University of Northern Colorado conditioning camp....the saga continues....
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"NO CHAMPION HAS EVER ACHIEVED HIS OR HER GOAL WITHOUT SHOWING MORE DEDICATION THAN THE NEXT PERSON; MAKING MORE SACRIFICES THAN THE NEXT PERSON; WORKING HARDER, TRAINING, AND CONDITIONING HIM / HERSELF MORE THAN THE NEXT PERSON; ENJOYING HIS / HER FINAL GOAL MORE THAN THE NEXT PERSON"
and the transfer of those movements to a valid sport specific need would be???
edit: actually, now that i think about it, i guess they could use those strength conditioning movements in order to help them get positions in the circus....
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What type of balance? Balancing on a swiss ball ball? Med ball? As soon as out athlete's start playing on those things, I'll start doing these with them.
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HCC (Hartman-Cosgrove Certified)
Director of Speed, Strength & Conditioning
College of the Canyons, CA http://www.canyons.edu/departments/pe/strength
"NO CHAMPION HAS EVER ACHIEVED HIS OR HER GOAL WITHOUT SHOWING MORE DEDICATION THAN THE NEXT PERSON; MAKING MORE SACRIFICES THAN THE NEXT PERSON; WORKING HARDER, TRAINING, AND CONDITIONING HIM / HERSELF MORE THAN THE NEXT PERSON; ENJOYING HIS / HER FINAL GOAL MORE THAN THE NEXT PERSON"
to me it looks a lil hard to keep balence on those things lifting weights and if you think balence has nothing to do with sports you dont know anything about sports.
Hahahaha Dos you don't know anything about sports or training athletes!
Hyper, you might want to follow the link in Dos' profile. He knows quite a bit about training for sport. If you do a search of these forums, unstable surface training has come up many times in the past. Bill Hartman, dos, and Alwyn Cosgrove have written a lot about the problems.
The biggest one with balance is proprioception. The carry-over in a healthy joint just isn't there. Increasing balance on a ball doesn't have a carryover to increasing balance on the floor.
Danny
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Actually, I don't find it that hard to do those types of cirque de soleil moves on the balls. Must just be my cat-like reflexes and amazing inhuman proprioception. I want a shot at Hartman's cat! (I feel like he's taunting me as he stares at me, standing on that swiss ball....)
By the way, it's 'B-a-l-a-n-c-e'.
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HCC (Hartman-Cosgrove Certified)
Director of Speed, Strength & Conditioning
College of the Canyons, CA http://www.canyons.edu/departments/pe/strength
"NO CHAMPION HAS EVER ACHIEVED HIS OR HER GOAL WITHOUT SHOWING MORE DEDICATION THAN THE NEXT PERSON; MAKING MORE SACRIFICES THAN THE NEXT PERSON; WORKING HARDER, TRAINING, AND CONDITIONING HIM / HERSELF MORE THAN THE NEXT PERSON; ENJOYING HIS / HER FINAL GOAL MORE THAN THE NEXT PERSON"
Gives new meaning to trunk stabilizing work eh Fish?
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"Trunk" stabilization, swiss ball ball (the sport of the future), balence, "you don't know anything about sports" to dos... this thread is absolutely priceless. Better than anything on TV.
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Originally posted by dos: What type of balance? Balancing on a swiss ball ball? Med ball? As soon as out athlete's start playing on those things, I'll start doing these with them.
I can see it . . . football played on balls, with players running on them to roll them around on the field . . .
I think the take away point here is that sports related balance can be achieved through alternative methods easier and safer than balancing on a swiss ball.
While it might make sense for a brief moment in theory...in practice the carryover isn't going to be nearly as practicle as other methods.
Nick,
You and I just HAVE to try that at the next retreat. That just looks so cool.
Mahler [/quote]I'll take a pic of you guys so JP can use it in is his new exercise example section. Maybe you can both stand on the ball while facing each other and holding hands too
1) Isn't that Vuduchyld on the right? How the heck is he doing?
2) I'm glad I wasn't there for this. As opposed to dos, I absolutely suck at stuff like this. He has cat-like reflexes... mine are more rhino-like. Lucky for me the ball stuff isn't recommended anyway.
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