Interesting, I hadnt read that one. I found a few others on there that are also great for back exercises, but the one I'm thinking of went more into why pullups/chinups are better than pulldowns. One of those conversations where someone wont believe me he's convinced chinups are for biceps and hardly work the back at all and that the lat pulldown machine is the best answer for back growth.
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Bj... have your friend do 3 or 4 sets of chins and pullups, then ask him how his back feels the next day. I did 5 sets of 10 last night, and my entire back is still wiped out...
Because of the hand position, chins do tend to work the bicep quite a bit, but the back still takes the brunt of the work... assuming you go all the way down.
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yeh totaly duff beer. Owie that sternum chin up looks like a recipe for a bad back if not done right.
To really work the lats on chin ups really concentrate on employing them for the first stage of lifting and not the arms you make huge gains doing it that way. Also slow the speed down so you get the most out of it, am a true believer in slow speed after being converted a year ago, 5/5 cadence is great on chins but tos hard to squeeze more than one set out at that speed.
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I've always focused the first few chinups in my set like the sternum chin ups-lean back and use the lats more. Once those start to fail, I'll knock out a couple more reps using more of my arms and shoulders. You can really feel those sternum chin-ups. [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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Yeah, they're what I use, but by the end of my fifth set I'm generally resorting to just trying to get my chin over the bar . Rather than add weight I'm trying to work on getting the form right and full ROM (its a hell of a lot harder if you let your arms go straight [img]tongue.gif[/img] ).
Ahh, well if nothing else the phrase "lat lines of a cigarette" will stick with me. Would have enjoyed reading the article again. Maybe when we get search back, I'm sure it was quoted here at one point.
Hey, that line stuck with me too, so I knew exactly the article you were talking about when I read this. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Actually, it was:
I already can hear the people say, "I will just substitute pulldowns instead of chins". Sure go ahead but you will not get the same results, and you will still have the lat spread of a cigarette.
It's an article by Charles Poliquin on the bodybuilding.com website:
Darkmind - I like everything but the behind the neck pulls. Just not a natural 'pull' and I'd assume they's put weird pressure on your rotator cuffs. I'm sure one of the pro's can explain it better than I can. I've tried them in the past, and didn't like them at all.
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he's convinced chinups are for biceps and hardly work the back at all and that the lat pulldown machine is the best answer for back growth.
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