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Old 04-09-2003, 05:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Greetings,

Triceps have always been a weak area for me and I've never been able to find a workout I like. Suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I know my way around a gym (I used to be a real gym rat), but I'm trying to get myself in shape after a rather long...er...hiatus.

So, I'm kind of a beginner, but kind of not. I've been back in the gym regularly now for about a week and a half. Christ, everything's gone to mush!

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Old 04-09-2003, 06:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 04-18-2003, 05:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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CALLING TONY SOPRANO!!!

Did you read the referenced material above??? I read the first two and couldn't wait to write this.

Did you notice that they said to go BELOW PARALLEL!?! In fact, the first one said, if you don't, go back to collecting stamps or something really motivating like that . So, I've been in the "don't go below parallel camp for a while now but seems that the "experts" feel otherwise for tricep dips!

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Old 04-18-2003, 06:28 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Quercus,
I go below parallel on triceps dips all the time when I do that exercise. If it bothers your shoulders, then don't do it. Just continue going parallel. I like the greater range of motion personally.
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Old 04-18-2003, 06:38 PM   #5 (permalink)
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CALLING TONY SOPRANO!!!

Did you read the referenced material above??? I read the first two and couldn't wait to write this.

Did you notice that they said to go BELOW PARALLEL!?! In fact, the first one said, if you don't, go back to collecting stamps or something really motivating like that . So, I've been in the "don't go below parallel camp for a while now but seems that the "experts" feel otherwise for tricep dips!

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Old 04-18-2003, 10:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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If it bothers your shoulders, then don't do it.
I just thought that going below parallel was a cause of shoulder problems. If not. I'll start going deeper but I haven't in the past because of not wantinng to create a problem.
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Old 04-19-2003, 11:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
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You really can't get the full benefit out of this exercise by just going to parallel. Not too deep though.


This isn't much below parallel, but that is about as deep as I would go.
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Old 04-19-2003, 11:48 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Triceps have always been a weak area for me and I've never been able to find a workout I like. Suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Triceps
close grip bench press, or dips 3 x 8, 6, 3-4
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overhead tricep extensions 1 x 8-12
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cable tricep pushdowns or rope ticeps extensions 1 x 8-12


This makes a nice combo!

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Old 05-01-2003, 09:22 AM   #9 (permalink)
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JP, do you have an alternative for the cable pushdown for somebody that works out at home? Thanks
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Buster... Have you tried these:

Tricep Kickback

Purpose of Exercise: To specifically develop your upper triceps.

Execution of Exercise: Take hold of a dumbbell, bend your knees slightly and with your free hand hold onto a bench or upright for balance. Start with your elbow at roughly shoulder height, keep your elbow as tight to your body as possible and let the dumbbell hang straight down below your elbow. Without moving your elbow straighten your arm by pushing the dumbbell back and up behind you. Make sure to hold for a second and squeeze your triceps hard in the finish position. Lower slowly and under control. Repeat for the desired number of reps and then do the same for the other arm.

Important Points: Do not move the dumbbell up and down in a jerky or uncontrolled manner as this exercise can place considerable stress on the elbow joint. Keep your back tight and look up at all times.

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Here is another good one. Don't know if this is recommended yet with your shoulder situation though. You may try these, but start really light and keep a hyper-awareness of what your body is telling you. We don't want you to have a setback.

SkullCrushers

Purpose of Exercise: To develop your triceps. This is a fundamental tricep exercise.

Execution of Exercise: Take a narrow over hand grip on an ez curl bar. Lie down on a flat bench, with your feet firmly on the floor. Start with your arms fully extended in line with your shoulders, keeping your upperarms motionless, slowly bend your elbows and allow the bar to travel down towards your nose/forehead in a motion that resembles a reverse arm curl. Once the bar makes 'light' contact with your nose/forehead use the strength of your triceps to return the bar to the starting position. Make sure to hold for a second and squeeze your triceps hard in the finish position.

Important Points: Do not move the bar up and down in a jerky or uncontrolled manner. Always use the assistance of a spotter on this exercise and ENSURE that their hands are under (and close to) the bar at all times to avoid painful and dangerous accidents. This exercise can be done with a straight bar and at an advanced level with dumbbells if you desire. Always be strict on this exercise and make sure your upper arms do not move at all.

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Sorry about that bro. Anyway skullcrushers used to be a part of my normal tricep work, but, I often wondered if these and overhead extensions were basically the same exercise. I have done the kickbacks in the past but never on an extended basis, so I'll give em a try for a couple weeks. ( I know,I know slow and easy). Thanks man.
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Old 05-02-2003, 06:58 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Excellent! This gives me plenty of new exercises to try!

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This is probably elementary, but I'm a little confused. I was reading about the tricep dips and how it's recommened to go just past parallel to get the best results. . . but if the action of the tricep is to extend the forearm, it seems to me that changing the position of the arm (past parallel) will not stress the tricep, but will stress the anterior joint capsule of the shoulder.
I would think to get the best isolation of the triceps, the arm should be stabilized and the only movement should be forearm.

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Never mind the previous post. . . I had a total brain fart.

The biomechanics make sense, but there does seem to be a lot of stress on the anterior joint capsule (similar to the stress on the knee when doing deep squats)
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