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Old 11-17-2008, 01:21 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Unhappy Does anyone esle have training A.D.D.?

At age 33 I have been lifting for more than half my life. I still have hard time sticking with a plan and end up just winging it most of the time. Lately I have been following an Upper Lower split with 4 different days rotated M-W-F. It take 10 days to get back to the same workout and try to improve upon a lift and I just lost my patience today and did front squats again instead of deadlifts. I manged to hit a pr by 10lbs but it still didn't feel great and I wasn't too pumped after the workout, kind of drained. I like going to the gym, the atmosphere, my friends, the Milfs that are there in the daytime, etc, but I am losing enthusiasm for lifting heavy weights all the time.
I also like mountainbiking and hate to compromise between lifting and biking. Do I skip tonight's ride so I can have a better lower body workout tomorrow?...blah blah It seems like my legs almost never feel fresh.
I just took a week off about 5 weeks ago and came back feeling strong but now I'm bored. How often dop you guys rotate your templates, days of the week, full body to split etc.? Do you actually plan out mini cycles and stick to them? Is that a bird over there?

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I did. Then I finally said, "Hey, there are people smarter than me out there making programs, I'm gonna do one of them." Then I found one and I've barely deviated from Cressey's Maximum Strength at all.

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At age 33 I have been lifting for more than half my life. I still have hard time sticking with a plan and end up just winging it most of the time. Lately I have been following an Upper Lower split with 4 different days rotated M-W-F. It take 10 days to get back to the same workout and try to improve upon a lift and I just lost my patience today and did front squats again instead of deadlifts. I manged to hit a pr by 10lbs but it still didn't feel great and I wasn't too pumped after the workout, kind of drained. I like going to the gym, the atmosphere, my friends, the Milfs that are there in the daytime, etc, but I am losing enthusiasm for lifting heavy weights all the time.
I also like mountainbiking and hate to compromise between lifting and biking. Do I skip tonight's ride so I can have a better lower body workout tomorrow?...blah blah It seems like my legs almost never feel fresh.
I just took a week off about 5 weeks ago and came back feeling strong but now I'm bored. How often dop you guys rotate your templates, days of the week, full body to split etc.? Do you actually plan out mini cycles and stick to them? Is that a bird over there?

If your still here thanks for reading my insane rant.
Have ADD (off the charts level, yeah me!) and I learned that I should not fight the desire to exercise differently whenever the urge strikes. I just make sure I get 3 weight training exercieses in per week and the other 4 days I have to do something cardio-ish.

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Old 11-17-2008, 03:56 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I have ADD issues like that also. What I found helps is first you have to get a log. You need to write down all your exercises and weights. Now that you have this information you can be more free with your workouts. For example, if I know I need a horizontal press I can pick from BB/DB flat/decline/incline etc... (whatever I 'feel' like that day) and since I have all the weights written down I can always make sure to use a challenging weight. If I didn't have a detailed log it would be impossible to ever make any progress.

When it comes to other sports, I think you just need to set priorities. Why are you in the gym in the first place? For you it sounds like a way to stay in shape for the other things you like to do. If that's the case, don't let it get in the way of those other things.

For me, I'm in the gym to stay in shape for all the things I like to do. When we had nearly a month long surf session near the end of the summer I think I made it to the gym 1-2 times/week if I was lucky. Instead I was surfing 4-6 hours/day and working/sleeping the rest of the time.
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Yeah, it's funny what you mentioned about why I am in the gym. One week, I might want to increase a major lift and even have a goal weight in mind, then I'll go for a bike ride and decide that I want to get faster on my bike. I can't make up my mind half the time or for very long. I have finally started to make some headway on front squats after being the same for an eternity but that will probably lose its luster as soon as I fail to improve.
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Old 11-17-2008, 04:17 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Its natural to change your goals every so often, maybe its a little bit of ADD to be unable to decide on a weekly basis. I find it much much much easier to stick to something when im doing a program written by someone smarter than me. Like Adam, im doing EC's Max Strength and am really enjoying it and sticking with it. I do alot of stuff by Waterbury as well and usually stick to what the program says as there is quite a bit of variety.
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Old 11-17-2008, 10:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I had bad A.D.D training a while ago. Everyone on this board defiantly knows that because I have a hard time with patients, not sure whats right or wrong (who to trust and listen to) and motivated to do it. I know now how to create my own program. I should base it on weaknesses and goals. If a muscle is short, it is tight, strong, and needs to be stretched. If a muscle is flexible, it may be weaker. I tested my right and left arm/leg/side imbalances with a bunch of weight exercises in order to write up a program for myself.

It is really hard to get a program off of the computer from someone online because they have not seen you in person, do not know your strength and weaknesses and range of motion, etc. Yeah video, explanations, and pictures will help..but its always better to research yourself as much as possible and read about strengths, weaknesses, flexibility, posture, what muscle movements there are, what can create an imbalance, etc. My problem was trust and unsure what is right or wrong.

oh and yes I think I do have A.D.D (learning and memory problems). I can easily learn new things, but it has to be visually and repeated over and over to understand. It's hard to understand by words unless the words are simple ones and easy to understand (like elementry/middle school vocab). My vocabulary and reading comprehension is limited. The main problem when reading is forgetting what I read and have write down whats important before going on to the next for studying and for anything or I forget what I read right when I read the next thing.
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I had bad A.D.D training a while ago. Everyone on this board defiantly knows that because I have a hard time with patients,

You seem wicked nice Moon so Im thinking your good with patients but I didn't know your a doctor (or mabye a nurse) so that you have to talk with the patients!!

