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Old 02-21-2005, 08:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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It reccomends 12-15 but can I lower it to my liking and still get a good work out. I seriosly Was workin g out around 6months ago and lost 20lbs currently( im still dieting). Right now im

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I still have the phase one routine in my head so its real easy and fun to do. So can I just do that workout. Im not seriosly weightlifiting anymore, just want to look good.
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Old 02-21-2005, 08:33 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Doesn't matter how many reps you do, you have to eat to get bigger. Reading in my MF mag and they say 8-10 reps for muscle and 4-6 for strength. You should eat like 2700+ calories a day.
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HGM Phase I is a cutting phase if i remember correctly, so i don't know if you could really use it to bulk.
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Old 02-21-2005, 11:15 PM   #4 (permalink)
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It is a cutting phase but if you lower the reps in any exercise you gain strength
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You are not going to gain more strength by just lowering reps. Maybe by lowering and raising the weight, but if you eat heartily and do the exercises, you should see some nice gains.

If anything, just lowering the reps will slow down progress.
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Old 02-22-2005, 12:05 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Obviosly if you lowered the reps you would be adding weight.

If you know anything about lifting the less reps the more weight.
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Old 02-22-2005, 12:27 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Obviosly if you lowered the reps you would be adding weight.

If you know anything about lifting the less reps the more weight.
be easy bro... not sure how you meant to come across, but ninja's just trying to help...

to answer your question, if you're trying to bulk, HGM probably isn't the routine for you.
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Old 02-22-2005, 12:42 AM   #8 (permalink)
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No offense taken. I wanted to make sure you had all the bases covered. Why would you use HGM to bulk if you were going to change the rep schemes?
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Doesn't matter how many reps you do, you have to eat to get bigger. Reading in my MF mag and they say 8-10 reps for muscle and 4-6 for strength. You should eat like 2700+ calories a day.
Well I am on Phase VII now and I used the first 4 weeks to cut then bulked on weeks 5-8. Once the first 4 weeks are done, then you drop the reps from 12-15 to 6-10. Do it like it is written and you won't be disappointed.
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Obviosly if you lowered the reps you would be adding weight.

If you know anything about lifting the less reps the more weight.
You can lift more weight and less reps, but if you don't eat you won't get big. If you eat big and lift, then you will get big. Work the muscle.
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Obviosly if you lowered the reps you would be adding weight.

If you know anything about lifting the less reps the more weight.
One COULD lower the reps without adding weight. Unless someone says they will be adding weight, how would you know for sure what they intend to do? Patience, young Jedi; one must not make assumptions and jump to conclusions.

That being said, generally if one seeking to build muscle by using heavier weights and lower reps, they also usually build in a bit more rest time so that they can continue to handle the heavier weight and thus stimulate the appropriate muscle fibers. If you jack up the weight and lower reps in a triad, and keep the rest periods short, then you are kind of defeating the purpose of lifting heavier to begin with. However, resting a minute between each exercise in the triad, and then between triads, would probably work OK. That, and more eating!
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I can't remember all of the exercises in phase 1, but I have often divided the quads (I did the advance) into supersets and used that workout when on the road. Since the exercises were almost all big compound lifts and easily divided into non-competing supersets, think you could make it into a decent bulking workout. To do that I would divide the exercises into supersets, decrease the reps to around 8, rest 2 minutes between sets. Oh yeah....EAT!
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Just keep the plan the same. It was design that way for a reason. All the other members have covered it really. If you want to doa bulking phase then go find a routine that suites your. desires.
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Also I dont want to be that big, I kind of want to look like A RB in the NFL. There big but there not bulky. I just want to look strong without being big.

Basicly i want to add about 20lbs of muscle.

So i dont want to get bulky i really want to be just a little bit thicker.
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I can't remember all of the exercises in phase 1, but I have often divided the quads (I did the advance) into supersets and used that workout when on the road. Since the exercises were almost all big compound lifts and easily divided into non-competing supersets, think you could make it into a decent bulking workout. To do that I would divide the exercises into supersets, decrease the reps to around 8, rest 2 minutes between sets. Oh yeah....EAT!
Yeah, do what Tim said. I was rushed earlier and didn't go into options, but with the heavier weight, breaking things down into the supersets is probably the best route.

BTW, football RB's ARE big, just not abnormally big like body builders. [img]tongue.gif[/img] I know what you mean.
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Also I dont want to be that big, I kind of want to look like A RB in the NFL. There big but there not bulky. I just want to look strong without being big.

Basicly i want to add about 20lbs of muscle.

So i dont want to get bulky i really want to be just a little bit thicker.
oh i love that! if only it were that simple, my friend! i'd be huge! [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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sharkbait i dont get it. want isnt that simple all I said was i wanted to add 20lbs of muscle thats my goal. If i dont look muscular i guess it doesnt matter because i know i am
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If i dont look muscular i guess it doesnt matter because i know i am
That last sentence doesn't make sense. Shark was referring to the fact that if you want to gain 20 lbs of muscle, it is going to take a lot of eating, most of it clean. And it will probably take you longer than you realize too.
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How easy did you think it was going to be?
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i was expecting around 6-7 months
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It could be possible, if you gained about 2.5 pounds a month. However, it won't allow for much slacking, and you may find that your metabolism won't let you put on all that mass.
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From John Berardi's site

"Phase 1: Hypertrophy Training

Goal: anabolism

Demands: high volume, high reps/time under tension (utilization of lactic acid energy system), high potential for overtraining

Supplement Goals: muscle growth, rapid recovery/prevention of overtraining (protein balance), rapid glycogen resynthesis
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