however. Do you have it? Is it carb heavy? I'd still get it, unless it's just a carb fest.
No I don't - if you read the site though they should have recipes for you to try without having to purchase the cookbook right off the bat. (Almond milk comes to mind...)
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I enjoyed reading this. I fell in love at 12 with painting when I went here.

I'm having too much fun thinking about the types of art I enjoy. Wouldn't have thought I'd be going there when I came onto the forum this evening.
Dang, I'm jealous lol - Dali's a favorite of mine (a poster of his Christ of St. John of the Cross hangs on one of my walls). Though I did get to see the big Dali exhibition (last year?) at the Philadelphia Museum of Art and that was great, except for whatever reason they didn't have Persistence of Memory... but it seemed like they had everything else...

The most recent exhibition I went to was the Renoir exhibition again at the Philly Museum of Art. I love going there as I always learn something new, and they know how to manage the crowd. The Renoir was about his landscapes that he painted - interesting juxtaposition along various themes in his work - a few paintings of people relaxing on a Sunday afternoon, various cityscapes etc. And as I've mentioned earlier, next up is Frida Kahlo.
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Drone on dude!!! I live vicariously through your posts so thank you for sharing!

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Yeah Tom I am loving it too. Keep it up and more of it. All this working out talk all the time is boring anyway.
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wow, will check out that cookbook.

gosh, lost dog. I admire anyone who can pursue fitness and health goals and avoid their favorite foods, I just have chosen not too. I work them in periodically. If getting much leaner means no chocolate, red wine, thai food, the list goes on, then I don't mind being the size I am now. right now, I have no health problems, take no medicines at all, can do any sport that I want to, I feel great! no doubt, 20 more pounds would take me down a few sizes and up a few speed groups in my marathon program. but no way would I give up my favorite foods entirely for that. of course, if I could live in tosca reno's body for a day, maybe that would convince me, lol
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wow, will check out that cookbook.

gosh, lost dog. I admire anyone who can pursue fitness and health goals and avoid their favorite foods, I just have chosen not too. I work them in periodically. If getting much leaner means no chocolate, red wine, thai food, the list goes on, then I don't mind being the size I am now. right now, I have no health problems, take no medicines at all, can do any sport that I want to, I feel great! no doubt, 20 more pounds would take me down a few sizes and up a few speed groups in my marathon program. but no way would I give up my favorite foods entirely for that. of course, if I could live in tosca reno's body for a day, maybe that would convince me, lol
I think there's a balance to be struck - as I've said before in these pages, I used to be the guy who ate everything and did nothing... As much as I don't want to be that guy again I also don't want to be the guy that is always in the gym etc and is afraid to eat or drink. Moderation in all things, including moderation sometimes.
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I think there's a balance to be struck - as I've said before in these pages, I used to be the guy who ate everything and did nothing... As much as I don't want to be that guy again I also don't want to be the guy that is always in the gym etc and is afraid to eat or drink. Moderation in all things, including moderation sometimes.

Hey Tom - I love your posts and talking beer and food. I really admire that you have been able to strike a balance in your life between loving food and the social aspects like your Friday happy hour, and making progress towards your goals. That is something that I really struggle with. I feel like LD, like I've mostly given up on restaurants and pasta and pastries and other stuff I love to try to look and feel how I want.

BTW, I made the crockpot chicken vindaloo. I love it and it was easy! Thanks for the great recipe.
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Hey Tom - I love your posts and talking beer and food. I really admire that you have been able to strike a balance in your life between loving food and the social aspects like your Friday happy hour, and making progress towards your goals. That is something that I really struggle with. I feel like LD, like I've mostly given up on restaurants and pasta and pastries and other stuff I love to try to look and feel how I want.

BTW, I made the crockpot chicken vindaloo. I love it and it was easy! Thanks for the great recipe.
Thanks Leah - you don't have to give these things up entirely... Just make them true treats - the exception rather than the rule. Progress toward your physical goals is great, but that has to be balanced with progress toward emotional and spiritual goals as well. Or put another way, you've worked awfully hard to get to where you are today - a treat now and again in the scheme won't matter that much, and it might make things easier to live with.

Did you use a crockpot for the vindaloo? If so, what size?
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gosh, lost dog. I admire anyone who can pursue fitness and health goals and avoid their favorite foods, I just have chosen not too. I work them in periodically. If getting much leaner means no chocolate, red wine, thai food, the list goes on, then I don't mind being the size I am now. right now, I have no health problems, take no medicines at all, can do any sport that I want to, I feel great! no doubt, 20 more pounds would take me down a few sizes and up a few speed groups in my marathon program. but no way would I give up my favorite foods entirely for that. of course, if I could live in tosca reno's body for a day, maybe that would convince me, lol
I love food. I have to make my favorites on occasion. For me, it's easier to go strict for a couple of weeks, then have a couple of weeks of more relaxed eating.

