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Old 02-15-2005, 10:16 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I've heard about these calculations that teams do to figure out how powerful a person is based on their body weight and their results in certain strength tests. Does anyone have more information for me about this or something similiar? Also, does anyone know of an example of one of these calculations that they could post?

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Old 02-16-2005, 04:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi MSW,

Welcome to the forum. I'm not exactly sure what you're looking for, but this might be close--It's from a strength coach named Christian Thibaudea. Seems like it's geared toward more advanced lifters. If you ask me, even if you're near the bottom end of the "bodybuilder" ratios, you're still doing pretty well:


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1. Here are my personal numbers:

a) back squat

575lbs (close stance, upright trunk, butt to calves, nylon weight belt only) at 215lbs so a ratio of 2.67

b) front squat (full)

440lbs (same as above) at 215lbs so a ratio of 2.04

c) deadlift

575lbs (regular stance, nylon weight belt only) at 215lbs so a ratio of 2.67

d) stiff legged deadlift

Never maxed out, but have used 400lbs for sets of 5 on the romanian deadlift, which is similar)

e) barbell hack squat

N/A

f) power clean / hang clean

Power clean 352lbs x 1, hang clean 320lbs for 4 reps, hang squat clean 370lbs x 1 all of those were done at a bodyweight of 207lbs so respective ratios of 1.7 / 1.54 / 1.78

g) snatch

Power snatch 275lbs, full squat snatch 291lbs (with straps) at a bodyweight of 230lbs so respective ratios of 1.2 / 1.26

h) barbell bench press

415lbs (established 7 weeks ago) at a bodyweight of 212lbs so a ratio of 1.95

i) barbell split press (push press)

335lbs push press, 362lbs split jerk

Both done at a bodyweight of 223lbs so ratios of 1.5 / 1.62

What I consider average, strong and very strong:

2. Team sport athletes

a) back squat (proper/competiton type)
Average: 1.6 - 2.0
Strong: 2.1 - 2.5
Very strong: 2.6 +

b) front squat (full)
Average: 1.3-1.6
Strong: 1.7-2.0
Very strong: 2.1 +

c) deadlift
Average: 1.6 - 2.0
Strong: 2.1 - 2.5
Very strong: 2.6 +

d) stiff legged deadlift

No guidelines

e) barbell hack squat
No guidelines

f) power clean / hang clean
Average: 1.0 - 1.25
Strong: 1.3 - 1.5
Very strong: 1.6 +

g) snatch
Average: 0.7 - 0.9
Strong: 1.0 - 1.2
Very strong: 1.3 +

h) barbell bench press
Average: 1.25 - 1.5
Strong: 1.6 - 2
Very strong: 2.1 +

i) barbell split press (push press)
Average: 1.0 - 1.25
Strong: 1.3 - 1.5
Very strong: 1.6 +

3. Strength athletes:

a) back squat (proper/competiton type)
Average: 2.0 - 2.2
Strong: 2.3 - 2.8
Very strong: 2.9 +

b) front squat (full)
Average: 1.6-1.9
Strong: 2.0-2.2
Very strong: 2.3 +

c) deadlift
Average: 2.0 - 2.2
Strong: 2.3 - 2.8
Very strong: 2.9 +

d) stiff legged deadlift

No guidelines

e) barbell hack squat
No guidelines

f) power clean / hang clean
Average: 1.2 - 1.4
Strong: 1.5 - 1.8
Very strong: 1.9 +

g) snatch
Average: 1.0 - 1.2
Strong: 1.3 - 1.4
Very strong: 1.5 +

h) barbell bench press
Average: 1.5 - 1.7
Strong: 1.8 - 2.2
Very strong: 2.3 +

i) barbell split press (push press)
Average: 1.2 - 1.4
Strong: 1.5 - 1.8
Very strong: 1.9 +

4. Bodybuilders

a) back squat (proper/competiton type)
Average: 1.5 - 1.9
Strong: 2.0 - 2.4
Very strong: 2.5 +

b) front squat (full)
Average: 1.1-1.4
Strong: 1.5-1.8
Very strong: 1.9 +

c) deadlift
Average: 1.5 - 1.9
Strong: 2.0 - 2.4
Very strong: 2.5 +

d) stiff legged deadlift

No guidelines

e) barbell hack squat
No guidelines

f) power clean / hang clean
Average: 0.8 - 1.1
Strong: 1.2 - 1.3
Very strong: 1.4 +

g) snatch
Average: 0.6 - 0.8
Strong: 0.9 - 1.1
Very strong: 1.2 +

h) barbell bench press
Average: 1.3 - 1.6
Strong: 1.7 - 2.1
Very strong: 2.2 +

i) barbell split press (push press)
Average: 0.8 - 1.1
Strong: 1.2 - 1.3
Very strong: 1.4 +


Originally from the forums at www.t-nation.com Unfortunately, I don't have the specific link.
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Old 02-16-2005, 04:09 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Now this is some awesome shit. This is what I'm talking about, relative strength. Side not, all these numbers you see the 1.2, 2.9, etc, those are all multiples of your body weight. You take that and multiply it times your body weight to get the number you need for yourself. Just incase there was confusion.
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Old 02-16-2005, 04:50 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Damn, I'm not even in the average range for any of those categories. I think I have some work to do.
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