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stingo · 03-03-2008, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kfisherx

Sorry Tom if I came off too harsh. I was just chastised for my own diet blunders (too much sodium) this week so the whole subject was fresh. I was also wondering if your trainer was falling down on you in that area. Of course we do it with or without them in theory but it is a big part of their job (the reason you are paying them) to keep on you about your diet as diet is 80% of the battle. I know I would do pretty well without him, but knowing that he is spot checking my logs and that I have to answer for the "cheats" keeps me pretty consistently not doing cheats.

Besides the food isn't that good anymore (as you are discovering too). Sure it is good when it goes in, but almost immediately I feel like a slug and just awful for a long while. Then there is the guilt thing. Then to top it all off I have to answer for it during my training instead of training. It pisses me off to pay to talk about my cheats instead of talking about my form during a lift.

Indeed - When I posted my first response above, I was beset with the feelings you mention in your second paragraph (slug, guilt, etc), so I sidestepped your point to make a tangential one about doing things for oneself, rather because of fearing someone else's reaction. After I came to my senses, I had to admit that you were correct that I needed to get back on track. Thanks for telling me that, even though I didn't want to hear it at the time.

stingo · 03-03-2008, 03:52 PM

Rests variable as needed - finish in as few sets/rests as possible.

A: 25 Pull Ups (Barbell Grip) 1x15@-250, 1x10@-250

B: 50 Suitcase Deadlifts 1x30@40, 1x20@40

C: 50 Push Ups 1x30@BW, 1x15@BW, 1x5@BW

D: 50 Step Ups 1x50@BW (alternating sets)

E: 50 Floorwipers 1x15 each side, 1x10 each side

F: 50 Clean/Press 1x30@20, 1x20@20 (alternating sets)

G: 25 Pull Ups (Barbell Grip) 1x15@-250, 1x10@-250

Time: 36.47 (according to my Ipod stopwatch)

A, G Pull Ups:- Tougher go of it today, but I made it through.

B Suitcase Deadlifts - I really need to check with Tim on these as regards to form.

C Push Ups: As with the the DL's, a form check (to see if I'm going low enough) is needed.

D Step Ups: Finally hit 50 for each leg!

E Floorwipers: Need to keep my legs straight for this one, and try for more reps in the first set.

F Clean/Press: Backed off to 30/20 this time around.

Overall: Proof positive that poor nutrition choices and nearly a week of not working out is not a good combination for performance. I felt slower and more tired going through the workout today because of those two factors. Hopefully things will improve as the week goes on.

stingo · 03-03-2008, 04:47 PM

I should also add I looked at two movies on Sunday:

300: Since I'm doing the workout associated with the film I figured it was time to actually see the film. While not as moving as Gladiator, it does have its moments. (The Queen and Theron in the council chamber, Leonidas' scenes with Xerxes, and various other exchanges between the Spartan soldiers themselves.) Not for the squeamish, it offers more gore and violence than even Gladiator provided. If swords and sandals movies are your thing, then definitely give it a look. Though it'd be perfect for a drinking game - everyone taking a drink when anyone says "Sparta" or "Spartan", would have people trashed by the film's halfway point.

To Have and Have Not: Humphrey Bogart and Lauren Bacall star in what seems to be a try at recreating another Casablanca. This time Bogie's the captain of a small boat in Vichy controlled Martinique. And of course, he gets involved with Bacall's femme fatale both on screen and off, as a real affair ignited between the costars. The romance is set against the backdrop of the intrigues that Bogart's apathetic character is drawn into, much like Casablanca. Interestingly enough, Ernest Hemingway wrote the original novel, and William Faulkner was the script doctor assigned to make everything work. A good film, well worth the viewing time.

tcoy777 · 03-03-2008, 08:01 PM

Good job on the workout. You will get the diet back on track and get your energy back in no time.

300 was a decent movie. I have wasted more time watching worse movies, but your right its not a classic by any means. The special effects were great and if I see it again playing this drinking game would be a fun way to see it.

nutbar · 03-03-2008, 10:01 PM

Welcome back!

I've seen neither Gladiator or 300. But I did see a (bio-type) movie within the past couple of years about Frida. Of course, I'm sure the movie took liberties telling her story and couldn't be nearly as in-depth as I would have liked, but I was fascinated nonetheless. I need to dig up a bio book on her once of these days. Thanks for that link to PBS' page about her.

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Dinner was at Roy’s – and though it is a chain restaurant, you’d never know it from appearances. Comments were made about how well they used the space of the former bank building the restaurant occupies. I had the winter prix fixe menu ($35) and chose a sushi roll appetizer and curried tiger shrimp for the main course, and the chocolate soufflé for desert. (We also shared a plate of kung pao calamari which was roundly declared delicious.) The menu notes that the soufflé takes at least 20 minutes to prepare, but it was well worth it. Imagine a small cocoa colored tower, with a ring of raspberry filling around the edge of the plate. Cutting into the tower reveals it is made of hot dark chocolate, that layers itself over the fork and out onto the plate. This makes it convenient to move the fork along the plate, through the raspberry ring and up to the mouth. Yes, it tasted as sinful as it looked, with a consistency of mousse, and endless waves of dark chocolaty goodness.

