Not good. Increased risk on shoulders and stress on neck. Most people don't need more of either.
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Some people can do that variation of the exercise w/o pain for years on end, while others are in pain almost immediately from lighter weights.
What's more: doing the exercise that way might end up with an injury.
Risk versus benefit. This is how the gym where I train views all exercise choices...
This is one the head trainer feels so strongly about that he actually does not permitted it by anyone in the gym (even people not in training). He just doesn't want to see it.
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Hah... that's too funny as MY trainer couldn't bear to see me do a goodmorning out of the hole, yet has no qualms about having people do a lat pull down in their neck.
Different strokes ... (or let me say.. old skool vs new skool)
But again, if I were a PT, I'd tell people not to do them as the benefits really aren't big.
I like the way behind the necks with a really wide grip feel and did them for years without injury. That being said, they don't make much sense if you buy into the idea that complex exercises with more weight are better than isolating muscles and less weight.
You have to *be careful* with them.....don't go for maxes, controlled movements, don't do when fatigued at end of workout, etc....However they are beneficial
Generally I find the taboo on behind the shoulders exercises harmful for encouraging open shoulder mobility (one of the keys along with anterior shoulder strength to keeping healthy shoulders while actively bench pressing, in my experience).
i always understood them to be pretty bad and they also put you at greater risk of injury; as mentioned a few times above they are pretty risky.
i never liked them in truth and always prefereed the front pull down, but what makes me cringe is the weight you see some of these people trying to lift/pull which gives them shocking form, they are usesing far to much weight!
control the weight dont let the weight control you!
Generally I find the taboo on behind the shoulders exercises harmful for encouraging open shoulder mobility (one of the keys along with anterior shoulder strength to keeping healthy shoulders while actively bench pressing, in my experience).
Shoulder mobility is the key here. If you haven't got it you shouldn't be doing things that push you into injury. Some people simply have to work on their flexibility while others are mechanically/genetically incapable (kyphosis + round rib cage + short clavicles = a no no).
Are these dangerous?
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