For several months, I was maintaining my weight and just working on getting stronger. I was able to have my favorite foods in moderation and do just just fine.

It's mental for me. Some people go crazy NOT having their faves. I go crazier keeping them in my regular diet when I can't have all that I'd want. Bread, for instance. I used to bake bread 2-3 times per week. It's just easier not to have the bread.
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Bread, for instance. I used to bake bread 2-3 times per week. It's just easier not to have the bread.
That I can see - I stopped making bread because the few times I have made it I was unable to resist the temptation.
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Hey Tom - I love your posts and talking beer and food. I really admire that you have been able to strike a balance in your life between loving food and the social aspects like your Friday happy hour, and making progress towards your goals. That is something that I really struggle with. I feel like LD, like I've mostly given up on restaurants and pasta and pastries and other stuff I love to try to look and feel how I want.

BTW, I made the crockpot chicken vindaloo. I love it and it was easy! Thanks for the great recipe.
To be clear, I think that Tom's approach is mentally healthier than my own.

I used to religiously count calories. When I did that, I ate anything I wanted (in moderation) and just kept under my calories.

Tosca Reno was mentioned. She eats all sorts of good stuff and just seems to watch calories and food quality. Of course, she focuses on the healthy stuff, but in the end, eats the foods that she loves.

Find a method that works for you and don't be afraid to try new methods. Just never stop. You never go back to what wasn't working (which, for me, was eating like a pig and sitting on my ass). You learn and move back to what worked or onto some new method to give it a whirl.
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Yesterday, actually Think it's back a few pages though since my log's been well traveled of late. (Not complaining, certainly - I like the discussions.)
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To be clear, I think that Tom's approach is mentally healthier than my own.

I used to religiously count calories. When I did that, I ate anything I wanted (in moderation) and just kept under my calories.

Tosca Reno was mentioned. She eats all sorts of good stuff and just seems to watch calories and food quality. Of course, she focuses on the healthy stuff, but in the end, eats the foods that she loves.

Find a method that works for you and don't be afraid to try new methods. Just never stop. You never go back to what wasn't working (which, for me, was eating like a pig and sitting on my ass). You learn and move back to what worked or onto some new method to give it a whirl.
I agree - finding what works for you and what you can live with is the key. Mine may not be the most efficient or scientific approach, but it seems to be getting the job done nonetheless. And of course, the quality of food definitely comes into play - which is one reason I'm going back to cooking for myself. I know exactly what goes into it, and I can make it according to my taste.
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Thanks Leah - you don't have to give these things up entirely... Just make them true treats - the exception rather than the rule. Progress toward your physical goals is great, but that has to be balanced with progress toward emotional and spiritual goals as well. Or put another way, you've worked awfully hard to get to where you are today - a treat now and again in the scheme won't matter that much, and it might make things easier to live with.

Did you use a crockpot for the vindaloo? If so, what size?
You are right that there has to be balance. In my 200+ lb past I would treat myself constantly with food. You know, I had a rough day so I'm stopping at Dairy Queen for an ice cream. I have to get my car inspected so while I wait I'll treat myself to a cherry danish. Sometimes now its hard to remember how terrible I felt about the way I looked as a result.

For the recipe, I think it is a 4 qt crockpot. Its not really big and sometimes recipes don't fit in it. I doubled the recipe, using about 2 1/4 lbs chicken.
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To be clear, I think that Tom's approach is mentally healthier than my own.

I used to religiously count calories. When I did that, I ate anything I wanted (in moderation) and just kept under my calories.

Tosca Reno was mentioned. She eats all sorts of good stuff and just seems to watch calories and food quality. Of course, she focuses on the healthy stuff, but in the end, eats the foods that she loves.

Find a method that works for you and don't be afraid to try new methods. Just never stop. You never go back to what wasn't working (which, for me, was eating like a pig and sitting on my ass). You learn and move back to what worked or onto some new method to give it a whirl.
I think Tom's approach is healthier than my own too. I tend to obsess as well. I always get it in my mind that being really strict will get me to where I want, but I think the truth is that being patient and consistent like Tom is actually the key.
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The past week? No - I've been lax in regard to my diet this past week. But back on the wagon now - I find that Plan E suits me best - having reloading days and carbs pre-/post-workout is something that I can do without having to think about it.
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Old 01-29-2008, 07:43 PM   #1530 (permalink)
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A good class again - well attended too. Mix of flat runs and hills, so more of an all-terrain ride I suppose.
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