T-Nation: Yep. Speaking of deadlifts, there used to be a running joke on the forum about them. Whenever someone posted their pic, a dozen people would jump on and say "You need to deadlift!" Funny thing is, you never see anyone doing it in the gym. Like you mentioned above, the average person thinks the deadlift is just for football players and powerlifters. So, why exactly should the recreational gym-goer (even females) be pulling big iron?
EC: There are several reasons that come to mind. Here goes…
1. You can train hip and knee extension together, but without the technical learning curve of Olympic lifts. I'm not trying to start an argument on the value of Olympic lifting; it's pretty obvious that the O-lifts work quite well. Unfortunately, they aren't as easily taught as the deadlift, so the deadlift (which is actually an early stage in the progression to O-lifts) is a great option for most individuals who are looking to train double extension, which is a common movement scheme.
2. Absolute load is very high. You're going to be able to lift a lot more weight on deadlifts than you are on some silly attempt at isolation, so the overall muscle mass recruited will be greater. Excess post-exercise oxygen consumption (EPOC) will be greater with more muscle mass recruited, and as a result, your metabolic rate after the session will be higher than with isolation exercises.
3. Deadlifts offer a lot of wiggle room in terms of training for various goals. You can pull very light (~30% 1RM) with high velocity for speed-strength, in the middle range (45-70% 1RM) for strength-speed, or with heavy weights for maximal strength. You can add bands, chain, and weight releasers, and do any of a number of variations (various grips, stance widths, pulls from deficits, pulls from blocks/pins, etc.)
4. Deadlifts offer a greater functional carryover than leg curls. While knee flexion is certainly an important movement in daily activities and in sport, leg curls on machines that restrict you to a fixed line of motion always leave a bit to be desired. Training hip extension tends to give you the best carryover in the shortest amount of time.
5. Pulling heavy deadlifts will make your upper back beeeeeeg. The upper back musculature tends to respond to heavy isometric work (as in deadlifting) more than any other location in the body.
6. Dip, grip, and rip. Has there ever been a more eloquent way of expressing efficiency in training? Variations of the deadlift will allow you to get in and out of the gym in a short amount of time while still allowing you to optimize your progress.
7. Women dig calluses…or at least that's what I keep telling myself.
For those of you who don't know, Cressey is a deadlift machine. He mentions in the interview that he has pulled 556.5 lbs in the 165 lb weight class!
Originally posted by Adam H.: For those of you who don't know, Cressey is a deadlift machine. He mentions in the interview that he has pulled 556.5 lbs in the 165 lb weight class!
If he can do it, so can I
230lbs in the weight 150lbs class (if that exists)
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Because even if you're a little skinny sissy boy you can load the bar up with 45's PLUS and start moving it around Nothing lifting a bar loaded with 45's to make stick-boy feel manly.
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Weight: 155lbs
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Height: 5'9
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Max squat: ?
Max deadlift: 225x5
Max bench: 115x5
Uhhhhh...let's see i only got 281.5 pounds to go till i catch him in the same weight class!!! sweet...i will do that one day-that's no lie.
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Funny thing is, you never see anyone doing it in the gym.
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That's a true statement. I have gone to the gym 3 times a week for more than a year and a half and have NEVER seen anyone other than myself doing deadlifts.
quote:Originally posted by Adam H.: For those of you who don't know, Cressey is a deadlift machine. He mentions in the interview that he has pulled 556.5 lbs in the 165 lb weight class!
If he can do it, so can I
230lbs in the weight 150lbs class (if that exists) [/quote]YES!! We're neck and neck!
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quote:Originally posted by Adam H.: For those of you who don't know, Cressey is a deadlift machine. He mentions in the interview that he has pulled 556.5 lbs in the 165 lb weight class!
If he can do it, so can I
230lbs in the weight 150lbs class (if that exists) [/quote]YES!! We're neck and neck! [/quote]Wanna race to 300lbs?
I've got some grip problems so you'll have a head start [img]tongue.gif[/img]
Hey I'll race y'all !!! I'm not quite there yet cuz I've barely been deadlifting for a month but I can probably grind out 170 for 4 reps so... [img]tongue.gif[/img] Don't have much of a shot but it could still be good motivation to race! We could start a skinny bastard deadlift race thread
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Weight: 155lbs
Age: 18
Height: 5'9
Bodyfat: ~12%
Max squat: ?
Max deadlift: 225x5
Max bench: 115x5
I'll race you guys. We can race to pulling twice our bodyweights. I'll go to 320 (2x my weight-160) while you guys go to 300. Deal?
I'm at 250 for multiple reps at the moment. Hopefull around a 260 1RM
So, are we set?
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Ouch Kev, just saw your post... that's gonna be a tough one. Right now I'm just aiming to load the bar up with 4 plates and look all manly. From there, the possibilites are endless
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Weight: 155lbs
Age: 18
Height: 5'9
Bodyfat: ~12%
Max squat: ?
Max deadlift: 225x5
Max bench: 115x5
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"Don't spend your life wishing. Spend it doing." -FishrCutB8
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Im 134LBS and pull 210. I got some training to do!
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You never see them done in a gym because there are so many confused guys who do them backwards. Instead of standing over the bar and lifting, they get under the bar and push it up. LOL
My best so far: 330 for 2 reps.
My most recent deadlift fest: Last Thursday, 10 sets, 5 reps, 265 pounds. When you add it up and realize you have lifted about 7 tons in a half hour, it feels sooooo good.
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I saw a guy doing romanians or stiff legged ones one day. I honestly couldn't tell you which.
His form was picture perfect. I just saw an exact picture of a guy doing them the same way on t-nation that day before.
Pitty it was illustrating how NOT to do them.
In the last year and a half I have never seen a deadlift, a few squats. Of course I am only there 3 hours a week or so. I am sure when I leave everyone starts deadlifting.
Og.
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well fortunately my mainstream gym is full of really huge guys that lift weights like real men.
i see guys doing deadlifts, squats, lunges and dips all the time. it's great. just today i saw 2 guys shoulder pressing 165 or 185 lbs for rep...WTF!!!
my best ever was in H.S. junior year (5 years ago)
deadlift: 385lbs 1RM
squat: 375lbs 1RM
the race to pulling a 2x your bodyweight deadlift is on!!!
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LOL shark-same here-i'm this tall skinny kid who can barely put any muscle on. The only place i have some decent size is my calves (like 14.5" i think and arms 12.5" i think) Other than that, i have no mass on my chest or back, and my quads and hammies aren't that big. But that's ok, cause i can pick up 250 pounds of metal off the ground...multiple times, unlike most of the kids my size and bigger [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Kevin... isn't it weird being able to move weight but not actually put any on!? I've come to terms with it, but man am I envious of people who dont' have to eat the equivalent of an entire elephant in food each to day to gain a measely 1-lb per week!
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Originally posted by Kevin T.: LOL shark-same here-i'm this tall skinny kid who can barely put any muscle on. The only place i have some decent size is my calves (like 14.5" i think and arms 12.5" i think) Other than that, i have no mass on my chest or back, and my quads and hammies aren't that big. But that's ok, cause i can pick up 250 pounds of metal off the ground...multiple times, unlike most of the kids my size and bigger [img]smile.gif[/img]
Well, I don't really have problems with putting on muscle as long as I can put on weight. And ofcourse that doesn't happen so I'm not big either. But unlike you, my calves are the only place where I have problems putting on muscles [img]smile.gif[/img] lucky me
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