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Old 06-06-2005, 12:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Im currently doing "full body fat loss" by Joel Marion(same guy who did RRD)...I have my workout set up, and he (Joel) said it looked straight..but then someone pointed out it could be overtraining, as Im doing military press on Monday's workout (3x5) and inclined bench on Tuesday's workout (3x12)..then the same on Thur Im doing flat bench (3x5) and then dips on Fri (3x12)...I didnt even realize it, but it is working out the same group 2 days in a row...but with different rep protocals and possibly different fibers (fast/slow)..do you think it would work or is it possibly overtraining? Here is the workout that I set up, and the link for the actual workout(as you can see, my set up falls under the guidelines)

Mon 3x5 (superset A1 & A2, then B1 & B2)

A1 Military press
A2 Squats

B1 Pullups
B2 Romainian Deads

Tues 3x12 (superset A1-A4)

A1 Inclined Bench (dumbbells)
A2 Lunges
A3 Seated Rows
A4 Weighted Back Extensions

Thurs 3x5

A1 Flat Bench
A2 Calves

B1 Bentover Rows
B2 Romanian Deads

Fri 3x12

A1 Dips
A2 Squats
A3 Chins
A4 back extensions

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Old 06-06-2005, 01:48 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Lateral raises instead of military presses?

Eric Cressey is always saying they are the only direct shoulder work you need anyway.
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Old 06-06-2005, 02:28 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What did Joel say about overtraining?
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Old 06-06-2005, 03:35 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Well I asked on the post, but am still waiting for his reply.
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Old 06-06-2005, 04:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Well I asked on the post, but am still waiting for his reply.
If he said it looked good from the outset then you dont need to worry about overtraining. It is a long term phenomenon and highly individual. Sometimes you have to stop thinking so much about what might happen and spend some time under the bar to figure out what actually does happen. What might be overtraining for some may be optimal for others.

Ill answer your question anyway though: you are not doing to toom uch volume. By that setup, youre doing four pressing movements in four days. Many people do 4 pressing movements in one day. So instead of having a pressing day, pulling day, lower pushing, and lower pulling day, your working the same planes throughout the week. Its just another way of orgainizing things.
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Old 06-06-2005, 04:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Ok cool, I appreciate it..I guess where I was confused was if you do military press, then the following day you do bench, you would hit shoulders and tris 2 days in a row, and thats why the "poster" brought that to my attention.

But I suppose Joel knows more than me (and the other poster) so I will just do it and see what happens.
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Old 06-07-2005, 04:37 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I don't think u'r overtraining ur muscles. If u'r doing Chad Waterbury's workouts, u'll be training the same muscle groups up to six times per week. U can work the same muscle groups multiple times weekly as long as u change the set/rep schemes so that the next workout can actually give u faster recovery.
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Old 06-07-2005, 09:57 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Ok thats what I was trying to understand...thank you, that makes sense.
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