I know this has been asked before, but it was never an issue for me until now...so Im gonna ask again
Is it ok to use the alternate (I think thats what its called) grip for romanian deads? What I mean is one hand over and one under. I was doing both overhand, but I can finish my set because my fingers (grip) gives out, which sucks because I could do the actual movement for another rep or two. When I use the alternate grip, I can go for the full amount for each set.
Then certainly use the alternated grip! I think the last discussion leaned towards keeping it overhand for the lighter-medium sets, then switching to alternated for the heavier ones. Most people seem to think it's best to switch which hand is over and under (every other set or so), so as to avoid imbalances in back development.
I dont like doing mixed grip for reps, esp on something thats not maximal. I used to be frustrated with deads and stuff but if you build up your grip (aka weak point) the rest of it will come.
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when I first started I couldn't hold 135 for ten reps. I went to a mixed grip until my hands could catch up to the progress the rest of my body was making. I never wanted to use straps.
Now at twice that, I will still go to a mixed grip if my reps are over five or so.
While there are two issues here--holding a very heavy bar for a very short period of time and holding a somewhat heavy bar for a slightly longer period of time--if the grip helps me make the lift, I don't think it so bad.
when I first started I couldn't hold 135 for ten reps. I went to a mixed grip until my hands could catch up to the progress the rest of my body was making. I never wanted to use straps.
Now at twice that, I will still go to a mixed grip if my reps are over five or so.
While there are two issues here--holding a very heavy bar for a very short period of time and holding a somewhat heavy bar for a slightly longer period of time--if the grip helps me make the lift, I don't think it so bad.
david
I dont like the idea of a mixed grip for reps because of balance issues in the back. If you cant hold on to it without resorting to something that should be used for heavy sets then you should bring up the weak link.
I could barely hold 135 for reps either, so what I did was focus on holds (so that I could do sets with no problem) and maximal grip work so that I can hold on to heavy loads and kept pulling. I remember struggling to do towel chins for a few reps but I got better at them and grip is never an issue now with the deadlift. I think that people should focus on their weaknesses and hit those hard so that it can catch up.
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"The strongest steel goes through the hottest fires."-Anonymous
"When you begin to believe nothing is heavy, all weights become light." -Rossbow
"Just remember, somewhere there is a little Chinese girl warming up with your max."-Jim Convroy
"It's a round hole, dammit. Everyone fits."--Anonymous Mod at Strengthmill
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"The strongest steel goes through the hottest fires."-Anonymous
"When you begin to believe nothing is heavy, all weights become light." -Rossbow
"Just remember, somewhere there is a little Chinese girl warming up with your max."-Jim Convroy
"It's a round hole, dammit. Everyone fits."--Anonymous Mod at Strengthmill
when I first started I couldn't hold 135 for ten reps. I went to a mixed grip until my hands could catch up to the progress the rest of my body was making. I never wanted to use straps.
Now at twice that, I will still go to a mixed grip if my reps are over five or so.
While there are two issues here--holding a very heavy bar for a very short period of time and holding a somewhat heavy bar for a slightly longer period of time--if the grip helps me make the lift, I don't think it so bad.
david
I dont like the idea of a mixed grip for reps because of balance issues in the back. If you cant hold on to it without resorting to something that should be used for heavy sets then you should bring up the weak link.
I could barely hold 135 for reps either, so what I did was focus on holds (so that I could do sets with no problem) and maximal grip work so that I can hold on to heavy loads and kept pulling. I remember struggling to do towel chins for a few reps but I got better at them and grip is never an issue now with the deadlift. I think that people should focus on their weaknesses and hit those hard so that it can catch up. [/quote]Well said. I'll be redoubling my efforts on grip work.
do you guys have any suggestions to improve grip strength, without having a workout specifically for grip strength?
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[/qb][/quote]I dont like the idea of a mixed grip for reps because of balance issues in the back. If you cant hold on to it without resorting to something that should be used for heavy sets then you should bring up the weak link.
I could barely hold 135 for reps either, so what I did was focus on holds (so that I could do sets with no problem) and maximal grip work so that I can hold on to heavy loads and kept pulling. I remember struggling to do towel chins for a few reps but I got better at them and grip is never an issue now with the deadlift. I think that people should focus on their weaknesses and hit those hard so that it can catch up. [/QB][/quote]
Gq,
I can't disagree with you (nor do I wish to), as you bring up a good point and I never argue with anyone who can do towel chins.
But I'm curious as to what you see as the balance issue in the back. My arms are straight and while I may get a slightly different tension on what seems to be the long head of the triceps and the delts with the supinated hand, each side of my back seems equally under tension.
Of course, to ensure there are no balance issues I switch hand position on each set.
In principle, I agree with training the weakness. In the protection dog work that I do we have a saying, "attack the problem first." Too many people train around their difficult issues. However, I there is somthing to be said about the other side, paraphrased here from Goodfellas, "Restaurant burnt down? Wife left with the kids? F#ck you, pay me."
I think it necessary at times to look at your complaining body part and say, "F#ck you, pay me."
Bottom line, my girly hands got stronger because they had to.
Have a good one.
david
P.S. All of the answers to life's great questions can usually be found in dog training or mob movies.
Im doing 5x5 with about 195lbs,,,I can do the first 2-3 sets fine..but the last 2 on the 2nd or 3rd rep,,,my grip goes, and it sucks because I know I can lift more, I guess I will do a little of both, and switch the hands so there are no imbalances.
Whats weird is, I can bust out chins, no problem..I use a 30lb dumbbell between my legs and do chins and my grip is fine..but on deads, I struggle.
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