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not sure whats right or wrong (who to trust and listen to) and motivated to do it. I know now how to create my own program. I should base it on weaknesses and goals. If a muscle is short, it is tight, strong, and needs to be stretched. If a muscle is flexible, it may be weaker. I tested my right and left arm/leg/side imbalances with a bunch of weight exercises in order to write up a program for myself.

It is really hard to get a program off of the computer from someone online because they have not seen you in person, do not know your strength and weaknesses and range of motion, etc. Yeah video, explanations, and pictures will help..but its always better to research yourself as much as possible and read about strengths, weaknesses, flexibility, posture, what muscle movements there are, what can create an imbalance, etc. My problem was trust and unsure what is right or wrong.
I think your doin wicked good Moon!!! Your hardcore to the max at training!

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easily learn new things, but it has to be visually and repeated over and over to understand. It's hard to understand by words unless the words are simple ones and easy to understand (like elementry/middle school vocab). My vocabulary and reading comprehension is limited. The main problem when reading is forgetting what I read and have write down whats important before going on to the next for studying and for anything or I forget what I read right when I read the next thing.

I got a bit of the dyslexic so I know what you sort of meen! I dont forget so much but its wicked hard for me with speling.
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I am addicted to training. And every time I run myself into the gorund(once every week or two) I come up with a different plan, which in my oppinion is kinda ADDish.

Best solution: find someon to train you and make the decisions for you. OH! And pick the one that makes good decisions.
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Chuck, what does your current routine look like? Have you thought of starting a training log?
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I used to keep a log years ago and always did as I was growing up and reaching my peak in strength which was about 8 years ago. I think I'll do that and maybe even start a thread in the training log section.
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Oh gosh, i think you've hit the nail on the button.

Training Log= ADD nightmare but prob best thing i could do. Lol
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Chuck, what does your current routine look like? Have you thought of starting a training log?

I thought about a log but Im thinking that I do wicked good working on my own. Im mostly doing a lot of the squating, deadlifts, rowing, and presing like benching. Im sometimes cant go to the gym cuz my boss wants me to work more but then I have more money and its all good and OK.

How is the lifiting with you nijna? I bet your going wicked harcore to the max in a different astral plane in these tough times!! Why does Frank S say your a douche?
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You seem wicked nice Moon so Im thinking your good with patients but I didn't know your a doctor (or mabye a nurse) so that you have to talk with the patients!!



I think your doin wicked good Moon!!! Your hardcore to the max at training!




I got a bit of the dyslexic so I know what you sort of meen! I dont forget so much but its wicked hard for me with spelling.
dude, not that kind of patients as in a person. patients as in "waiting". Maybe I am not spelling the word right.
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I am addicted to training. And every time I run myself into the gorund(once every week or two) I come up with a different plan, which in my oppinion is kinda ADDish.

Best solution: find someon to train you and make the decisions for you. OH! And pick the one that makes good decisions.
how can we find the right one that makes good decisions that we trust? My problem is having trouble trusting others. How do we know who is good and who is not?
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While I tend to have training ADD too, I'm actually sticking to a base routine like glue..
Once focused, I can really appreciate doing the same movement over & over and grease the groove, but there's definitely a very profound need for change.. you can address this by changing routines.

For example you can make every training slightly different by changing reps/sets.. I specifically enjoyed wave loading very much. Within the same training there's several different exercises..

However.. I found something that seems to be written for people with training ADD

T-Nation.com | 21-Day Itch

Read it.. you'd be surprised how much is recognizable. I'm modelling my new training to it but make some essential changes. 1. do way more Oly lifts since that's my new love 2. no real strongman stuff for lack of equipment, but resume the 'odd' exercises (see sig line) once again.
Read it and try it.. it might be just the ticket for you..

Oh, and by all means do start a log. Makes you accountable.
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dude, not that kind of patients as in a person. patients as in "waiting". Maybe I am not spelling the word right.
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Espi,
Read the article, very interesting, reminds me of how I trained for a summer a few years ago and had very productive workouts and felt good. I would simple go in and do 2-3 lifts per day, three days per week with something like 8x3 or 5x5, 4x8. I didn't build up too much a fatigue and left feeling a high and wanting more. I'm definatly going to have to start a log again.
The olympic lifts are indeed fun. The barbell snatch is really tricky but feels good when you catch it just right!
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One of the things I liked about the article is that it has you train for 4 different goals. You're not going to get 'good' at 1 particular thing but you get to enjoy 4 different types of lifting.

Unlike Crossfit though which mixes even more different types of lifting in 1 workout, it shouldn't make you hurt yourself for bad form as easily.

This is another article that should make someone think twice about Crossfit :
http://www.t-nation.com/portal_inclu...4-feature.html

One thing I am looking at now is to see if doing 4 completely different workouts with also very different types of rep ranges/intensity would work better than say 3-4 workouts with the exact same exercises but then do like 1 of each in every workout.
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how can we find the right one that makes good decisions that we trust? My problem is having trouble trusting others. How do we know who is good and who is not?
Eh. The good tree produces good fruit. Question and challenge the trainer and you will question and challenge yourself.
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