Fast forwarding past some Harry Potter films, the next day saw dinner at a Thai restaurant, where my cousin and I shared a plate of ginger shrimp, and she opted for a fish dinner whose name escapes me for the moment. I had salmon stuffed with crabmeat, with a flavorful brown sauce accented by coconut.

Shut up. Just shut up. Excuse me while I have a Stingo-induced foodgasm.

Now I can't remember what else I was going to say.

LadyNoir · 03-03-2008, 10:36 PM

What are suitcase deadlifts? Is it the grip?

Ahh 300. Before I ever saw it all I ever heard from my girlfriends was the "abs". LOL! Yup

LisaS · 03-03-2008, 11:12 PM

suitcase DL - the bar (or DB) is loaded and on the floor to one side of you. Squat down, grip and lift up - like a suitcase. challenges your core to stay straight while all the weight is on the one side.

stingo · 03-04-2008, 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyNoir

What are suitcase deadlifts? Is it the grip?

Ahh 300. Before I ever saw it all I ever heard from my girlfriends was the "abs". LOL! Yup

Actually I understand that the 300 workout was actually more of a test to see how the actors had come along in their strength/conditioning. They actually did other workouts to get their ript abz.

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Originally Posted by LisaS

suitcase DL - the bar (or DB) is loaded and on the floor to one side of you. Squat down, grip and lift up - like a suitcase. challenges your core to stay straight while all the weight is on the one side.

Indeed - in my case though I've got DBs on both sides. Whether that changes the exercise name, I'm not sure, but Tim called them suitcase deadlifts, so that's the name I used.

mel · 03-04-2008, 07:22 AM

Hey Tom! Sorry you had a slip up, but I'm so happy to see that you learned from it and you are heading back to the gym! You've made SO much progress and are still moving in the right direction!

mel

stingo · 03-04-2008, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by mel

Hey Tom! Sorry you had a slip up, but I'm so happy to see that you learned from it and you are heading back to the gym! You've made SO much progress and are still moving in the right direction!

mel

Hi Mel,

I'm not sure I'd call it a slip-up as that (to me) implies the situation was accidental. It wasn't - rather more like flirting with dark side. But having experienced what that does to my workouts is the takeaway lesson. Nutrition may be 80% of results, but for me at least, workout performance is what mainly controls nutrition.

Lost Dog · 03-04-2008, 08:28 AM

I did enjoy the movie 300, but I love Gladiator. However, I love it despite the gore. The gore in Gladiator is real gore, vs comic book gore in 300, so I wince at Gladiator a lot.

Gladiator has a great story and is all about the honor. Again, 300 is the comic book version of honor. It's there, but I don't know that you come away from 300 having learning a real lesson about honor.

If you don't like gore, try Gladiator anyway. It is gruesome, but it serves a purpose to the movie.

I know you weren't really comparing the two, per se. But for those who haven't seen them, I highly recommend Gladiator, but alas, there's not Gladiator workout.

I really liked To Have and Have Not, too. I might have to rent that again. But, I love Casablanca. No workout for that one, either...

stingo · 03-04-2008, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by nutbar

I've seen neither Gladiator or 300. But I did see a (bio-type) movie within the past couple of years about Frida. Of course, I'm sure the movie took liberties telling her story and couldn't be nearly as in-depth as I would have liked, but I was fascinated nonetheless.

Are you talking about the film starring Salma Hayek? If so, from the sounds of it, they got it pretty much right. My cousin actually visited the Blue House while traveling in Mexico and said that the one used in the film (we didn't know if it was the real location or a stage set) looked exactly like what she saw.

stingo · 03-04-2008, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Lost Dog

I did enjoy the movie 300, but I love Gladiator. However, I love it despite the gore. The gore in Gladiator is real gore, vs comic book gore in 300, so I wince at Gladiator a lot.

Gladiator has a great story and is all about the honor. Again, 300 is the comic book version of honor. It's there, but I don't know that you come away from 300 having learning a real lesson about honor.

If you don't like gore, try Gladiator anyway. It is gruesome, but it serves a purpose to the movie.

I know you weren't really comparing the two, per se. But for those who haven't seen them, I highly recommend Gladiator, but alas, there's not Gladiator workout.

I really liked To Have and Have Not, too. I might have to rent that again. But, I love Casablanca. No workout for that one, either...

I agree - Gladiator was simply the better film. And though gory, the gore served the purpose of underlining just how brutal these contests were. 300 was more like the Monty Python satire of Sam Peckinpah, where blood gushes just about any time a character moves. Not to say that 300 didn't have its moments, but Gladiator's Maximus was a deeper character than 300's Leonidas.

To Have and Have Not was entertaining, but Casablanca to me is clearly the better movie. In a way the former shows us what sort of film Casablanca would be if it had a similar ending.

stingo · 03-04-2008, 09:10 PM

A good class today - glad to get back into the swing of things. Even though I'm feeling the effects of Monday's workout today, moreso than I did the other times I've done it. I'm guessing the lack of protein/exercise has something to do with it.

nutbar · 03-04-2008, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by stingo

Are you talking about the film starring Salma Hayek? If so, from the sounds of it, they got it pretty much right. My cousin actually visited the Blue House while traveling in Mexico and said that the one used in the film (we didn't know if it was the real location or a stage set) looked exactly like what she saw.

Yep, that was it but it was also followed by a documentary about her as well. Glad to hear it wasn't completely Hollywooded!