seated power clean - JP Fitness Forums

BRITISHBULLDOG · 06-16-2005, 01:53 PM

would you guys say this is good form on the power clean,i found this example:

http://www.midwestbarbell.com/videos/spclean.mpg

GqArtguy · 06-16-2005, 04:00 PM

That is how you do them.

chris_f · 06-16-2005, 04:51 PM

call me crazy, but that looks more like a snatch than clean. Also, because she's seated, its a seated clean, not a power clean. [img]smile.gif[/img]

BRITISHBULLDOG · 06-17-2005, 11:23 AM

so would you all say that this is right or wrong?just i wanna add this too the program and wanna know the correct way to do it?

Newlife · 06-17-2005, 11:26 AM

Why would you not do these standing?

umass · 06-17-2005, 11:31 AM

So you don't use your legs

igunick · 06-17-2005, 11:34 AM

and why wouldn't you want to use your legs?

Newlife · 06-17-2005, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by umass:
So you don't use your legs

Yeah, thanks....WHY?

You should perform every movement standing if you don't have a ceiling issue. You activate the core more and a ton of the small muscles used to stablize your upper body. It would be foolish to do otherwise unless there is a reason that prevents standing.

Newlife · 06-17-2005, 11:37 AM

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Originally posted by igunick:
and why wouldn't you want to use your legs?

I guess if you wanted to take a perfect lift that uses the entire body, and make it a upper body isolated lift, then it would work, but it really goes against the purpose of olympic lifts.

ninja · 06-17-2005, 11:39 AM

That's what I thought when I read the title of the thread.

Why the hell would you want to clean sitting down?

umass · 06-17-2005, 11:45 AM

I not saying I do it or like it because I don't, but it is a move that powerlifters employ on upperbody days. I guess the reasoning in the isolation would be that
a. the legs need the rest
b. it forces the upper body to work harder as it gets no help
but like I said these are just my guesses and heck I'd do them standing too

Axis · 06-17-2005, 12:05 PM

Seated cleans are typically used as an assistance exercise in powerlifting. Training for powerlifting (specifically Westside, but other styles as well) is all about finding where the weak points are in the three competitive lifts, and strengthening those weak points. If you strengthen the weak point, the lift as a whole will be stronger.

Seated dumbbell cleans specifically target the upper back and posterior delts. They aren't meant to replace, or even simulate Olympic cleans.

GqArtguy · 06-17-2005, 01:37 PM

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Originally posted by BRITISHBULLDOG:
so would you all say that this is right or wrong?just i wanna add this too the program and wanna know the correct way to do it?

Did you not read my post?

And everyone listen to Axis, he is correct.

Newlife · 06-17-2005, 01:52 PM

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Originally posted by GqArtguy:

quote:
Originally posted by BRITISHBULLDOG:
so would you all say that this is right or wrong?just i wanna add this too the program and wanna know the correct way to do it?

Did you not read my post?

And everyone listen to Axis, he is correct. [/quote]Oh, Okay.

I love reading shit like this. It really makes me laugh....

GqArtguy · 06-17-2005, 01:56 PM

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Originally posted by Newlife:

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Originally posted by GqArtguy:

quote:
Originally posted by BRITISHBULLDOG:
so would you all say that this is right or wrong?just i wanna add this too the program and wanna know the correct way to do it?

Did you not read my post?

And everyone listen to Axis, he is correct. [/quote]Oh, Okay.

I love reading shit like this. It really makes me laugh.... [/quote]Laugh away. And if you want to laugh at Dave Tate and Louie Simmons (from where Axis is deriving that statement) then feel free.

Newlife · 06-17-2005, 02:00 PM

Yeah, I'm sure BB was asking about adding this to his program for ASSISTANCE work. I assume if someone is asking how to do a movement for the first time, and also knowing BB's knowledge of program building, that he isn't doing STANDING cleans and ALSO doing them SEATED for assistance. That is why I laugh.

And Name dropping does nothing for me. I care could less what Dave or Louie do in the gym. If I did, I would also shot vitamine S into my ass each day...

So, HAHAAHAHA.

GqArtguy · 06-17-2005, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by Newlife:
Yeah, I'm sure BB was asking about adding this to his program for ASSISTANCE work. I assume if someone is asking how to do a movement for the first time, and also knowing BB's knowledge of program building, that he isn't doing STANDING cleans and ALSO doing them SEATED for assistance. That is why I laugh.

Im pretty sure that Axis was addressing the confusion from the video. Im the only one who told him the form was good in that vid, but it seems like he skipped it.

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And Name dropping does nothing for me. I care could less what Dave or Louie do in the gym. If I did, I would also shot vitamine S into my ass each day...

So, HAHAAHAHA.

Im not name dropping, Im just stating the source of where he's getting his info. But go ahead and laugh, your lack of contribution to this thread is amusing.