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Old 06-13-2005, 09:35 PM   #1 (permalink)
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That's quite a challenge for most people. I think I'd only have problems with the one handed pullup. Although I've never tried it yet.
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The one handed pull up would do me in. I tried one at the retreat and couldn't do it.

I wonder who here could complete this list?
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The one handed pull up would do me in. I tried one at the retreat and couldn't do it.

I wonder who here could complete this list?
I could do 2, 3 and 4 definitely (I'm 28). #5 I've never tried but I may have a shot at. #1 no chance for me. I could maybe pull out 15.
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I can't even do a 2 handed pull-up, let alone 32 of the dang things!

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The one handed pull up would do me in. I tried one at the retreat and couldn't do it.
JP was the only one in the room who even came close (to make it harder, it was a neutral grip single arm pullup). Even Berardi, Johnka, and Chad shied away from this (JB did try, to his credit, and Chad looked like he was going to try until he thought better of it while everyone was looking [img]smile.gif[/img] ). Kudos to JP. Next year JP, I'll be in climbing shape and able to do it!
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The one handed pull up would do me in. I tried one at the retreat and couldn't do it.
JP was the only one in the room who even came close (to make it harder, it was a neutral grip single arm pullup). Even Berardi, Johnka, and Chad shied away from this (JB did try, to his credit, and Chad looked like he was going to try until he thought better of it while everyone was looking [img]smile.gif[/img] ). Kudos to JP. Next year JP, I'll be in climbing shape and able to do it! [/quote]What about you Kaiser? Im sure you were busting them out all day.
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1-4 yes, but I've gotta try the one handed pullup tonight.

You mean JB, lean and strong as HE is couldn't do one? How bout the D train?
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The one handed pull up would do me in. I tried one at the retreat and couldn't do it.

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I could do 2, 3 and 4 definitely (I'm 28). #5 I've never tried but I may have a shot at. #1 no chance for me. I could maybe pull out 15. [/quote]It doesnt say to do all of those chins consecutively. You could do 15 and then rest and hit the other 13.

Whats a pegboard? Im not sure if that is hard or not.

I think I could do all of it except the one arm chin and pegboard since I dont know what it is.
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GQ, didn't you have phy-ed in junior high? I always had to do those pegboard tests. It's pretty much like doing a chin - pulling yourself up by putting the wooden pegs in the holes.

I'd actually like one in the living room now. Would be a good to see how many times one could go up & down during commercial breaks.
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At one time that would have been easier to pull off...but not now. [img]tongue.gif[/img] When I was 26 I could do 3 one arm pull ups, though I was like 137# then. [img]tongue.gif[/img] I lived on my bike, cycling 25 to 50 miles/day, doing centuries on weekends.

Got into climbing, which was a blast. Er, it was a blast until some a**hat drunk pulled in front of me, no activity for weeks, no cycling for 6 months and no climbing for much longer, that sort of killed my fitness level. Oh well.
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This really come down to goals. I'm not too impressed with someone who can do 100 pushups and 50 dips. I would much rather brag about doing 5-8 dips with 135lbs hanging from my waist, or do 20 pushups with a 80lb X-vest on. That would be 10x more impressive to me.
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By "true one-handed" pull-up would he not mean the kind where you grab the bar with one hand and your wrist with the other? those are tough enough. I can't imagine- gonna pactice, though.
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This really come down to goals. I'm not too impressed with someone who can do 100 pushups and 50 dips. I would much rather brag about doing 5-8 dips with 135lbs hanging from my waist, or do 20 pushups with a 80lb X-vest on. That would be 10x more impressive to me.
I tend to agree. I can do my age (27) in dips weighted with a 45lb plate easy. Two plates would be tough though. About the only exercise that would be hard is the 1 hand pullup. I've been adding more and more weight to my pullups so maybe I'm close to being able to do a 1 hander [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Yeah, so....

Can any of you all do this?



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Wow Og. That's some crazy grip strength.
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I did 12x4 dips with a 25# plate today...(supersetted it with 12 x 4 chins with +10)

My last 4 dips were killer for me...so I have a ways to go before I'll be dipping with 45# plates.

I love dips...I endure chins.
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yeah that is some crazy grip strength. Obviously not be in the photo. I just though it was a cool feat of strength!

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I credit heavy dips with finally pushing my 1rm on the bench to over 300lbs. I quit doing direct tricep work months ago and just do close grip bench presses and weighted dips as the closest thing to direct tricep work. I'm really working hard on my weighted pullups and chinups now. When I can do those with a 45lb plate I'll be happy...(at least till I think of my next goal)
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Relative strength has always fascinated me.

In the old days of strength training, standing military pressing your own body weight was a standard in strength. Well, I cannot strict standing military press my own body weight so I have a lot of work to do. It's kind of a shame overhead pressing has lost in popularity dramatically to bench pressing. I think it should be equal or if not overhead pressing supreme.

I am really into the sport of powerlifting but I equally care about overhead pressing (military or push press), horizontal pulling (pendlay row), vertical pulling (pull-ups), dips, and core strength as to the big three (squat, dead, bench). It's all about being strong and powerful...in everything. I am just now starting to develope interest and demand for power training, training to be explosive, increase the rate at which my muscle fibers blast off which I feel is equally important to maximal strength. There is way too much fun to be had in strength training.

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Shoudn't you get a break as you get older after some point. What are you planning for your 60th?
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Hey EastCoast...do you think that actually doing the weighted dips improved your bench? Or visa versa?

My present routine only has me doing inclined DB bench work. No regular BB benching. I'm hoping that by all the other work I'm doing I will see improvement in my bench press. I've def got stronger on incline DB benching. My work weight has went from 40# DB's to 60# DB's in just 5 weeks. I'm wondering how that will translate once I finally do some benching.
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I can't prove if they helped or vice versa. All I know is that my workout partner *was* stronger in bench than I was, but he doesn't really care for dips and will often skip putting weight on them. For some reason I love dips and pile on as much weight as I can and still do 3 sets of 8-10.

I would think your incline DB work should translate pretty well into flat BB benching as long as your intensity is high. I can only speak about how I know my body would react though.
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Even if the benchmark was some number (let's say 75) minus my age (or half my age for the push-ups), I would fail miserably.

Damn, I've got a lot of catching up to do.
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Personally I think there are harder tests, this one is definately age biased.

So you want me to do 25 pull-ups, 50 push-ups, 25 dips, climb up a pegboard twice. All I could easily do in 25 minutes. I might have trouble with the true one handed pull-ups, but this exercise will be a lot harder for people over 200lbs.

I'm only 175 so I am not making any excuses, but I think there are a lot harder individuals out there than me, which tells me even if i could do 5 I would have nothing to "bragg" about. I am one who believes bragging will bring an individual down and I'm not one to be happy with current achievements, looking forward to future ones.
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Okay, tried this last night and I have to say...THATS HARD!

I got 1 inch off the groud and slipped.

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