Hey Perryman: Tim Patterson has just whipped out his Anaconda and declared that it is worth $90 a bottle. I bet your inch-worm cowers in fear at even a sniff of the great T-nation snake!
And, unlike the first "I Bodybuilder" video, your book - I'm only 50 pages in - has yet to be make chuckle, snortle or suddenly add 2 inches to my triceps. Get on that!
You talk a big game here on JP's, yet your book ain't extreme, radical or mind-blowing... and I know you say you don't provide a generic program at the end of the book, but surely you secretly do have an ultra-black-ops muscle-swelling program laid out at the end for those of us hardcore enough to finish the book!
I'm assuming that since the book is free, you will be recommending the "PMDL Omega-17" and "PMDL Isoleucine 5000" softgels?
I heard Thibadeau's new program almost kills its test-subjects. So far your book is killing me too... from sheer lack of hyperbolic adjectives!
And you call yourself a trainer!
- I'm liking your book. You actually have good things to say when you take the time to think before you write! (I had to!)
And about that "black ops bodybuilding" thing.. black ops? seriously? They did this in secret behind enemy lines? What, did they go incognito in a strongman gym for their training?
That video is AWESOME, im so excited and pumped I would pay anything to get on this program..... 4 pages and im convinced, I think I added an inch just reading it..
and Ive read 10x that amount of Matt's book, and im just smarter..pfffft
That video is AWESOME, im so excited and pumped I would pay anything to get on this program..... 4 pages and im convinced, I think I added an inch just reading it..
That video is AWESOME, im so excited and pumped I would pay anything to get on this program..... 4 pages and im convinced, I think I added an inch just reading it..
and Ive read 10x that amount of Matt's book, and im just smarter..pfffft
I think it's BS about it costing $80. I asked this question, about how they could sell it at a loss. I was given the answer "look in the next paragraph" and it says that "going to find a way to optimise the production process". I think that the whole article is a complete and utter waste of words. Someone pointed out that their previous "amazing product" 11-T has it's discussion thread removed, and that was around the same price.
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sounds like an overloaded partial ROM workset, then move to the full ROM and do some reps with it, then post workout take some sugary goo.
the sugary goo is pre workout. EXTREME!
I'm wonderin gwhat the ingredients are in the stuff. We know there's hydrolized casein, which is pretty expensive (see peptopro) but not $90 for a couple pounds.
That's not too far out of the realm of T-BS possibility. A couple of years ago, Chris Shurgart wrote and article claiming that you can lose fat and gain muscle at the same time by doubling your dose of Surge.
is the whole deal here to be able to build muscle while working out? And to do that you just need to get high insulin levels while working out? Why the hell would you want that.. you don't want high insulin while working out, you don't want to store anything, you want energy for your workout. Besides, even with insulin, I don't really think protein synthesis would go up, the body switches off anabolism to use energy for exercise.. why would you do something as energy consuming as protein synthesis when you need energy for working out?
Or did I miss what the point with this super black ops thingy was?
is the whole deal here to be able to build muscle while working out? And to do that you just need to get high insulin levels while working out? Why the hell would you want that.. you don't want high insulin while working out, you don't want to store anything, you want energy for your workout. Besides, even with insulin, I don't really think protein synthesis would go up, the body switches off anabolism to use energy for exercise.. why would you do something as energy consuming as protein synthesis when you need energy for working out?
Or did I miss what the point with this super black ops thingy was?
The Bro-understanding of insulin seems to be what T-mag bases its supplement development process on.
Insulin, and by extension carb intake/blood glucose, does not positively affect protein synthesis at any stage of the process. Having full glycogen stores will limit protein breakdown and it will help curb inflammation (both mainly via AMPK's signal cascade), but in and of itself, neither carb intake nor insulin levels are inherently "anabolic" - and definitely not to the degree nor in the manner they're claiming.
The whole insulin and post-workout carb obsession is all based on the studies showing roughly a three trillion percent improvement in gains after taking a protein shake and/or AA+CHO shake post-workout. Sounds good, until you realize those studies were all done in fasting subjects. Protein loss is going to be maximized during a fast, and training during a fast makes it even worse temporarily. Of course a large hit of AA+CHO is going to massively reverse that.
If you're eating regularly, as anyone hoping to add muscle should be, those conditions simply don't apply. You'll have a constant supply of AA in the blood and relatively full glycogen stores, and thus neither the protein loss nor the resulting LOADED ANABOLIC SURGE!!!!! will be as substantial.
If they want to provide research citations to prove otherwise, great. I'm not holding my breath; they don't need research when they've got T-Hype(TM).
For my money, I get a good hit of fast-digesting whey before a session and then slow-acting protein (usually milk + whey) after. If I need extra carbs I throw in a little, but usually I'm fine without. If I were trying to gain weight I'd add some gatorade or something beforehand.
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I've actually become slightly obsessed with how the OCD sugar dosing scheme might affect the human body. It seems to be layering on different levels of different sugars so that they all peak about the same time, and then introducting protein during the workout. The maxed out regimen is at least 1500 cals or so, which might be in itself the reason for mass gain during the program. Dixie cups full of sugar might work as well.
The real bastard child in the regiment seems to be the surge recovery. The sugar in it could be replaced by their workout fuel, and the protein could be replaced by the much more expensive anaconda, so I'm guessing there was a lot of excess inventory that needed clearing out.
I am very interested to see the training regimen. Many of CT's schemes seem to be complicated. This could be space shuttle launch complicated.
PMDL: I'm calling you out!
(I had to!)
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