minimizing internal rotation in presses

[wtflestoppoules]

Hey guys,

I'd like to know what pressing (vertical and horizontal) exercises f**k the least up your scapulae and other stuff in the rotator cuffs for the internal rotation movements? Are dumbells better than barbells in that dimension?

Thanks in advance guys
Pat

**EDIT** Oh and, while we're at it, can someone explain to me how upright rows are bad for your shoulders? Are they not external rotation, thus helping put rounded shoulders back to their place?

[Chris Correia]

Originally posted by wtflestoppoules:
Hey guys,

I'd like to know what pressing (vertical and horizontal) exercises f**k the least up your scapulae and other stuff in the rotator cuffs for the internal rotation movements? Are dumbells better than barbells in that dimension?

Thanks in advance guys
Pat

**EDIT** Oh and, while we're at it, can someone explain to me how upright rows are bad for your shoulders? Are they not external rotation, thus helping put rounded shoulders back to their place?

I can't answer your first question; I'd be doing a lot of assuming. (Oh yeah, and the grammar police say it should be: " . . . least f**K up . . . " [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Re the upright rows, actually your arms are in an internally rotated position when performing those. Think about it: you roll your arms to the front/inward to perform the movement. In fact, you can't rotate them toward the front much more than that.

[wtflestoppoules]

OK Chris, thanks for the reply!

[Chris Correia]

Originally posted by wtflestoppoules:
OK Chris, thanks for the reply!

One thing I recall in a topic here a bit ago is that pressing with the palms turned to the front is harder on the shoulder. However, one might ease that by pressing with the palms facing inward. I know that seems to work for me.