push press vs. military press

[ark]

I currenlty have military press in my routine, but find I'm not able to up my weight unless I do a push press.

Which would be best to incorporate in my routine... the military press or push press?? Or does it matter?

[Alcoholiday]

i like push presses b/c you can use more weight.

[Lost Dog]

Originally Posted by ark

I currenlty have military press in my routine, but find I'm not able to up my weight unless I do a push press.

Which would be best to incorporate in my routine... the military press or push press?? Or does it matter?

What's your routine? Different methods might work better with your program.

If you are doing a 3x8 with 75lbs and increase to 80, do as many military presses as you can, then finish the set with push presses. Over time, try to increase the number of military presses until you no longer have to push press it up there.

You could also switch to lower reps and more sets. 3x8 with 75, down to 4x6 with 80, then work to get back up to sets of 8.

These might conflict with how your routine is laid out, though.

[Lost Dog]

Originally Posted by Alcoholiday

i like push presses b/c you can use more weight.

You should LOVE push jerks, then.

[Alcoholiday]

Originally Posted by Lost Dog

You should LOVE push jerks, then.

yep!!!

[dmw]

Originally Posted by Alcoholiday

i like push presses b/c you can use more weight.

Ha. Me too.

[Frank.S]

I like reverse band push press rack lockouts. you can use alot more weight

[Simon C]

Originally Posted by Frank.S

I like reverse band push press rack lockouts. you can use alot more weight

Shit Frank, you are too funny

And what exactly is the difference between push press, and a push jerk?

[Alcoholiday]

Originally Posted by Frank.S

I like reverse band push press rack lockouts. you can use alot more weight

i like to add weight releasers to it, and put on a bench shirt.

[Alcoholiday]

Originally Posted by Simon C

Shit Frank, you are too funny

And what exactly is the difference between push press, and a push jerk?

push press= 1 knee bend
push jerk= 2 knee bends. the two knee bends is basically one to get the bar moving, and the second is to dip under the weight and catch it with locked arms.

push press:


jerk:

[Simon C]

Originally Posted by Alcoholiday

i like to add weight releasers to it, and put on a bench shirt.

I like to add 3 spotters, to help me go a bit heavier. Also elbow sleeves and wrist wraps help me really get the full benefit of heavy weights.

[Simon C]

Originally Posted by Alcoholiday

push press= 1 knee bend
push jerk= 2 knee bends. the two knee bends is basically one to get the bar moving, and the second is to dip under the weight and catch it with locked arms.

push press:


jerk:

Thanks, I thought it was something like that.

I've been doing fairy strict OH rpessing, I might switch to some Push Presses or push jerks soon, not sure which one haha, but I guess push jerks, so i can use more weight.

Along with all the tools me mentioned earlier ofcourse

[dmw]

I like to just lie about the amount of weight I can use when I'm on the internet, then you don't need knee bend, spotters, bands, or anything.

[Frank.S]

Originally Posted by Simon C

I like to add 3 spotters, to help me go a bit heavier. Also elbow sleeves and wrist wraps help me really get the full benefit of heavy weights.

you have taken it to far, i love elbow sleeves

[Simon C]

I mean these ones:

Inzer Advance Designs: Elbow Sleeves XT-The high tech Elbow Sleeves XT have multiple applications to enhance the performance and pleasure of competing and training for any athlete.

to help me use more weightzzzz....

Not the non-supportive joint warming ones, they suck too hard, no support!!!

[Frank.S]

Ill just wrap 3m stangulators over my elbows.

[Simon C]

You ain't got nothing until you chuck elbows sleeves ontop of those.

[eastcoastsurfer]

You guy still using elbow sleeves? My arms have gotten so big from all the weights I started using knee sleeves over my elbows :p

[ark]

Okay... I get the *feeling* you guys are making fun of my "more weights" statement..... but whatever

50 lbs is difficult for me when doing a military press. If I do the push-press, it's not. (ps.. I'm female, so 50lbs isn't too terrible for someone who weighs 118lbs)

[dmw]

Originally Posted by ark

Okay... I get the *feeling* you guys are making fun of my "more weights" statement..... but whatever

50 lbs is difficult for me when doing a military press. If I do the push-press, it's not.

We're not making fun of you (at least I'm not), we're making fun of ourselves for always looking for a way to increase the weight on the bar.

[eastcoastsurfer]

Originally Posted by ark

Okay... I get the *feeling* you guys are making fun of my "more weights" statement..... but whatever

50 lbs is difficult for me when doing a military press. If I do the push-press, it's not. (ps.. I'm female, so 50lbs isn't too terrible for someone who weighs 118lbs)

Nah, it's all fun

Have you tried doing DB military presses for awhile? They might get you over that 50lb hump.

[ark]

Originally Posted by eastcoastsurfer

Nah, it's all fun

Have you tried doing DB military presses for awhile? They might get you over that 50lb hump.

yes, but they seem to be more difficult for me and my neck seems to bother me afterwards. I use them on my light vertical day and I feel fine.

[ark]

Originally Posted by dmw

We're not making fun of you (at least I'm not), we're making fun of ourselves for always looking for a way to increase the weight on the bar.

well go read my next question... you might be after reading it

I do appreciate everyone's input. I usually ask my questions here because people know their stuff.

[eastcoastsurfer]

Originally Posted by ark

yes, but they seem to be more difficult for me and my neck seems to bother me afterwards. I use them on my light vertical day and I feel fine.

More difficult is fine. That's sorta the point. If your neck hurts afterwards it probably means your form is breaking down because you're using too much weight. Try backing the down the weight and keeping strict form and slowly adding weight back as you build back up using the new strict form.

[chris_f]

Originally Posted by Lost Dog

You should LOVE push jerks, then.

Is that what you call it when someone pushes you?