Do I Really need the WHEY PROTEIN after my workout?

[ChickaboomGURL]

I usually take it first thing in the morning along with some water, oats, flaxeed oil, and calcium pill.

then i go and do my LIGHT weights and strengthening exercises for about 1 hour. Aren't those protein shakes meant for the bodybuilders who use heavy weights? I'm using like 3lbs here.

i then sprinkle some of the whey protein powder on my cereal.

My goal is gain muscle. I'm 15, 5'4, 118lbs. So should I just stop taking it? (my mom was talking to my aunt who used to bodybuild, and she said i shouldn't be taking it. it'll make fat! ) Do I really need the extra protein?

I do weights about 3x/week. The other days I do H.I.I.T. in the morning and i take the protein shake aswell. is that "right"?


Thanks,
Jenn

[poopy pants]

Aren't those protein shakes meant for the bodybuilders who use heavy weights?

No. Protein shakes are for anyone who wishes to add extra protein to his or her diet. You might as well say ‘chicken’ or ‘fish’ here, there’s nothing really special about the shakes other than they are ina liquid form.

My goal is gain muscle.

You’ll never gain muscle if you don’t injest adequate amounts of protein daily be it shakes or whole food.

I'm 15, 5'4, 118lbs. So should I just stop taking it? (my mom was talking to my aunt who used to bodybuild, and she said i shouldn't be taking it. it'll make fat! )

It will make you fat if you take in too many calories to begin with. What does the rest of your diet look like in a typical week?

Do I really need the extra protein?

If you are lifting weights and doing HIIT I’d say yes, and also, what does the mirror tell you?

I do weights about 3x/week. The other days I do H.I.I.T. in the morning and i take the protein shake aswell. is that "right"?

Sounds like a plan to me.

[chris_f]

too add to what tony said, if you're trying to gain muscle, why are you using such light, pitiful weights? Hit the iron!! [img]smile.gif[/img]

[dinabol]

I am convinced that every weightlifter should be on some form of protein supplementation.

[chris_f]

oops, double post! sorry!

[chris_f]

Dinabol, why do you say that? You can obtain the same nutrition supplement free if you so choose.

[dinabol]

If you go by the recomended 1 g/lb of bodyweight that would be an enourmous amount of meat. I don't have the time to make that many meals or the money. supplementation seems to be the route to go. however, you can obtain this especially at lower body weights

[chris_f]

I was gonna say... I have no problem eating enough protein, though I am a little smaller [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Haloed]

I don't agree with you dinabol, I get 200-240+ grams of protein a day with only 26 grams from supps or 61 grams on workout days. I don't eat alot of meat either, just a can of tuna a day.

However, if you don't have alot of time as you say or don't have alot of money then supps are probably a good option.

[dinabol]

well, that is why we are here right? I train twice a day very intensely. I degrade an enormous amount of protein. It is my opinion that supplementation with a ideal diet will keep you in positive nitrogen balance. I also believe that the RDA's for body building must be exceeded to keep the body's muscles growing. besides many food sources lack methionine. if so much as one essential amino acid is proportionally dificient protein synthesis could by hampered. Research at tuffs university found that men involved in such activities such as running, swimming, biking need are you ready for this? TWICE the protein requirements of sedentary individuals. I can only imagine what a 220 plus pound bodybuilder would need.

[jreimann]

You can get enough protein without the aid of supplements. I'm eating 325-375g of protein a day currently and using no "supplements". I'm just eating a whole lot of chicken breast. Mainly in the form of canned chicken that gives me 65g of protein a can. I have 2-4 cans daily. I also eat grilled chicken when I take time to prepare it and sometimes lunchmeat or turkey pepperoni or eggs on the weekends. I also eat a bit of cheese which is high in protein.

My primary reason for not using protein supplements is that I've found that I have issues with whey protein. If it has any milk sugars left in it my lactose intolerance cause it to bother me. Also even without that I've found that whey protein powders absorb too quickly for me and cause my blood sugar levels to spike. So basically If I'm going to just have a protein shake I need to time it just right or eat it with other food to lower the effective Glycemic Index.

I guess I could try Egg protein powders to see if they would work but eating chicken is easy enough and I have been feeling pretty good with my current diet despite a reduction of calories.

[dinabol]

I respect that. However, some things to consider:

first, Whey protein has higher amounts of branched chain amino acids than other protein products. These amino acids are not only used for protein synthesis, but are also used for oxidation during exercise.

Second, whey raises levels of glutathione. A very important antioxidant. However, only whey sources that are 90 percent or more undentured have the ability to raise glutathione levels.

and finally, for bodybuilders, perhaps whey's greatest benefit is promoting insuling growth factor 1. The release of this hormone is related to the quality of the Whey product injested. There is some evidence, although contentious, to suggest whey protein stimulates nitrogen retention.

[Haloed]

Yeah, but the protein needs of an average sedentary male are about 45 grams a day to maintain.

Bodybuilders are a different story since alot of them (pros at least) are on some form of "chemical assistance" and they are growing at a much faster rate than a normal person so they need alot more food.

Overall it really depends on the person. Some people are fine with 1 g/lb and others need more. Once you've found what works for you, stick with it.
The average person doesn't need supplements but they can help.

[Haloed]

dinabol, are you gettting your info from whey protein ads?

Edit - Oh and I have nothing against whey. I'm about to have my pre-workout shake

[dos]

You can get enough protein without the aid of supplements. I'm eating 325-375g of protein a day currently and using no "supplements". I'm just eating a whole lot of chicken breast. Mainly in the form of canned chicken that gives me 65g of protein a can. I have 2-4 cans daily. I also eat grilled chicken when I take time to prepare it and sometimes lunchmeat or turkey pepperoni or eggs on the weekends. I also eat a bit of cheese which is high in protein.

WOW! remind me to buy some stock in Foster Farms....BTW, What is your point in eating 325-375 g of protein per day?

.....unless of course you weight 325-375 lbs. that is......actually, even that would exceed your max usuable amount however...

Also, based on general protein % guidelines ( Tom Incledon rec. 15-20%) ....this would mean that 1300-1500 kcal would only be 15-20%! This would mean that you were eating in excess of 7000 kcal per day.

[dinabol]

No, no info from ads from me. just from the supplement circle.

[jreimann]

I actually weigh 350ish at 6'1". I'm all torso, my inseam is only like 29". My current daily calorie intake is between 3500-4000 cals. It's generally between 28%F 32%C 40%P - 33%F 33%C 34%P.
Bodyfat is probably 28-30% which is why I'm trying I'm dieting now. I at one point a few years ago I was 450lb and I dropped 120lbs pretty much on starvation diet. After that it took a while to fix my diet and I started lifting some. I was down to 306 doing the 52 day challenge at Men's health a bit over a year ago. I got frustrated with the weight loss so decided to focus on strength. That over the last year got me up to the 350ish area I'm at today but probably was probably 1/3-1/2 fat gain rather than just muscle. So I'm back on a strict diet trying to lose the fat without any muscle loss. Seems to be working although I've not really lost any weight but I can tell I'm losing some fat.

I'm an aspiring amateur strongman although my lifts aren't strong enough to compete in the SHW class yet. I did get second place in the Conan's Wheel event at the contest I did May 1st. I'm training 3 times a week with a focus on strongman.

Oh yeah the chicken is Kirkland Signature from Costco(Like Sam's Club) and run's $10.50 for a 6 pack.