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Old 07-07-2009, 06:39 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I've spent the last year doing Cosgrove programs (NROL4W, Afterburn, WSFL and FL1). I've loved them but feel it is time to move on to something different.

I'm still interested in fat loss. Have about 10-15 pounds to go. I love exercising and workout 6 days a week. I currently do cardio-a mix of intervals and steady state--3-4 days a week. Looking for a 3 day a week weightlifting program.

I have Powerlifting but frankly, I'm not wild about olympic style lifting-mostly because I don't know how. I also have a desire to learn to build my own programs which is something I liked about Powerlifting.

I like fast paced workouts with back to back sets and cardio circuits in between-I can't seem to find anything like this (maybe it's not a good idea?). Most programs I come across have lots of rest and are geared towards men or are kinda lame girlie workouts. Maybe I don't know where to look.

I have explored getting a personal trainer but the ones I have talked to seem like they are only interested in session to session--not really helping me learn for the long term. For instance, I told this one trainer I would like to have a session 1x per week and pay him to write custom programs for me for the rest of the week. He said his handwriting wasn't very good and I should bring a notebook and write it down myself. I know this isn't every trainer in chicago-but since I could only afford a finite number of sessions I want to be able to take something away. Also, I pretty much like to workout by myself--though I have considered just getting a trainer to check my form on some lifts.

I would consider online training as well since these services are designed to build custom programs--any reccomendations? And how much does something like this cost? Has anyone used Eat, Train, Love?

Also interested in book recommendations. People have mentioned TT to me and Waterbury. I haven't bought either but wonder if these seem like a good fit for me.

FYI, for diet I am just coming off of WSFL. I am going more moderate right now with 1,300-1,400 calories and shooting for 40P/30F/30C. I am willing to modify my diet to accomodate a new training plan.

Ultimately, I would like to build enough knowledge to be able to make up my own workout plans and workouts on the fly. Right now, I don't have the confidence to do that. And I tend to get overwhelmed and overloaded by information--sometimes these boards freak me out for just that reason.

OK I'm not really painting a great picture of myself--but I am motivated in the gym and to learn just need some guidance!

Thanks for your help.
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Old 07-07-2009, 07:17 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Since you are interested in building your own programs, I'd say Power Training is a good fit for you. Each workout starts with an explosive movement. Just do one of the easier movements (ie Jump Squat, 1-arm DB Snatch). No need to learn o-lifting to do Power Training. But, it is a great program to learn how to pair up pushing/pulling and bi-uni exercises. All the tools and exercises are in there to guide you into setting up your own program.

ETA: I assumed you meant Power Training when you mentioned Powerlifting in your post. Maybe that's a completely different book you are referring to, though. Power Training is by Dos Remedios.
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I did mean power training. There were many things I did like about it. Thanks for your feedback! Any other suggestions?
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I did mean power training. There were many things I did like about it. Thanks for your feedback! Any other suggestions?
I just got that book about ten days ago. I'll be starting that program as well once my fat loss phase ends. That should be fairly soon. I'm excited about it. I felt the same way about Oly Lifts, but he give s a pretty clear progression starting with jump squats and high pulls. I feel confident that I can do it without risking injury.
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I bought this book and found it to be a great resource: http://www.optimumsportsperformance....ook-paypal.htm

I'd highly recommend using it to help you design a quality, time efficient program....I understand that Patrick offers online PT, and if he is half the online PT that he is an online question-answerer, he's worth what he charges
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I just got that book about ten days ago. I'll be starting that program as well once my fat loss phase ends. That should be fairly soon. I'm excited about it. I felt the same way about Oly Lifts, but he give s a pretty clear progression starting with jump squats and high pulls. I feel confident that I can do it without risking injury.
Just be careful with the o-lifting. I had been doing Power Training for several months and *thought* I was doing my o-lifts correctly.....that is, until I hired a strength coach. WRONG!! We spend WEEKS working on my form -- with no weight!! Hardest thing I've ever learned to do was o-lifting.
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Just be careful with the o-lifting. I had been doing Power Training for several months and *thought* I was doing my o-lifts correctly.....that is, until I hired a strength coach. WRONG!! We spend WEEKS working on my form -- with no weight!! Hardest thing I've ever learned to do was o-lifting.
Wow. I'm sure that I'll likely have some flaw in my form as well. But, if its something that might hold back performance without creating and injury risk I'm OK with that. Were your issues ones that would have likely resulted in injury?
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It's only a problem if you're going to learn oly lifting. Otherwise, stick to highpulls, db snatches and cleans, jump squats, power cleans, jump shrugs, etc. and it's no worries.
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