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Old 06-14-2008, 10:52 AM   #271 (permalink)
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and by "here" of course I meant in my log -
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:26 AM   #272 (permalink)
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That's what I'm saying...

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Old 06-14-2008, 04:24 PM   #273 (permalink)
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Just posting to check my numbers and remember what I was thinking.
I'll round the numbers from my actuals to make this easier.

Plan:
BMR: 1700 by calculation
just activities of a sedentary day (no explicit workouts) multiplier: 1.2
likely Active MR (AMR) 1700 * 1.2 = 2040
planned target daily cals: 1200
expected daily deficit: 840
840 * 7 = 5880 kcals which predicts a loss of 1.68 lb/wk (assuming 3500 kcal to the lb, all wt fat, etc.)

Actuals (mid-cycle, not skewed by any initial water drop days)
7 day average intake: 1185 (not including fish oil each day ~80 kcal)
7 day average (and actual) loss: 0.4 lb per day
calculated deficit for this loss rate: 1400 per day (same assumptions)

[note: I'm really comfortable with this food intake, energy levels and rate of loss]

So it would seem that the actual AMR is more like 2500-2600 not 2040. If 1.2 multiplier is appropriate, this puts BMR around 2083 (using the 2500 number).
Or, if the 1700 is accurate, then multiplier should be 1.47 (using 2500). Not likely - this is a sedentary period. Or some combination thereof.
I find that interesting, especially what it implies for calories I was eating when holding at this weight, but I digress.

That said, here's the new question. .

In theory, if I choose to add some activity, estimated around 300 kcal expended and also add 300 kcal food for each session, (and no concomitant reduction in NEAT) the deficit should remain the same and weight loss (assuming no fluid retention for inflammation or other confounder) should continue at the same rate.
Right?

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Old 06-14-2008, 06:06 PM   #274 (permalink)
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and by "here" of course I meant in my log -
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I'd like to official clam to be on the shiny golden side of the equation.
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Old 06-15-2008, 03:35 PM   #275 (permalink)
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Tracking:
This week: -3.8 lb
MTD: -7 lb
Since 6/1: -7 lb

energy: good

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Old 06-15-2008, 03:56 PM   #276 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by LisaS View Post
Just posting to check my numbers and remember what I was thinking.
I'll round the numbers from my actuals to make this easier.

Plan:
BMR: 1700 by calculation
just activities of a sedentary day (no explicit workouts) multiplier: 1.2
likely Active MR (AMR) 1700 * 1.2 = 2040
planned target daily cals: 1200
expected daily deficit: 840
840 * 7 = 5880 kcals which predicts a loss of 1.68 lb/wk (assuming 3500 kcal to the lb, all wt fat, etc.)

Actuals (mid-cycle, not skewed by any initial water drop days)
7 day average intake: 1185 (not including fish oil each day ~80 kcal)
7 day average (and actual) loss: 0.4 lb per day
calculated deficit for this loss rate: 1400 per day (same assumptions)

[note: I'm really comfortable with this food intake, energy levels and rate of loss]

So it would seem that the actual AMR is more like 2500-2600 not 2040. If 1.2 multiplier is appropriate, this puts BMR around 2083 (using the 2500 number).
Or, if the 1700 is accurate, then multiplier should be 1.47 (using 2500). Not likely - this is a sedentary period. Or some combination thereof.
I find that interesting, especially what it implies for calories I was eating when holding at this weight, but I digress.

That said, here's the new question. .

In theory, if I choose to add some activity, estimated around 300 kcal expended and also add 300 kcal food for each session, (and no concomitant reduction in NEAT) the deficit should remain the same and weight loss (assuming no fluid retention for inflammation or other confounder) should continue at the same rate.
Right?

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In theory, everything adds up. In reality... rarely.
I mean, just being a pre-menopausal woman is a confounder all by its lonesome...

I do hope you keep up your posting, Lisa. In your own log, too, that is.

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Old 06-15-2008, 04:21 PM   #277 (permalink)
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and by "here" of course I meant in my log -
my words on the rest of the forum are pure gold
Looks more like a pinkish peach from here.

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That said, here's the new question. .

In theory, if I choose to add some activity, estimated around 300 kcal expended and also add 300 kcal food for each session, (and no concomitant reduction in NEAT) the deficit should remain the same and weight loss (assuming no fluid retention for inflammation or other confounder) should continue at the same rate.
Right?
On paper anyway. Until you add in what type of workout, additional stressors and nitpicky changes from it all, digestive crap, etc, etc, etc.

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In theory, everything adds up. In reality... rarely.
I mean, just being a pre-menopausal woman is a confounder all by its lonesome...

I do hope you keep up your posting, Lisa. In your own log, too, that is.

Yeah, what she said.
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Old 06-16-2008, 12:22 PM   #278 (permalink)
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Old 06-16-2008, 12:23 PM   #279 (permalink)
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Old 06-16-2008, 02:08 PM   #280 (permalink)
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Bad Lisa. You have so much valuable knowledge crammed into that oversized brain of yours and I love seeing how you apply it to your own life. Bad, bad Lisa.

Not that you should feel any pressure or anything...
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Old 06-16-2008, 02:13 PM   #281 (permalink)
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Good job on the weight loss!!
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Old 06-16-2008, 02:13 PM   #282 (permalink)
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thanks Greg -
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Old 06-25-2008, 08:21 AM   #283 (permalink)
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Hey! Congrats on the lost poundage...I've been lurking for awhile...thought I'd chime in!
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Old 07-08-2008, 01:05 PM   #284 (permalink)
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sorry haven't been here much - thanks "sidonia"

I just re-found this IronMaven video link - I love this video - so thought I'd drop it in my log so that at least I'd remember where it is.
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:12 AM   #285 (permalink)
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Iron Maven is the bomb ... my girls were just watching this over my shoulder ... they wanted to know all about it!! Cool!!
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Old 07-09-2008, 01:42 PM   #286 (permalink)
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Cool video Lisa

Congratulations on the Losses too!
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Old 07-09-2008, 06:03 PM   #287 (permalink)
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so, I loved