Argh.
The trainer in my gym doesn't have time to watch me every leg workout making sure my form is good in the beginning, and I have no idea where else I could find someone to critique my form and help me improve it up to a point where I can safely deadlift on my own knowing I'm doing it as safe as possible.
Who did you guys get to watch and correct you when you first started deadlifting? :\
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Weight: 155lbs
Age: 18
Height: 5'9
Bodyfat: ~12%
Max squat: ?
Max deadlift: 225x5
Max bench: 115x5
I watched the deadlift example at exrx.com, looked a pictures in mags/books and lift in front of a mirror.
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Nobody, the one trainer who tried to show me a deadlift showed me a straight leg deadlift. I watched videos, read instructions, and largely go by what feels right.
I am a self taught deadlifter. Start with light weights. Do them at the begining of every workout to get the form down. Work on progressivly getting heavier as well as working on the supporting muscles with other exercises.
Danny
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Hahaha, hey, I taught myself, I just couldn't see that my back was rounding and my hips were crazy tight. In my head I was doing it like I was supposed to.
Danny
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I watched videos, read a lot about the details, listened to Bill
But after a while, youll know when your doing a lifting correctly because youll have a moment where something happens that makes the lift seem so much easier. Sometimes when I snatch, theres a ground breaking rep where the bar just flies weightlessly and I think about what happened and try to reproduce. Only recently have I started make more strides in my squat. Yeah I knew about form and could squat 315, but to get passed that I needed to adjust my form and figure out when to fire what. So I use more glute and hip in my squat now than I ever have and my squats are better off for it.
The point is that its pretty easy to pick up the basic safe form from the sources abouve, but it will take a lot of time under the bar before you figure out how to squat correctly.
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Since we are talking about deadlifts, I was just wondering how you guys initiate the move? When I do DLs I always want to start out my pickin up the weight with my back...which I know is a big no-no. I have read articles that have said to start by tigheting your glutes and then feel as if you are pushing the ground with your feet. Any thoughts/trick/tips on this? Thanks.
Originally posted by Ken: Do you guys do Dls with legs or back?
What exactly do you mean? Obviously both are a large part of the lift... Are you asking if we do them specifically to train the back, or specifically for legs?
Do them on a leg day, not back day. While the back does get hit, look at the prime movers in the deadlift. All the movement is at the hips and knees. The muscles in the leg make the movement and the hips and knees possible. The back work is pretty much just isometric.
Danny
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I initiate with my glutes and hamstrings, and then power my legs through the floor and finish by drawing my shoulders back at the top.
I'll actually stand around before I start doing a slight squat, grab my glutes/hams (ie, hands on my butt) and practise activating them for when I lift.
Originally posted by DKing: Do them on a leg day, not back day. While the back does get hit, look at the prime movers in the deadlift. All the movement is at the hips and knees. The muscles in the leg make the movement and the hips and knees possible. The back work is pretty much just isometric.
Danny
I do DLs on my back day cus I I feel if I did both squats a DLs on my leg day it would be kinda overkill on the lower back. Also, DLs seem to fit into my back day and no other day of my workout split. Just my 2c.
But how do I know I'm doing it correctly? What if I'm missing something and I find out years later when I get some serious uncurable back problem? ;\
Well as long as we're here I might as well use the opportunity to ask some questions!
First of all, from what I understand you're supposed to keep the bar as close as possible to your body to reduce pressure on the lower back as much as possible - but when the bar goes below your knees and they bend, you have to move it a bit away from you to get it above the knee-line anyway (?) ;[
Also, should I be putting the bar down after each lift? I'm gonna start stiff-legged deadlifts so the bar won't be reaching the floor anyway.. :/
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Weight: 155lbs
Age: 18
Height: 5'9
Bodyfat: ~12%
Max squat: ?
Max deadlift: 225x5
Max bench: 115x5
I do deadlifts on my back day. They really focus on the middle of my back and lower back. If you wanna really use deadlifts for your legs then you will want to do stiff leg deadlifts. like I always say that is what works for me.
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