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Old 11-06-2004, 07:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I was looking at an article by J. Beradi" The Winning Fomula Part 2". He refers to "pulling movements", "pushing movements", "quad dominant", and "hip dominant" exercises. I know the bench press is a pushing movement, bent over row is a pulling movement, and the squat is quad dominant(I think). Could anyone out there suggest other multi-joint exercises that fall into these categories, especially "hip dominant". I would really like to get some outside input. Thanks
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Old 11-06-2004, 10:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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you have basic idea.

hip dominant would be deadlift, romanian deadlift, stiff legged deadlift, hamstring curl.

here's a whole article on the topic:
http://www.mensfitness.com/fitness/41
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Old 11-06-2004, 12:35 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The hamsting curl isnt a hip dominant movement.
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Old 11-06-2004, 01:04 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks alot for the article. It helps alot
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Old 11-06-2004, 04:06 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The pushing and pulling is split into vertical push/pulls and horizontal push/pulls.

Vertical Push:
Barbell/dumbbell shoulder presses, upright rows, any type of shoulder raises

Vertical Pull:
Pullups/Chinups, lat pulldowns, pullovers
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one thing i dont understand is the dip. ive read that article at mensfitness before and i know it lists the dip as a horizontal movement. i never understood why since while doing the dip you are moving your body up and down, which would make it a vertical movement. then i read the home workout bible by lou and mike m. and it lists the dip as a vertical movement. anyone know which one is right?
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Old 11-06-2004, 05:16 PM   #7 (permalink)
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one thing i dont understand is the dip. ive read that article at mensfitness before and i know it lists the dip as a horizontal movement. i never understood why since while doing the dip you are moving your body up and down, which would make it a vertical movement. then i read the home workout bible by lou and mike m. and it lists the dip as a vertical movement. anyone know which one is right?
Because when you dip youre leaning foward and your pecs arent in fact facing foward but downward, esp if youre going deep. If the pecs are in the same line as the press then it is acting in the same way as if your body static (ie in a bench press).
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"one thing i dont understand is the dip. ive read that article at mensfitness before and i know it lists the dip as a horizontal movement. i never understood why since while doing the dip you are moving your body up and down, which would make it a vertical movement. then i read the home workout bible by lou and mike m. and it lists the dip as a vertical movement. anyone know which one is right?"

I've always thought it was horizontal. Although your body is moving vertically, your push is more horizontal than verticle. Of course, I could be wrong... [img]smile.gif[/img]
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The hamsting curl isnt a hip dominant movement.
The hamstring curl is a hip dominant movement.

"6. Hip-dominants: Exercises in which your hamstrings and glutes are the primary movers
Exercises: Any type of deadlift or leg curl"

quoted from the men's fitness article referenced above.
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The hamsting curl isnt a hip dominant movement.
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The hamstring curl is a hip dominant movement.

"6. Hip-dominants: Exercises in which your hamstrings and glutes are the primary movers
Exercises: Any type of deadlift or leg curl"

quoted from the men's fitness article referenced above.
[/quote]It was probably put in there because most hip dominant movements (ie deadlifts, pullthroughs, etc.) are glute and hamstring dominant. If you were to do a leg curl youd do it on this day, but the leg curl is not a hip dominant movement, in fact your sitting down and your hips are doing anything.
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Old 11-07-2004, 12:23 PM   #11 (permalink)
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GQ is correct in that on a technical level the leg curl is not hip dominant because all the movement is at the knee. But the reason why MF and most other articles put it in that category is because of the muscles it works and thats where it fits best in a program. Hip-Dominant is just the name for the clasification to make it easier to describe.

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